Originally Posted by Ungermann
Nice shots. Without arguing against "small cameras" I would still note that the EOS M is small only when there is no lens attached to it. Granted, you made all the shots with just one relatively short lens, but normally 35mm fixed lens is not enough, so you either need several lenses and bother with switching them, or you need a single mega-zoom lens, and a good zoom lens would be large, heavy and expensive. And since the EOS M lineup has only three lenses made specifically for this new mount, you would have to get EF/EF-S mount for at least $140 (yay, freaking cheap, it was $200+ I believe), which will also lengthen the whole setup. Not exactly a small camera IMO.
(With 1.6 crop factor the 35 lens should be usable for many around-town shots though.).
This is why I am waiting for a camera that is:
* relatively compact
* has non-removable zoom lens with decent range, say at least 8x, with image stabilizer. I don't want a hassle to replace lenses and to carry them around. I am willing to lose some quality for convenience.
* has reasonably large sensor, although anything larger than 2/3-inch would probabably be ok
* has manual focus ring - a must, whatever touch-focus lovers may say
* has Both 60p and native 24p with reasonable bitrate (having 25/50fps ability would be a nice touch, my D3200 has it)
* has mic input
* has high-res tilting screen, which is NOT touch-sensitive OR which allows to turn touch-sense off, in favor of regular buttons.
* Ability to shoot videos longer than 30 minutes
* $500 or less would be great
Of course, I could get the EOS M for $300 + $140 for adapter + 50mm lens for $100 and shut up ;-) But I figured that switching from Nikon to Canon lenses was a bigger pain, so I did not.
Your arithmetic is right and your wishes are mine, BUT 1. You left out large aperture
(for low light - that is absolutely critical no matter what the sensor size). Combining an 8X zoom that is large aperture (at least f2.0 or even f2.8 throughout) and has OIS with a big sensor means - a very
big lens. The NEX and the EOS M show you can shrink the camera body size to pocketable (as you say), but the lenses are still big (the NEX plus lens almost looks absurd). It is just physics.
You are never going to get a lens/body combo that is smaller that gets you what you want. The EOS M (and the NEX) come as close as I think is possible, ever
(their AF, video resolution and artifact performance can be improved over time) to meeting all your requirements.
My EOS M complete kit is the 35mm (equivalent 56mm) f2.0, for low light (indoors, night), and the 18-135mm (29-216mm) IS STM zoom for everything else. Can't carry any of this in my pocket, but it still fits in a small bag. For short trips, I carry one set or another depending on whether I will be indoors or out. For travel, one set on me, one lens in the suitcase.
If you find a pocketable camera with all your requirements (plus large aperture lens even at full extension and good audio), let us all know.Edited by markr041 - 9/17/13 at 7:25pm