Originally Posted by flyng_fool
if it is such a standard accepted engineering principle that it is another potential point of failure then why do auto and aircraft manufacturers still terminate their wires with spades and other plug in type devices? I'll give you a hint, it doesn't make a difference. There is zero loss of current(at least not enough to matter) and the connection works fine through thousands of miles and flight hours. It seems you're the one making stuff up that it makes a difference and is more prone to failure. Who the hell is going to pick their speaker up by the wires? Banana plugs don't come out under normal conditions. If I tripped over the wire, I'd rather the wire disconnect than the speaker come crashing down on top of me or fall over and get broken.
You are making an apple to orange comparison. Airplanes and AVRs are fantastically dissimilar in an endless number of regards. If it helps you, many times spades and other connections are used for ease of fabrication, design, compatibility, installation, and in areas where it's simply not feasible to use tooling or a moving hand...ever been in an engine compartment or under a dashboard? Yes, there IS indeed a good reason why many of those connections are not of the screw-down variety.
Onward, I never said there was an "audible" or marked difference...because that would be absurd. What I DID say, as a matter of FACT, was the difference was audibly NEGLIGIBLE (but measurable, to be sure in some cases). READ THE POST.
I am making nothing up. Zero. I stand by my noting of the basic premise of avoiding the increase of potential points of failure if possible. Do you know any engineers? Ask them how fictional it is...begin perhaps by bringing up the principles of "reliability engineering" and see what they think.
But hey, don't take my word for it: a few heavy hitters on this very thread have said the same...so much for your continued, false, accusation that this is all "my" information.
And not that I should even address it, but the allusion to picking up a speaker was of course an extreme, ridiculous, example that speaks to the solidity of a properly terminated bare wire. Your aspersion to anything else is meaningless.
have a good one.
JamesEdited by mastermaybe - 9/27/13 at 10:55am