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post #31 of 82
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

There is some coaches that are slobs (Andy Reid ) that are so unbalanced and dysfunctional in their personal lives they put 99% into being and NFL coach that there is nothing left for personal life, family, and even personal health. Didn't Andy Reid have a kid die and another go to jail and he's basically an absentee father ?

That comment is ridiculous and can only be classified as incredibly ignorant. You shouldn't believe everything you read in the papers or what is reported on Sportscenter or whatever.

Andy Reid is a professional and comports himself as such. He is a thoughtful and very intelligent man. His size does not make him a slob. As far as his personal life is concerned you really know nothing about it, or for that matter him; if you did, you would not make a comment on a public forum about him.
post #32 of 82
Calm down. No need for offense third party.

First,

I would use such terms as "slob" except I've seen Andy Reid use such terms describing himself on TV in "MIC-ed UP" so if he's going to self describe I'll roll with that. There was a funny scene in Hard Knocks when Rex Ryan (before he lost weight) met with Andy before a pregame and they joked about being the two heaviest coaches in the league.

Second,

If your on TV and a celebrity and making millions your going to be exposed to media and fan criticism. There is no "safe place" from this so my comments are not meant to be offensive, and I'm not the only one talking about such. It's been on TV and many articles throughout the years.

I am not sure I want to really pick on him because I like the guy, but I think you are over reacting. I do believe my comments were factually correct. I just looked it up "His oldest son, Garrett, was found dead August 5, 2012, in his room at training camp at Lehigh University from an accidental heroin overdose." and there was more than a few candid interviews that Andy has said on record that he wishes he had spent less time professionally and more family time looking back- and that is a regret he has.

I'm not trying to beat him up, but just saying what I thought to be true. At the end of the day he's a type of celebrity (at least if your NFL fan) and as such does not get privileged to the normal social customs individuals get with social and political correctness. When your a celebrity in the media all bets are off.
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" On January 30th, 2007, Garrett and Britt Reid, the two oldest sons of Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid and his wife Tammy, were arrested in separate driving incidents. Police found drugs in the car of Garrett, 23, a student at Montgomery County Community College, after he had an accident. Britt, 21, also attending MCCC, was held on drug and weapon offenses after allegedly pointing a gun at another motorist"

I know Andy has been beat up a lot for his weight in the past and on TV so I meant no offense by what I said.

the media is riddled with this stuff: (even his current employer has tweeted it )

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1/3/3830380/andy-reid-interview-chiefs-tweets-barbecue



And you see stuff like this all the time:




Please don't make me out to be some inconsiderate idiot. The world is already too full of political correctness and can use a good dose of reality. These guys are NFL stars, one of only 32 people in the world that can claim they are an NFL head coach. They all make millions of dollars and have very high media exposure- including multiple appearances on PRIME TIME NATIONAL TV - something even other famous people would die for. They are not beyond discussion or criticism.
post #33 of 82
I wonder if evening game with cool rain on the surface could cause a temperature inversion, giving optimal environment for high spl?

http://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/refract/refract.html
post #34 of 82
@mfusick

OK. I probably could have used less pejorative terms than ridiculous and ignorant in my original post. I read that post at a particular cranky moment at my office and no one was around to talk me down.

Let me sum up:

I am quite aware of the 'facts' of Andy Reid's life. The only facts in any of this media is that Andy Reid is overweight, has a self-deprecating sense of humor, admitted he could have spent more time with his family, and his sons serious drug addiction, one of whom died of an overdose. To paint with a broad brush stroke that portrays Mr. Reid as having put "99% into being an NFL coach [and having] nothing left for personal life, family, and even personal health' is simply conjecture.
Edited by Willie - 9/20/13 at 6:41am
post #35 of 82
Fair enough,.... Perhaps I judged him too harsh as a parent. It's never good when one kid goes to jail (actually both did) and another kid dies from drug overdose (and was found with steroids). No matter how hard you try you fail as a parent when that happens. That's just my opinion. I am sure there is many reasons for it all- but at the end of the day parenting is the single biggest thing that can prevent such a thing. I pray that will never happen to my kids- and I'll do everything I can to avoid it.

On a funnier note:



post #36 of 82
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Originally Posted by lilmike View Post

Seahawk fans are something else.

The Seahawks fans quite literally shook the earth during a playoff game in 2011.

No - not a huge earthquake, but it did register on a local seismometer.

Supposedly that happens often at Arrowhead. They players can feel the ground move at times. I guess it happened at the Cowboys game 2 weeks ago, but the only mentions of it I can find are on KC fan sites, so take it with a grain of salt wink.gif
post #37 of 82
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Originally Posted by mitkent View Post

+136.6db ..after a sack of the 49er QB! It reached -30db in my house at the same moment. :~{ >

Hey that happened at my buddy's place where we were watching....rolleyes.gif Hope the new Santa Clara stadium is designed along those same lines as the Seattle stadium....
Edited by lovinthehd - 9/20/13 at 7:11pm
post #38 of 82
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Originally Posted by scorpio516 View Post

Supposedly that happens often at Arrowhead. They players can feel the ground move at times. I guess it happened at the Cowboys game 2 weeks ago, but the only mentions of it I can find are on KC fan sites, so take it with a grain of salt wink.gif

The should get going for the Broncos game ... Chiefs fans seem pretty excited this year.
post #39 of 82
Have your spl meters out when the Seahawks win the Super Bowl! The spl will split the continental shelf and LV will become the new west coast.
post #40 of 82
Is this like saying Aroldis Chapman throws 110mph?

James
post #41 of 82
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

Have your spl meters out when the Seahawks win the Super Bowl! The spl will split the continental shelf and LV will become the new west coast.

Everybody know's Tom Brady is going to get his 4th SB ring this year... don't be silly. tongue.gif
post #42 of 82
Call me when they do it at 10Hz!
post #43 of 82
Thread Starter 
On October 13, 2013, a new record was set at Arrowhead Stadium with 137.5 dB!

Chiefs fans at Arrowhead Stadium break world record for stadium noise level

post #44 of 82
I guess that'll be the new thing now at every stadium. eek.gif
post #45 of 82
The number is useless unless we know the type of measurement system was used.
post #46 of 82
Wow, man I wish our offense was half as good as our defense.

Are we for real? No, but our defense really is good. The problem is when we face a good team (hardly any on our schedule) our defense will tire out since it will be nothing but 3 and out for our offense.


As far as the decibel thing goes, I wish they could broadcast an uncompressed dynamic signal to us at home watching on our systems. As it is, a Cheifs game or Seahawks game is the most compressed/squashed audio you will ever hear.
post #47 of 82
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Manic1! View Post

The number is useless unless we know the type of measurement system was used.
Here is a picture and text from the measurement at Centurylink Field. It looks like they used a Larson-Davis 2900.


Philip Robertson, right, an adjudicator with Guinness World Records, examines a device used to measure the sound level of cheering fans at CenturyLink Field in Seattle prior to an NFL football game between the Seattle Seahawks and the San Francisco 49ers, Sunday, Sept. 15, 2013, in Seattle. Fans are at the notoriously loud stadium are attempting to set a new Guinness World Record for crowd noise at an athletic event during the game. At left is Matt Roe, an acoustical consultant with Seattle-based SSA Acoustics who will be measuring the sound levels. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson)

From this article about the measurement at Arrowhead Stadium:
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The sound level must be recorded on a "Class 1 precision measuring noise level meter certified and calibrated" for the attempt, Panas said. "A sound engineer must sign off on whether or not the measuring device is functional for this."

The microphone must be positioned between 1.5 and 1.6 meters off the ground (about five feet), and the record is measured by the general roar, which can include external instruments used by spectators.

"No mechanical noise produced by the venue will be taken into consideration," Panas said.
post #48 of 82
Go Chiefs! Fingers and toes crossed for making it to the Big game. Defense wins championships, but the offense has to at least show up. I have a group if friends that watch the game in the parking lot and they said the crowd was nuts out there as well last Sunday.
post #49 of 82
Everyone I know is claiming SB for the chiefs...I keep trying to remind them that they haven't played a team that is worth a darn. They haven't played a team with a winning record yet...when they played the titans they had a winning record, but had just lost their starting QB the week prior, I don't think we can accurately predict winning a playoff game, let alone a SB appearance just yet. I think their record is going to be inflated due to the fact that they only play 3 teams with a winning record, Denver twice and Indy once. But Meh...I'm not a chiefs fan anyway.
post #50 of 82
I don't think they will make, but I hope they do
post #51 of 82
There numbers are inflated.

If stadiums are going to start engaging in SPL wars then Guiness needs to tighten the reigns on the testing criteria.

As in...they need to verify that stadiums are not utilizing their audio systems to augment the live crowd.

How much can a stadium system really add? I don't know, unless you are at the Packers stadium which I'd say their system alone could come close to breaking that record.

tongue.gif

In the case of a "world record" .1db actually matters, so you gotta make sure it's as close to a level playing field as practical.
post #52 of 82
Danley FTW!!! Rodgers has even commented on how nice the new system is!!!
post #53 of 82
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/records-1/loudest-crowd-roar-at-a-sports-stadium/

I mean it depends on a lot of things, I've been to several Chiefs games and never thought it was loud enough in the stands...granted I've never been on the sideline during a game. Or obviously on the field. I think if you want to measure for true meaning, you'd want to do it from the field of play, maybe average several spots along the field...50 yard line and each goal line and each 20 or something to that effect. Who cares how loud it is in the corner of the press box....that doesn't help win games...how loud it is on the field is what counts.
post #54 of 82
It must get pretty loud down on the field, I remember a couple of times during the Cowboys game Tony Romo was literally going up to every lineman individually and yelling right into the ear hole of their helmets to try to change a play.

However I'm not buying 137. I believe that would be the same as taking a 2000 watt amp to power my speakers and sitting a meter away from them at full power. I'd be deaf very quickly. eek.gif
post #55 of 82
Thread Starter 
The measurements are taken at the field level. At the Chief's game it looks like they had two SPL Meters. One is a Larson Davis Model 831. It has a max range of 143 dB. There is probably full logging taking place. These meters have to meet all kinds of standards and are used for precision measurements with an accuracy of .1 dB.



post #56 of 82
Thread Starter 
3M donated 36,000 pairs of earplugs for fans to wear while at the game. biggrin.gif
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On Sunday, fans aim to break the world record for “Loudest Crowd Cheer at a Sports Stadium" during the Kansas City Chiefs-Oakland Raiders NFL game. Fans will set the Guinness World Record at Arrowhead Stadium if they exceed 136.6 decibels (dB). Breaking the record may come at a cost, though, as exposure to loud sounds, greater than 85 dBA, can cause permanent hearing loss and tinnitus.
As a leader in hearing conservation, 3M is participating in this event by donating 36,000 sets of earplugs for fans to wear during the game. To help prevent permanent hearing loss, 3M encourages fans to wear hearing protection during all loud events at work, at home and in the public. Fans can download 3M’s hearing conservation mobile app, which includes a sound level meter that indicates when noise levels may exceed 85 dB. The app is available for iOS and Android users. 3M has also donated a 3M™ SoundPro™ Sound Level Meter to measure the decibels during the game.
post #57 of 82
Yes, but we all know how quickly it falls off at range....those mics are what 30 yards from the center of the field...where the QB is making the calls?? Move the Mic to the center of the field and see what it measures there. It is obviously loud, but not 137 dB loud....If you put one of those an inch from my mouth when I scream I could probably hit its peak :P
post #58 of 82
137DB is always loud
post #59 of 82
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Wow, man I wish our offense was half as good as our defense.

Are we for real? No, but our defense really is good. The problem is when we face a good team (hardly any on our schedule) our defense will tire out since it will be nothing but 3 and out for our offense.


As far as the decibel thing goes, I wish they could broadcast an uncompressed dynamic signal to us at home watching on our systems. As it is, a Cheifs game or Seahawks game is the most compressed/squashed audio you will ever hear.


After facing 2 winless teams, no one with a record over .500 and all with a combined record of 11-25? Nope, not even close to being real, sorry. Let's just say I'm happy my Broncos still have 2 wins, I mean games coming from ya. tongue.gifbiggrin.gif

And yeah this weekly "noise battle" already has me on the verge of puking.

James
post #60 of 82
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

It must get pretty loud down on the field, I remember a couple of times during the Cowboys game Tony Romo was literally going up to every lineman individually and yelling right into the ear hole of their helmets to try to change a play.

However I'm not buying 137. I believe that would be the same as taking a 2000 watt amp to power my speakers and sitting a meter away from them at full power. I'd be deaf very quickly. eek.gif

Dear god... That's some perspective right there.

Look at this picture again.

Philip Robertson doesn't seem to be wearing the 3M provided ear plugs.

Carp, reach out to Philip and invite him over to your place. If you can get him to confirm, I'll make it a point to overnight you my FP10KQ. Have your LCR Noesis 3 feet from your couch...ready and waiting for him. Give him a 137db blast. Please be sure to record it for official documentation pursposes as you will hold the record for "First person to ever make a Guiness World Record staff member $hat themselves."

Sounds like a pretegious title if you ask me. Should come with a plaque as well.
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