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Originally Posted by whokilledkaji View Post

Any moment, the delivery guy is going to ring my door!
I wish he'd hurry!

Great let us know what you think of it...biggrin.gif
post #662 of 2961
Just FYI...

My Magnolia rep said "the warehouse in Oklahoma" is getting 48 5030ub Oct 29th.
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I've heard in Australia, the distributor is going to need to sell out of the old models before the new models come into stock! I've heard they had around 100 1-2 weeks ago. :/
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To all you happy owners of the 5030ub!

One question, when watching 3D am I forced to the high setting? Of the lamp I mean. I'm sure I read that somewhere... eek.gif
post #665 of 2961
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Originally Posted by Vanderluck View Post

To all you happy owners of the 5030ub!

One question, when watching 3D am I forced to the high setting? Of the lamp I mean. I'm sure I read that somewhere... eek.gif

Not that im aware of? It should be the same as the 5020UB in that  aspect. 5020UB you could set it in high or low. Whatever you wanted. I dont see why they would add more then 1 mode if they forced you to choose one. Makes no sense. I never had this issue in my 5020UB. It worked in any mode i chose.

post #666 of 2961
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Originally Posted by FATHERFORD View Post

Just FYI...

My Magnolia rep said "the warehouse in Oklahoma" is getting 48 5030ub Oct 29th.

 

Thats pretty nice! But I'm assuming this warehouse is only for Oklahoma Best Buy Stores?? Do you stay in Oklahoma? I stay in Los Angeles California and my MDC Rep (Magnolia Design Center) hasnt heard a word or gotten any info yet. Ive been waiting for over 3 weeks for my 5030UB. I hope that there is other warehouses getting them as well. I think there is a Best Buy warehouse somewhere in South Calilfornia. 48 PJ's seems very little for one whole State. Some people are going to end up having to wait a while before getting it. Lol Im just hoping im not one of them. But hopefully you get yours soon! So you can fill us in on all the nice info! =)

post #667 of 2961
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Originally Posted by beasttopray View Post

Thats pretty nice! But I'm assuming this warehouse is only for Oklahoma Best Buy Stores?? Do you stay in Oklahoma? I stay in Los Angeles California and my MDC Rep (Magnolia Design Center) hasnt heard a word or gotten any info yet. Ive been waiting for over 3 weeks for my 5030UB. I hope that there is other warehouses getting them as well. I think there is a Best Buy warehouse somewhere in South Calilfornia. 48 PJ's seems very little for one whole State. Some people are going to end up having to wait a while before getting it. Lol Im just hoping im not one of them. But hopefully you get yours soon! So you can fill us in on all the nice info! =)

I live in Katy, Tx(aka Houston). Apparently the Oklahoma is the hub for Texas also. I bought the 5030ub and SI Black Diamond screen and Stand. The BD and Stand are built just a little over an hour away in Austin, but have to be shipped to Oklahoma then back down to the Best Buy in Katy. I offered to drive and pick up my Screen Innovations purchase direct from the manufacture, but best buy considers that a no go.

I was assured one of those 48 projectors was mine, come Friday if I don't have it in my hot little hands I will be upset...
post #668 of 2961
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Originally Posted by Vanderluck View Post

To all you happy owners of the 5030ub!

One question, when watching 3D am I forced to the high setting? Of the lamp I mean. I'm sure I read that somewhere... eek.gif

No, you are able to select low lamp setting (ie. THX / Cinema mode).
post #669 of 2961
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I plan on looking at this closer and will let you know. For some reason I'm more sensitive to the 'artificial' sharpening processes (RC/Darbee/Super Resolution) in 3D vs. 2D. I think the stereoscopic view in 3D can make it stand out more, not necessarily in a good way. A good example is RC on the HW50 in 3D, I find myself turning it down to minimum and even then can see the exaggerated grain in many non-animated 3D movies.

I was one of the few reviewers last year that paid much attention to Super Resolution, I think it went widely overlooked since it wasn't as 'in your face' as the RC when turning it on/off. From the experience with the 5020, I think it's a nice subtle way of sharpening the image without introducing the artifacts of RC. I'll definitely spend more time looking at it on the 5030.

Thanks, I have seen Darbee at work on a friend's 6010, and I was favorably impressed. Will the Darbee VP be a worthwhile addition with 2D films if I buy the 5030?
post #670 of 2961
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Originally Posted by tunnerl56 View Post

I'm still very new at this, and I've been working with the calculation tool at projector central website for the 5020 model (assume the 5030 will be very similar), and I'm curious as to how much adjustment can be made by the projector unit itself. My current set up will be a 18' throw distance onto a 110 diagonal screen.hCWpp

I'm not sure how reliable the Projector Central Calculator is for the Epson projectors. I own the Epson 8700UB. It shows that I can use 143" screen no problem at 1.0 gain under low ambient light. All things being equal, Projector Central shows that at 143" the 5020UB needs a higher gain screen or a smaller screeen. I don't think this is correct considering the 8700UB is a 1,600 lumen projector and the 5020UB is a 2,400 lumen projector.
post #671 of 2961
Ok, thanks!

Everything sounds good, this is going to be my first Epson. I've gone thru the earlier Sanyo 's and later Panasonic's I change every autum and this year is the year of Epson :-)

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Originally Posted by dawei213 View Post

No, you are able to select low lamp setting (ie. THX / Cinema mode).
post #672 of 2961
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

As Jason said, this is an old discussion. Basically, DLP and OLED displays switch each of the pixels in a frame from fully off to fully on (or vice versa) incredibly fast. LCD and LCoS (and even plasma) can't do that fast enough to be completely ghost free. In other words, a 3D signal needs to be able to put up completely different frames for each eye quicker than the display can accommodate the changes. People may think that this doesn't affect 2D, but it does. For 2D, it's less noticeable, but you see it as a blurring or smearing of the image during fast motion. This is exaggerated for 3D because objects on the screen are in different places for the left and right eye views. You can spot the switching weaknesses of LCD and LCoS in 3D without any fast movement at all. And if there is fast motion, we may see ghosting as well as blurring - a double whammy for image quality. DLP technology uses tiny mirrors to get the image to the screen. These mirrors can switch fast enough that the old frame is completely gone before a new one is projected. For OLED, the pixels can change fast enough to accomplish the same thing. No blurring, no ghosting - just clean, smooth 3D, which is much easier on the eyes.
How is it then that I have at least three titles that are ghost free? If LCD is not fast enough?
post #673 of 2961
Are the pictures taken with or without the Darbee VP on. Those are really good pics.
post #674 of 2961
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Originally Posted by Vanderluck View Post

Ok, thanks!

Everything sounds good, this is going to be my first Epson. I've gone thru the earlier Sanyo 's and later Panasonic's I change every autum and this year is the year of Epson :-)

I'm not sure that is correct with the low lamp and high lamp in 3D, my 5020 forces in high lamp mode when 3D is activated and from what I heard this is the same on the 5030 but I'm not positive. Can someone double check this? I believe the purpose in low lamp mode would be to have the fan no so loud, I love my 5020 very much but I do wish the fan was not so loud in 3D/ high lamp mode.
post #675 of 2961
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Originally Posted by HDextreme View Post


I'm not sure that is correct with the low lamp and high lamp in 3D, my 5020 forces in high lamp mode when 3D is activated and from what I heard this is the same on the 5030 but I'm not positive. Can someone double check this? I believe the purpose in low lamp mode would be to have the fan no so loud, I love my 5020 very much but I do wish the fan was not so loud in 3D/ high lamp mode.

 

3D is only available on Normal Lamp i.e. High

 

Within this mode you have three brightness setting low/med/high, I think this is the source of the confusion!

post #676 of 2961
Aha! So the fan does go up a notch!? Since I'm used to Panasonic there is eco mode. If I understand you correctly it is not possible to use eco mode in 3D with the Epson's ie fan noise does become audiable? Is the higher lamp setting comparable with the one from Panasonic?



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Originally Posted by aBuLhAgaG View Post

3D is only available on Normal Lamp i.e. High

Within this mode you have three brightness setting low/med/high, I think this is the source of the confusion!
post #677 of 2961
Yes that is correct you can not use eco mode which to me is almost completely silent. Switching to 3D activates high power/lamp mode and yes it is pretty loud even if I change seats to get a little further from it. I'm not a big fan of 3D so I'm not planning on using it too often but I wish it was less audible for the very few I do like in 3D. I hear the Panasonic is quieter even in high lamp mode but I have never had the Panasonic.
post #678 of 2961
My 5030ube (8200W) came last night!!! I only did the initial setup and tested a few movies out.
Here are my first impressions as compared to the two 5020ube units I tried earlier this year.

Good:

- Inside packaging is better. Unit was more protected than the 5020.
- Focus and zoom rings seem slightly sturdier, clckier.
- Lens shift buttons still pretty loose, but slightly better than before. I was able to do a decent alignment in a few minutes.
- 3D performance still shows some crosstalk in my opinion, but improved over 5020ube. I was only able to test "Hugo" in 3D last night, but that disc gave my 5020 a lot of trouble and definitely looked better to my eyes on the 5030.

Bad, but mostly region specific:

- No THX mode on Japanese model.
- Only one pair of 3D glasses with Japanese model.
- No protectant bag for included glasses on Japanese model??? I'm calling Epson on this one!
- Possibly one pixel is stuck in green near the top left of my screen. It's not terribly annoying, but I need to check it out as I only noticed it in 3D so far.

That's it for my first two hours of tinkering.
So far, I'm pretty happy!
post #679 of 2961
Does anyone own this projector with an Anamorphic lens? I decided to commit to a 140" 2.35:1 screen, so I'm now in the CIH camp. This gives me the option of the Panasonic 8000 or this projector with an A-lens (I was thinking of going with a Prismasonic P100R).

Any experiences on the matter will be appreciated.
post #680 of 2961
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Originally Posted by odedia View Post

Does anyone own this projector with an Anamorphic lens? I decided to commit to a 140" 2.35:1 screen, so I'm now in the CIH camp. This gives me the option of the Panasonic 8000 or this projector with an A-lens (I was thinking of going with a Prismasonic P100R).

Any experiences on the matter will be appreciated.

The Epson does not do the required vertical stretch for an A-lens. You would also need a video process, AVR or BD player that can do it for you.
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post #681 of 2961
I am sure I will read this entire thread before I pull the trigger but for now I have a few preliminary questions. My bulb blew again yesterday on my older Epson 6500, which has been a great performer for the last five years (except for the lamp - this will be my third, each well under 2,000 hours). I had it professionally calibrated a few years ago and I've always been pleased with the picture. I ordered another lamp but I started to think that maybe it is time to upgrade and wanted to stay with Epson, hence my interest in the 5030.

I have an older Yamaha av receiver that has hdmi inputs for my blu-ray, cable box and DishTV satellite receiver. I run the hdmi output for all these from the receiver to the projector. Will I have to upgrade any of my equipment to get the full benefits of the 5030? I have little interest in 3D other than curiosity, certainly not enough to buy all new equipment to accommodate 3D, but I was wondering if this projector converts normal tv and blu-ray signals to 3D? I think the older 5020 model does that but I'm not sure if you need special equipment to make the conversion from 2D to 3D. Am right in assuming that if you want to watch a 2D program in 3D all you have to do is push a button on the remote and put on the glasses? Or is this an over simplification? What other improvements over my 6500 should I expect? My screen is 106" Carada Brilliant White.
post #682 of 2961
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Originally Posted by aBuLhAgaG View Post

3D is only available on Normal Lamp i.e. High

Within this mode you have three brightness setting low/med/high, I think this is the source of the confusion!

Opps, that's what I was thinking. I don't know what I was thinking. Sorry for the confusion!
post #683 of 2961
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Originally Posted by whokilledkaji View Post

My 5030ube (8200W) came last night!!! I only did the initial setup and tested a few movies out.
- No protectant bag for included glasses on Japanese model??? I'm calling Epson on this one!

The US model doesn't come with a soft bag either (or at least mine didn't). I know it came with the 5020 but looks like they are cost cutting with the newer models..
post #684 of 2961
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Originally Posted by ashdot1111 View Post

I've heard in Australia, the distributor is going to need to sell out of the old models before the new models come into stock! I've heard they had around 100 1-2 weeks ago. :/

Perhaps, but certainly available now, I paid for my TW8200 just now and will pick up this afternoon in Melbourne. I have located a handful of stores with them in stock.

Also have a question regarding the thread title, I had assumed the following:

TW8200 = 5030UB
TW9200 = 6030UB
TW9200W = 6030UBe
post #685 of 2961
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

The Epson does not do the required vertical stretch for an A-lens. You would also need a video process, AVR or BD player that can do it for you.

The 6030 does though, right?
post #686 of 2961
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Originally Posted by WynsWrld98 View Post

The 6030 does though, right?

Yes it does.
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post #687 of 2961
I talked to a Magnolia Rep in Orange County and they said 11/1/13 they will be getting them in so you can have them by Saturday. I think I am going to pull the trigger. I just don't want to get it until I have my audio setup in my man cave.
post #688 of 2961
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

The Epson does not do the required vertical stretch for an A-lens. You would also need a video process, AVR or BD player that can do it for you.

Thanks, yes I'm aware of it. I have the Onkyo 818 that stretches in both modes (vertical and 4:3 squeeze), plus the Boxee Box which is my main video source is able to do it as well (probably better because it's manipulating that actual source file instead of the final output).
post #689 of 2961
Does this projector convert normal 2D pictures to 3D like the 5020?
post #690 of 2961
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Originally Posted by milacqua View Post

I am sure I will read this entire thread before I pull the trigger but for now I have a few preliminary questions. My bulb blew again yesterday on my older Epson 6500, which has been a great performer for the last five years (except for the lamp - this will be my third, each well under 2,000 hours). I had it professionally calibrated a few years ago and I've always been pleased with the picture. I ordered another lamp but I started to think that maybe it is time to upgrade and wanted to stay with Epson, hence my interest in the 5030.

I have an older Yamaha av receiver that has hdmi inputs for my blu-ray, cable box and DishTV satellite receiver. I run the hdmi output for all these from the receiver to the projector. Will I have to upgrade any of my equipment to get the full benefits of the 5030? I have little interest in 3D other than curiosity, certainly not enough to buy all new equipment to accommodate 3D, but I was wondering if this projector converts normal tv and blu-ray signals to 3D? I think the older 5020 model does that but I'm not sure if you need special equipment to make the conversion from 2D to 3D. Am right in assuming that if you want to watch a 2D program in 3D all you have to do is push a button on the remote and put on the glasses? Or is this an over simplification? What other improvements over my 6500 should I expect? My screen is 106" Carada Brilliant White.

You dont need a 3D AVR to CONVERT normal media to 3D. You only need a 3D AVR is you are actually playing actual real 3D content from your Blu Ray Player. If you're AVR supports 1080P which Im sure it should. You should be fine with it. Although some of the newer ones might be better. You could always connect ONE Blu ray Player to the other HDMI output on the 5030UB though if you want to test real 3D content if you happen to have a 3D Blul ray player sitting around. Or a Playstation 3. PS3 can play 3D content directly. Just dont connect it to your AVR as it will not recognize a 3D signal. Although some of the nicer higher end Blu ray players claim to have much nicer picture then normal Blu Ray Players. Like the OPPO. However OPPO's are very very expensive. Just depends on how much money you want to dish out and how satisfied you will be with the picture quality you get with what you have. With a normal new Pioneer AVR I was getting good out of the box picture with my 5020UB. I was happy with it. I didnt see a need to upgrade to high end elite equipment. Im not that picky. So to answer your question. No you dont need any special equipment to convert 2D to 3D. The "special equipment" would be the Epson 5030UB itself. That should be all you need to convert 2D to 3D. All you need is to push the 2D/3D button on the projector remote and put your glasses on and your good to watch converted 3D. But a bit of a warning. Converted 2D to 3D isnt that great. Itll never compare to natural 3D content. Just thought id give you a heads up. 5020UB is an awesome projector and I LOVE it. Im expecting the 5030UB to be better. You cant go wrong with it. Especially if your an Epson fan.

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