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Is it worth buying a new LED/LCD for my bedroom to replace a 32" 2010 Samsung UA32B6000 LED/LCD?

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I have a question regarding upgrading my current bedroom LED/LCD TV. I own a Samsung UA32B6000 32" LED/LCD
TV, my question is will i get any noticeable or for that matter significant upgrade in picture quality if i was to purchase a new 2013 model LED/LCD between 32" and 40" in size?

I'd be willing to spend around $600 - $800 for a new panel. Possibly more...

Thanks.
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That's an interesting question I belive that might be a 2009 model it specs out pretty good not a cheap set .
Maybe you can go look at the 2013 models ? That would be my suggestion. I believe yours is LED backlight rather than edge light that is good sometimes better technology . Sony is using still it on some sets. OTOH I have read that LCD/LED panels have improved in the last 2 yrs . I have an 2009 Dynex and a 2012 Toshiba big difference with the Toshiba being much brighter and better contrast,color saturation/accuracy ,detail etc. Night and day difference. I don't feel the Toshiba needs improvement .

OFC the Dynex is a cheapo set probably a cheap panel also not valid to compare to your Samsung or my Toshiba .
post #3 of 26
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Originally Posted by MetalMX23 View Post

I have a question regarding upgrading my current bedroom LED/LCD TV. I own a Samsung UA32B6000 32" LED/LCD
TV, my question is will i get any noticeable or for that matter significant upgrade in picture quality if i was to purchase a new 2013 model LED/LCD between 32" and 40" in size?

I'd be willing to spend around $600 - $800 for a new panel. Possibly more...

Thanks.

if you're willing to go the plasma route a 42" Panasonic S60 is under $800 and would be a big improvement in a light controlled environment (which includes night-time viewing)

PQ and screen size are not directly related, but getting the largest (reasonable) size that fits your room/budget can improve the viewing experience

the reason I mentioned plasma is because LCD/LED tech hasn't changed dramatically in the last few years whereas plasma tech has greatly (and has basically peaked this year... so the current crop of plasmas might very well be the best the tech has to offer)


that being said if you want to stick to a Samsung LED-LCD, check out the FH and EH series models for the most bang for the buck
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Originally Posted by tubetwister View Post

That's an interesting question I belive that might be a 2009 model it specs out pretty good not a cheap set .
Maybe you can go look at the 2013 models ? That would be my suggestion. I believe yours is LED backlight rather than edge light that is good sometimes better technology . Sony is using still it on some sets. OTOH I have read that LCD/LED panels have improved in the last 2 yrs . I have an 2009 Dynex and a 2012 Toshiba big difference with the Toshiba being much brighter and better contrast,color saturation/accuracy ,detail etc. Night and day difference. I don't feel the Toshiba needs improvement .

OFC the Dynex is a cheapo set probably a cheap panel also not valid to compare to your Samsung or my Toshiba .


Yes it is LED Backlight which is a good thing. The specs are pretty good also yes. It could be a keeper tbh.
post #5 of 26
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if you're willing to go the plasma route a 42" Panasonic S60 is under $800 and would be a big improvement in a light controlled environment (which includes night-time viewing)

PQ and screen size are not directly related, but getting the largest (reasonable) size that fits your room/budget can improve the viewing experience

the reason I mentioned plasma is because LCD/LED tech hasn't changed dramatically in the last few years whereas plasma tech has greatly (and has basically peaked this year... so the current crop of plasmas might very well be the best the tech has to offer)


that being said if you want to stick to a Samsung LED-LCD, check out the FH and EH series models for the most bang for the buck


I already own a 55" Panasonic ST50 which is in my living room. I am not wanting to go the Plasma route again for the bedroom. I was also thinking of purchasing a P55VT60 for the living room if i sell my ST50 but that i'm not sure on yet. From what i have seen at JB HI-FI (Aussie version of BestBuy) the VT60 has the best picture i have seen on any TV it's something else. Only the 4K panels would rival it.

My ST50 looks good for gaming but honestly it doesn't wow me as much as it should. On the other hand my 32" Samsung LED/LCD looks great when i turn on a game. The picture is vibrant, the colors appear accurate and dynamic, there isn't any motion blur either, i can't find much fault with it.

I think the Samsung LED-LCD's are excellent. Are the FH and EH series edge or backlit?

Personally would you choose a LED-LCD or Plasma for your bedroom? and which one would you choose if you we're to use it for gaming purposes to make the PQ appear best as possible?
Edited by MetalMX23 - 9/14/13 at 9:04pm
post #6 of 26
Those P55VT60 are supposed to about the best thing out there for PQ I have a 50" Samsung made plasma also it's very decent fairly bright
(for plasma ) but nothing like P55VT60 PQ .
The Panasonic ST50 you have was Best TV of 2012 on Cnet must be good.
post #7 of 26
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Yes the P55VT60 has phenomenal PQ from what I have seen of it at my local BestBuy a.k.a JB HI-FI here in Australia. I can pick the 55" for $3000 here in Oz but it would be a big purchase and i first have to sell my ST50 since I'd have no use for it and to add additional funds to the purchase of the VT60.

Sadly the VT60 doesn't come in a smaller size so that I may fit it into my bedroom.
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Those P55VT60 are supposed to about the best thing out there for PQ I have a 50" Samsung made plasma also it's very decent fairly bright
(for plasma ) but nothing like P55VT60 PQ .
The Panasonic ST50 you have was Best TV of 2012 on Cnet must be good.

He lives in Australia...he doesn't need a space heater (Plasma) in his bedroom.
post #9 of 26
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I already own a 55" Panasonic ST50 which is in my living room. I am not wanting to go the Plasma route again for the bedroom. I was also thinking of purchasing a P55VT60 for the living room if i sell my ST50 but that i'm not sure on yet. From what i have seen at JB HI-FI (Aussie version of BestBuy) the VT60 has the best picture i have seen on any TV it's something else. Only the 4K panels would rival it.

My ST50 looks good for gaming but honestly it doesn't wow me as much as it should. On the other hand my 32" Samsung LED/LCD looks great when i turn on a game. The picture is vibrant, the colors appear accurate and dynamic, there isn't any motion blur either, i can't find much fault with it.

I think the Samsung LED-LCD's are excellent. Are the FH and EH series edge or backlit?

Personally would you choose a LED-LCD or Plasma for your bedroom? and which one would you choose if you we're to use it for gaming purposes to make the PQ appear best as possible?

EH/FH series is backlit, aka direct-lit or limited full-array

I went with a UN46EH6030 for my bedroom, which was about $650 when I got it. In my case, a 50" or larger plasma was out of the question as it would be too wide to fit on my current TV stand and because of space limitations a larger stand wouldn't work either. Also, if I was going the plasma route I would have preferred a ST60 over a S60 so that if I open the curtains during the day the PQ doesn't go flat (but that would raise the price to about $1K). For nighttime/light-controlled viewing though, I'd always pick a plasma over a LED-LCD (if it was an option).

For PQ with regards to gaming, I'd say while you need to watch out for IR/burn-in from leaving static elements on the screen for too long but the better overall PQ and superior motion resolution would make games look better. Most LED/LCDs exhibit a significant level of blurring with fast motion and gaming can sometimes expose this quite visibly (such as when moving the in-game camera around quickly). There's also the issue of viewing angles, where LED-LCDs can washout off-axis but plasmas stay completely unchanged.
Edited by PlasmaPZ80U - 9/15/13 at 10:39am
post #10 of 26
^ I should add that LED/LCD is best for bright environments and plasma is better for dim/dark environments. LED/LCDs look best during the day thanks to higher light output and no ABL but plasmas look best at night/in a light-controlled room thanks to much deeper black levels and display more lifelike dark scenes/details thanks to the great black levels and contrast ratios. So, you have to ask yourself when do you do most of your viewing and what's the brightest the room gets during the day (if you watch TV during the day in that room). Also, are you the kind of person who is quite careful about not leaving static elements on the screen for too long or would you be more comfortable not having too worry about such stuff.
post #11 of 26
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I did get some slight burn in from a Channel logo on my ST50 a month or so ago but running the scrolling side bar for a day seemed to have removed it. I have gotten image retention with the ST50 but it quickly faded when running the scrolling side bar. I am careful regarding not leaving any static images on the screen but even when the utmost care is taken it can occur as is the case with channel logos.

Is there any Plasma similar in terms of PQ to the VT60 that I could purchase for my bedroom in 40-42"?

With my Samsung UA32B6000 LED/LCD I find there isn't much of any motion blur during gaming the images appear to transition smoothly. Where as I did purchase a Samsung UN55E7500 a year or so ago for $3200-$3500 after bringing the panel home I was bitterly disappointed with the PQ especially when I turned on an Xbox 360 game. There was so much ghosting and motion blur. Also the colour accuracy/reproduction was completely off, the panel was also extremely bright and its black levels we're a joke. After doing more research I returned the panel for a refund and purchased the 55" Panasonic ST50 for a third of the price almost ($1300) which exhibited none of these issues. Did that 55" Samsung possess all those issues because it was edge lit as opposed to backlit? Or is there more to it than that... It is nothing more than an overhyped Smart TV in my opinion.
Edited by MetalMX23 - 9/17/13 at 3:31am
post #12 of 26
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I would be doing most of my gaming at night-time. If gaming during the day my window blinds would be in a closed position essentially leaving the ambience of the room dark.
post #13 of 26
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I did get some slight burn in from a Channel logo on my ST50 a month or so ago but running the scrolling side bar for a day seemed to have removed it. I have gotten image retention with the ST50 but it quickly faded when running the scrolling side bar. I am careful regarding not leaving any static images on the screen but even when the utmost care is taken it can occur as is the case with channel logos.

Is there any Plasma similar in terms of PQ to the VT60 that I could purchase for my bedroom in 40-42"?

With my Samsung UA32B6000 LED/LCD I find there isn't much of any motion blur during gaming the images appear to transition smoothly. Where as I did purchase a Samsung UN55E7500 a year or so ago for $3200-$3500 after bringing the panel home I was bitterly disappointed with the PQ especially when I turned on an Xbox 360 game. There was so much ghosting and motion blur. Also the colour accuracy/reproduction was completely off, the panel was also extremely bright and its black levels we're a joke. After doing more research I returned the panel for a refund and purchased the 55" Panasonic ST50 for a third of the price almost ($1300) which exhibited none of these issues. Did that 55" Samsung possess all those issues because it was edge lit as opposed to backlit? Or is there more to it than that... It is nothing more than an overhyped Smart TV in my opinion.

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I would be doing most of my gaming at night-time. If gaming during the day my window blinds would be in a closed position essentially leaving the ambience of the room dark.

sounds like plasma would be ideal for you aside from the fact that the only 1080p Panasonic plasma that 42" is the S60 (and based on a quick internet search it appears to be recently discontinued)... can you fit a 50" instead?

if you can, the options are the ST60 for $1K, and the S60 for $650
post #14 of 26
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sounds like plasma would be ideal for you aside from the fact that the only 1080p Panasonic plasma that 42" is the S60 (and based on a quick internet search it appears to be recently discontinued)... can you fit a 50" instead?

if you can, the options are the ST60 for $1K, and the S60 for $650


50" would be too large. I am sitting 2 metres and 30 centimetres from the TV to eye level or 7 Feet 7 Inches.
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50" would be too large. I am sitting 2 metres and 30 centimetres from the TV to eye level or 7 Feet 7 Inches.

Check this out.

http://www.rtings.com/info/what-is-the-best-size-for-a-tv
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Check this out.

http://www.rtings.com/info/what-is-the-best-size-for-a-tv


Hmmm.... it is interesting that the optimal size for my bedroom would be 60" that seems ridiculously large.
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50" would be too large. I am sitting 2 metres and 30 centimetres from the TV to eye level or 7 Feet 7 Inches.

if you have a TV stand big enough/enough walking space in the room, it would be fine once you got used to it... any TV bigger than what your currently using (32") will seem huge at first but give it a few days and you'll be glad you got it

for example, I currently sit no more than 7 feet from my 46" EH6030 LED-LCD and I previously was watching a 32" B650 CCFL-LCD from the same distance. The 46" looked ridiculous for a short while after I got it but now you couldn't pay me to go down to something like a 40" or 37".
post #18 of 26
with the advent of HD and 1080p in particular, sitting closer to your TV is recommended to be able to fully appreciate the added detail/resolution vs. the 480i CRTs we used to watch not that long ago

and flat panels are quite slim this days with narrow bezels, which means most sets are almost all-screen
post #19 of 26
I bough a 32" Toshiba LCD for my bedroom about 7 mo ago (excellent picture) now I'm' wanting maybe a ~46" inch now could even end up with a 50 never know?
Fortunately I have a use for the 32" in another room as a second PC monitor . The main set is a big plasma good PQ for the money hard to beat! but as other have said
in bright rooms usually LCD/LED is better.
post #20 of 26
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I honestly want that Panasonic 55VT60 would that be too big for my bedroom? sitting at a distance of 7 Feet 7 Inches from it?

I can purchase it for about $3000 here in Australia. Although with more 4K panels being released would this be an intelligent purchase... opinions?

I'm not sure how much better PQ the VT60 will offer me over my ST50.
post #21 of 26
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I honestly want that Panasonic 55VT60 would that be too big for my bedroom? sitting at a distance of 7 Feet 7 Inches from it?

I can purchase it for about $3000 here in Australia. Although with more 4K panels being released would this be an intelligent purchase... opinions?

I'm not sure how much better PQ the VT60 will offer me over my ST50.

if you have enough space in the room/on the TV stand, it could work

though a 50" ST60 would also be fine


regarding 4K, (IMHO) it won't make real sense until the prices come way down and ample content is released... also, I'm not sure 4K plasmas will ever exist since plasma seems to have basically finished maturing as a tech this year and so next year's models might be largely the same in performance as this year's (at least for Panasonic, which won't be spending much money in R&D next year on plasma tech)

I think we might only see 4K LED-LCDs and eventually 4K OLEDs (the latter has a long way to go before it becomes both a smart and affordable choice)
post #22 of 26
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if you have enough space in the room/on the TV stand, it could work

though a 50" ST60 would also be fine


regarding 4K, (IMHO) it won't make real sense until the prices come way down and ample content is released... also, I'm not sure 4K plasmas will ever exist since plasma seems to have basically finished maturing as a tech this year and so next year's models might be largely the same in performance as this year's (at least for Panasonic, which won't be spending much money in R&D next year on plasma tech)

I think we might only see 4K LED-LCDs and eventually 4K OLEDs (the latter has a long way to go before it becomes both a smart and affordable choice)



Tbh i didn't see any noticeable PQ difference between the ST60 vs my 2012 ST50 and i have seen the ST60 in stores. Where as i was wowed by the VT60's picture.

Attached is a photo of my bedroom. Does a 50" incher look as though it would fit?


IMAG0531.jpg 1996k .jpg file
Edited by MetalMX23 - 9/23/13 at 5:44am
post #23 of 26
MetalMX23

Maybe this will help you decide click on image to enlarge
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Seat-to-Screen Viewing Distance
Individual preferences may differ, but to find the best viewing distance we recommend starting with industry standards, which call for multiplying the TV screen size by 1.2 (min distance) and 1.9 (max distance). Then divide the result by 12 to get the right number of feet. For instance, the best distance for a 55” set would be approximately 5.45, or about 5.5 feet.
http://us.toshiba.com/tv/research-center/shopping-guides/recommended-tv-viewing-distance

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Edited by tubetwister - 9/23/13 at 6:42am
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MetalMX23

Maybe this will help you decide click on image to enlarge
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This also tells me that the optimal TV size for the distance that i am sitting away from the TV (7"7) is 55" so the VT60 would be ideal.
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Tbh i didn't see any noticeable PQ difference between the ST60 vs my 2012 ST50 and i have seen the ST60 in stores. Where as i was wowed by the VT60's picture.

Attached is a photo of my bedroom. Does a 50" incher look as though it would fit?


IMAG0531.jpg 1996k .jpg file

it will fit, though you might want a bigger/more robust TV stand
post #26 of 26
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if you have enough space in the room/on the TV stand, it could work

though a 50" ST60 would also be fine


regarding 4K, (IMHO) it won't make real sense until the prices come way down and ample content is released... also, I'm not sure 4K plasmas will ever exist since plasma seems to have basically finished maturing as a tech this year and so next year's models might be largely the same in performance as this year's (at least for Panasonic, which won't be spending much money in R&D next year on plasma tech)

I think we might only see 4K LED-LCDs and eventually 4K OLEDs (the latter has a long way to go before it becomes both a smart and affordable choice)



I have seen a lot more 4K / UHD Sets at my local Best Buy. Your right the content isn't there yet. Are you aware if the Xbox One or PS4 will be outputting it's content in UHD resolutions?
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