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post #631 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Randy Schmidt View Post


I have the Epson 8700UB and wanted to know if you saw a substantial picture quality difference between your 8500 and your new 5030UB. Thanks for you comments.

8500 and 5030UB will have quite a bit of difference in picture quality. Its quite noticeable. To me it is at least. And it is brighter too of course.

post #632 of 2935

Amazon confirmed that my 5030 will be deliverd on Tuesday...very excited!  Any idea how many 5020's Epson produced and what kind of production capacity Epson has for the 5030?  Supply seems to be very tight currently. 

post #633 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Mavric68 View Post

Amazon confirmed that my 5030 will be deliverd on Tuesday...very excited!  Any idea how many 5020's Epson produced and what kind of production capacity Epson has for the 5030?  Supply seems to be very tight currently. 
It's brand new on the market, it'll take a while before there's lots of inventory. It's nothing to worry about.
post #634 of 2935
Amazon Japan suddenly had the 5030ube in stock at a lower price than the national average, so I ordered one! It'll arrive on Monday!

I sure hope I have better luck with it than my 5020ube.
post #635 of 2935
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Originally Posted by whokilledkaji View Post

Amazon Japan suddenly had the 5030ube in stock at a lower price than the national average, so I ordered one! It'll arrive on Monday!

I sure hope I have better luck with it than my 5020ube.

I heard that supposedly some of the NON American Epson 5030UB/5020UB Projectors were lacking THX mode. Did you check to see if that was the case with the one you ordered from Japan?

post #636 of 2935
The European Version does not feature THX-Mode but it is also called the EH-TW9200. Maybe the lack of THX is bound to the name?
post #637 of 2935
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Originally Posted by KUV1977 View Post

The European Version does not feature THX-Mode but it is also called the EH-TW9200. Maybe the lack of THX is bound to the name?


I just looked it up in the Japanese Amazon website and yes it appears to be bound by name. So I think the Japanese 5030UB or EH-TW9200. Whichever you prefer to call it. Will lack THX mode in Japan. They call it EH-TW9200 in Japan as well. Im not 100 percent certain it lacks THX mode but I'd be willing to bet money that the version Mrajoel45 from The Japanese Amazon website will NOT have THX mode. But like I said. I could be wrong. Priced at 2771.29 US Dollars (Rough Estimate) It will lack THX mode but will come with the wireless receiver. So for 170ish dollars more. They get wireless. They get wireless mode for less money then we do. For us wireless costs $300.00 More. So i guess it has its trade off. Sort of. Personally I think i would prefer to have THX mode but having wireless would also be nice to have. 

post #638 of 2935
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Originally Posted by beasttopray View Post


I just looked it up in the Japanese Amazon website and yes it appears to be bound by name. So I think the Japanese 5030UB or EH-TW9200. Whichever you prefer to call it. Will lack THX mode in Japan. They call it EH-TW9200 in Japan as well. Im not 100 percent certain it lacks THX mode but I'd be willing to bet money that the version Mrajoel45 from The Japanese Amazon website will NOT have THX mode. But like I said. I could be wrong. Priced at 2771.29 US Dollars (Rough Estimate) It will lack THX mode but will come with the wireless receiver. So for 170ish dollars more. They get wireless. They get wireless mode for less money then we do. For us wireless costs $300.00 More. So i guess it has its trade off. Sort of. Personally I think i would prefer to have THX mode but having wireless would also be nice to have. 

Actually, the 5030ube is the EH-TW8200W in Japan.
You guys are right though! It looks like here is no THX mode... I'm pretty sure the 5020ube (TW-8100W) had it though...
post #639 of 2935
The wireless model costs 2999€ ($4140) here and the version without costs 2699€ ($3726). Still I don't get THX. Not really a trade-off for me. They always just take the American number and swap the currency-sign.
post #640 of 2935
I upgraded to the 5030 from a Panasonic AE4000. Some thoughts after playing with the Epson for a couple days:

  • The Epson has much better black levels/contrast. Didn't realize what I was missing on the Panasonic until setting this up. I'm not someone who would notice minor improvements, so I suspect there's a pretty big gap here.

  • Panel alignment is a bit of an issue on the Epson; was flawless on the Panasonic. (E.g., On the Epson, white text has tinges of different colors at the edges.) Out of the box, the issue was pretty noticeable and could be seen at normal viewing distances. The Epson's panel alignment tool helped a lot but alignment is still not perfect (though now you can only tell that by looking very closely at the screen).

  • The biggest thing I miss about the Panasonic is their smoothscreen/anti-SDE tech. I sit relatively close to the screen - about 10 feet from a 150 inch screen - and the Epson has some screen door effect that I've never seen before (all of my prior projectors have been Panasonics). If you stand in front of the screen, the SDE grid is very obvious. At my sitting distance, when wearing glasses that give me better-than-20/20 vision, the SDE is also pretty much constantly noticeable. Fortunately, those glasses give me a headache and I never wear them when watching. I usually watch either without glasses or with a pair that has a lighter prescription - in which case I very rarely notice SDE.

  • Obviously the biggest difference is 3D, which the Panasonic didn't have. The Epson's 3D works very well and looks great (FI set to low, SR at 3), although this is my first 3D projector so I can't compare it to others. The only issue I've seen is occasional crosstalk but (at Medium 3D Brightness) it's pretty rare; for example, in Dredd 3D, there were probably 2-3 scenes, totaling ~20-30 seconds over the entire movie, where I noticed crosstalk (typically a person's face for some reason), and even then it was fairly mild. Rest of the movie looked flawless.
post #641 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Capitol K View Post

I upgraded to the 5030 from a Panasonic AE4000. Some thoughts after playing with the Epson for a couple


[*] The biggest thing I miss about the Panasonic is their smoothscreen/anti-SDE tech. I sit relatively close to the screen - about 10 feet from a 150 inch screen - and the Epson has some screen door effect that I've never seen before (all of my prior projectors have been Panasonics). If you stand in front of the screen, the SDE grid is very obvious. At my sitting distance, when wearing glasses that give me better-than-20/20 vision, the SDE is also pretty much constantly noticeable. Fortunately, those glasses give me a headache and I never wear them when watching. I usually watch either without glasses or with a pair that has a lighter prescription - in which case I very rarely notice SDE.

This is very disconcerting coming from another Panasonic owner. Anyone else have comments regarding this?
post #642 of 2935
Most folks are not going to sit 10 feet from a 150" - that's very close. I sit ~ 14 feet from my 142" 16:9 which is ~ 1.25 screen widths and didn't have an issue with SDE on the 5030. My vision is excellent.

it might be a little shocking going from one of the softest appearing projectors to something that is not. I calibrated several Panasonic 8000's and was surprised how soft these look in comparison to every other projector we used in the shootout thread. Some try to compare smooth-screen to JVC's e-shift but it's definitely not the same. You just end up with an image that generally looks soft, especially on a fairly large screen.

it is true that the Epson's have the widest pixel spacing of the current models so I can see how sitting 10 feet from a 150" could be an issue. I don't think it will be a problem for the vast majority of setups.
post #643 of 2935
I don't recall anyone bringing this up from Cine4home's preview of the 9200/5030, but it's an important topic if it ends up being true across all the samples.


"2.5 Focus

Another "promise" of the manufacturer regarding the TW9200 is the increased optical clarity that we examine below.

Not a rare criticism over the past Epson Projectors concerned the optical sharpness. A generous scattering series, and especially the use of the Lens Shiftes, ensured not uncommon for fringing and blurring of pixel edges. This criticism engineers have obviously taken very seriously and revised the light path at crucial points. But you can say a lot, is critical of what actually "arrives" on the screen. We have looked closely: "


I've only seen 1 sample so far, but the pixel definition and overall sharpness of this particular 5030 was definitely better than the various 5020 and 6020's I calibrated over the last year. There was an obvious reduction in the blurring of the pixel edges when viewed close up.

Maybe JC's is a golden sample but I was overall impressed with this projector, especially at the street price. With the addition of FI, the 3D is better than the HW50 and the X55/RS4810.
post #644 of 2935
I received my 5030 today and I like what I'm seeing projected onto a 120" 1.3 gain, AT screen. 3D is excellent! My only issue is in 2D, I don't see a difference with the iris engaged. Admittedly my room is not a man cave and blacks do go up a notch at night. Will I need to wait until I can see the projector at it's absolute best operating circumstances to see improvement offered by the iris?
post #645 of 2935
Got a chance to try out 2D. Watched some football on Living Room setting with some ambient light turned on. Very nice. Noticeable step up from the 8500, and that was already top notch. Gotta tweak the color a bit, but I'm gonna try to get some hours on the bulb first.

Watched Tangled3D with the kids tonight. A little crosstalk at the beginning for some reason, a little tough during dark scenes, but over all an incredible experience. Really cool. Turned up the FI since it was animation, that plus the 3D made it incredibly lifelike.

The only major downside I've found is that if you run the bulb on the higher setting (don't know why the name changes from one mode to the next) the fan is unbearably loud. I could watch my 8500 in THX mode with the normal bulb and you would only hear the fan during quiet scenes. On this bad boy it's like running a hair dryer. Good thing it's so much brighter. Hope the 4000 hour bulb is for real, because once I can't use Eco I'm in trouble.
post #646 of 2935
One more thing. The iris is quieter compared to my 8500
post #647 of 2935
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Originally Posted by rprice54 View Post

Got a chance to try out 2D. Watched some football on Living Room setting with some ambient light turned on. Very nice. Noticeable step up from the 8500, and that was already top notch. Gotta tweak the color a bit, but I'm gonna try to get some hours on the bulb first.

Watched Tangled3D with the kids tonight. A little crosstalk at the beginning for some reason, a little tough during dark scenes, but over all an incredible experience. Really cool. Turned up the FI since it was animation, that plus the 3D made it incredibly lifelike.

The only major downside I've found is that if you run the bulb on the higher setting (don't know why the name changes from one mode to the next) the fan is unbearably loud. I could watch my 8500 in THX mode with the normal bulb and you would only hear the fan during quiet scenes. On this bad boy it's like running a hair dryer. Good thing it's so much brighter. Hope the 4000 hour bulb is for real, because once I can't use Eco I'm in trouble.

If you run it in THX mode and in Eco mode you will most likely get the best amount of time from the bulb. Im not sure if 3D puts more of a strain then 2D mode. But I would imagine so. I try to avoid dynamic mode unless I really need to use it.

post #648 of 2935
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Originally Posted by rprice54 View Post

Got a chance to try out 2D. Watched some football on Living Room setting with some ambient light turned on. Very nice. Noticeable step up from the 8500, and that was already top notch. Gotta tweak the color a bit, but I'm gonna try to get some hours on the bulb first.

Watched Tangled3D with the kids tonight. A little crosstalk at the beginning for some reason, a little tough during dark scenes, but over all an incredible experience. Really cool. Turned up the FI since it was animation, that plus the 3D made it incredibly lifelike.

The only major downside I've found is that if you run the bulb on the higher setting (don't know why the name changes from one mode to the next) the fan is unbearably loud. I could watch my 8500 in THX mode with the normal bulb and you would only hear the fan during quiet scenes. On this bad boy it's like running a hair dryer. Good thing it's so much brighter. Hope the 4000 hour bulb is for real, because once I can't use Eco I'm in trouble.

You're thinking you'll get 4000 hours out of the bulb running ECO mode with acceptable lumen output? Highly doubtful!! I have a 6010 switched from ECO to Normal mode at about 1500 hours, am now at about 2500 hours and still looks good but I know it isn't anywhere as bright as it's capable of, likely will change bulb soon.
post #649 of 2935
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Originally Posted by gpmbc View Post

I received my 5030 today and I like what I'm seeing projected onto a 120" 1.3 gain, AT screen. 3D is excellent! My only issue is in 2D, I don't see a difference with the iris engaged. Admittedly my room is not a man cave and blacks do go up a notch at night. Will I need to wait until I can see the projector at it's absolute best operating circumstances to see improvement offered by the iris?

You may want to calibrate your projector. 

post #650 of 2935
I watched it last night and still no difference in operation with the iris from off to high. I'm coming from an Epson 8350 and although the quality of the pic is better with the 5030 I'm not seeing the ultra black that I expected. Calibrated or not, it should still be a huge improvement in terms of black level over the 8350 and from what read the dynamic iris is a huge contributor to that.
post #651 of 2935
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Originally Posted by WynsWrld98 View Post

You're thinking you'll get 4000 hours out of the bulb running ECO mode with acceptable lumen output? Highly doubtful!! I have a 6010 switched from ECO to Normal mode at about 1500 hours, am now at about 2500 hours and still looks good but I know it isn't anywhere as bright as it's capable of, likely will change bulb soon.

I had to switch to high lamp at 1700 hours on my 6010, and it was flickering (near death) at 1900. I had to replace it. I suspect that's much more common than a 4000 hour lamp life.
post #652 of 2935
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Originally Posted by gpmbc View Post

I watched it last night and still no difference in operation with the iris from off to high. I'm coming from an Epson 8350 and although the quality of the pic is better with the 5030 I'm not seeing the ultra black that I expected. Calibrated or not, it should still be a huge improvement in terms of black level over the 8350 and from what read the dynamic iris is a huge contributor to that.

Sounds like your brightness level is too high, so blacks look grey. At the very minimum you need to set brightness and contrast using a calibration disk.
post #653 of 2935
Lot's of good information so far in this thread. Thank you to those offering their knowledge or ideas on the new 5030Ub machine.
Art from Projector Reviews has been stating his review of the 5030ub would be available on his site, on the 25th. That was bumped to the 27th, along with the review from Projector Central. Anyone have an idea when either of those reviews will be available.
post #654 of 2935
The review from Projectorcentral will be here end of this month, so latest thursday!

One question, when watching 3D am I forced to the high setting? Of the lamp I mean. I'm sure I read that somewhere...

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Originally Posted by smeeze View Post

Lot's of good information so far in this thread. Thank you to those offering their knowledge or ideas on the new 5030Ub machine.
Art from Projector Reviews has been stating his review of the 5030ub would be available on his site, on the 25th. That was bumped to the 27th, along with the review from Projector Central. Anyone have an idea when either of those reviews will be available.
post #655 of 2935

Does anyone know how many amps the 5030 pulls?

post #656 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Mavric68 View Post
 

Does anyone know how many amps the 5030 pulls?

Should be the same as the 5020. At least I would think so. Im not sure what you mean by amps exactly. But it draws about 350 Watts on normal and around 280 in Eco mode give or take. 100 to 240 VAC. IDK if this answers your question. Probably not. But figured I would try.

post #657 of 2935
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Originally Posted by Mavric68 View Post
 

Does anyone know how many amps the 5030 pulls?

 

~3 amps. 350 W / 120 V = 2.92 A

post #658 of 2935

Thank you both!

post #659 of 2935
Ordered my 5030UB at Best Buy on Friday. They still don't have the bugs worked out on their inventory system (the 5030UB SKU still pulls up info and price for the 5020UB). However, I had a great sales guy who did some serious digging and finally located the 5030. It should be delivered to my house by the end of the week.

This will be my second projector; it's an upgrade from an Epson 8100 that I've been using for the past four years . Aside from the terrible bulb problems (I think I'm on the fifth bulb), I've really enjoyed the 8100. Needless to say, I'm very excited about getting the 5030. I'm a fan of 3D, and I'm hoping for the best!

FYI: I'm using an Oppo BDP-103, an Onkyo TX-SR607 AVR, Klipsch Reference Series speakers and an Elite EZ frame 1.1 gain 120-inch screen.
post #660 of 2935
Any moment, the delivery guy is going to ring my door!
I wish he'd hurry!
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