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The Review at a Glance: (max score: 5 )

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95





Studio and Year: Disney - 2013
MPAA Rating: PG-13
Feature running time: 130 minutes
Genre: Action/fantasy

Disc Format: BD-50
Encoding: AVC (MPEG-4)
Video Aspect: 2.40:1
Resolution: 1080p/24


Audio Format(s): English DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio, French DTS-HD 7.1 High Resolution, Spanish Dolby Digital 5.1
Subtitles: English SDH, French/Spanish
Starring: Robert Downey Jr. Don Cheadle, Gweneth Paltrow, Rebecca Hall, Guy Pearce, Ben Kingsley, Jon Favreau
Directed by: Shane Black
Music by: Brian Tyler
Written by: Drew Pearce & Shane Black
Region Code: A,B,C

Blu-ray Disc release Date: September 24, 2013







"Unleash the power behind the armor"


Film Synopsis:

Marvel Studios’ Iron Man 3 pits brash-but-brilliant industrialist Tony Stark/Iron Man against and enemy whose reach knows no bounds. When Stark finds his personal world destroyed at his enemy’s hands, he embarks on a harrowing quest to find those responsible. This journey, at every turn, will test his mettle. With his back against the wall, Stark is left to survive by his own devices, relying on his ingenuity and instincts to protect those closest to him. As he fights his way back, Stark discovers the answer to the question that has secretly haunted him: Does the man make the suit or does the suit make the man?


My Take:

As a kid I was definitely a comic book fan. I dabbled a little bit in DC comics but my heart belonged to Marvel. Spiderman was my first Marvel favorite, followed by Thor and then I picked up an Iron man comic. There was always something about Iron man that I found intriguing. I can’t say for certain whether it was Tony Stark’s money/fame/brilliance or Iron man’s vulnerable side that showed that underneath the armor was a man who was fallible but couldn’t show it. I guess it might have been the idea that potentially anyone could be Iron man once they donned the armor. For me I always thought that his armor was just so freakin’ cool. After the success of the first film I eagerly awaited Iron man 2. Following up a movie like Iron man can be tricky. I had faith in the director, and cast but wasn’t quite sure how the continuing storyline would shake out. My reaction to it was/is lukewarm at best and when Iron man 3 was announced I couldn’t help but feel apprehensive.

As I have done with all the Marvel films that have come to the big screen I went to see Iron man 3 in the theater. The storyline picks up after the events depicted in The Avengers with Tony Stark suffering from some anxiety and post traumatic distress after his near death encounter with the aliens. Channeling his inability to sleep into work he goes about redesigning his armor and working up several new integrative concepts that further enhance his ability to connect/interact with it. His relationship with Pepper has flourished but has become a bit strained due to his condition which he has kept from her. In the meantime past deeds come home to roost when a terrorist calling himself the Mandarin arises and embarks on a world wide reign of terror. When the Mandarin’s attack hits close to home, Tony publicly challenges him which leads to a devastating confrontation that places Tony on the defensive, far from home and with little to no resources with which to mount a “suitable” (pun intended) defense.

Having to resort to ingenious methods as well as relying on help that comes from well outside of his usual means Tony comes face to face with a seemingly impenetrable foe that is hell bent on destroying him. The result will put those he loves at risk and open his eyes to the truth about what he has come to believe has defined him.

Let’s be honest anyone that goes into a film based on a comic book superhero expecting Hamlet is probably going to be disappointed. Iron man 3 isn’t high brow entertainment but it deftly adheres to the formula that has made the franchise successful and in my opinion easily improves upon its predecessor. Robert Downey Jr. proves once again that he owns this character and his Iron man continues to be my favorite of the Marvel Universe heroes brought to the big screen. The narrative’s angst ridden subtext plays perfectly against its infused humor/wit which is of course executed perfectly by Downey Jr. There is a bit of corn and a pretty good plot twist, which I am not ashamed to admit that I didn’t see coming, to go with it. There is ample action headlined by a couple of entertaining set pieces but I must say that I found it somewhat disappointing that for large portions of the film Downey isn’t wearing his armor. The production elements are as you would expect, top notch and lots of fun.

In addition to Robert Downey Jr., returning cast members Gweneth Paltrow, Don Cheadle and Jon Favreau have it down pat. Gweneth is drop dead sexy and I really liked what was done with her character. The new faces in James Badge Daley, Ben Kingsley and Guy Pearce are spot on. Rebecca Hall is a quality actress that didn’t have enough of a role to be a factor in my opinion but she certainly didn’t detract in any way. Having seen Iron man 3 twice now it is safe to say that I like it and feel that it compliments the series. Iron man remains my favorite with this installment coming in second followed by Iron man 2. I am not certain what lies in store for the character but rest assured I will be there to see his next adventure.


Parental Guide:

The rating is for intense sequences of sci-fi action and violence and some language.



AUDIO/VIDEO - By The Numbers:
REFERENCE = 92-100 / EXCELLENT = 83-91 / GOOD = 74-82 / AVERAGE = 65-73 / BELOW AVERAGE = under 65

**My audio/video ratings are based upon a comparative made against other high definition media/blu-ray disc.**


(Each rating is worth 4 points with a max of 5 per category)

Audio: 96


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Video: 94

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Iron man 3 comes to Blu-ray Disc from Disney featuring 1080p AVC encoded video that has an average bitrate of 22 Mbps and lossless DTS-HD 7.1 Master Audio sound that has an average bitrate of 3.9 Mbps.

This is an excellent video presentation that that boasts image quality that is indicative of a newer release film coming to Blu-ray. Resolution is strong as images exhibit crisp definition and lucid clarity. Objects onscreen appear dimensionally strong with exquisite rendering that discloses subtle minutia captured by the camera’s lens during close ups. The level of sharpness especially during wide angle shots fluctuates some however this is attributable the extensive CGI used and I never felt it adversely affected the quality of what I was seeing. The range of colors used appears vibrant with warm vivid hues and delineated textures that look great in high definition. Fleshtones are naturally rendered with warm accents that give them lifelike tonality. Blacks are inky and noise free with discernibly deep and variant shades that enhance the films dark sequences. Contrast is elevated slightly which gives the image a dynamic quality but I didn’t feel it adversely impacted fidelity. The deep shadows, gradational grays, delineated colors, and inky blacks looked terrific on my large screen. I didn’t see any signs of video degrading artifacts or compression related noise.

After seeing Iron Man 3 theatrically I couldn’t help but look forward to experiencing its lossless soundtrack in my home theater and of course it did not disappoint. The 7.1 DTS-HD Master Audio sound mix makes for a dynamic presentation that features hard hitting transient peaks and room shaking bass that will reward those with systems capable of reproducing them. Low frequency effects are used to underscore the bombastic nature of this soundtrack and it does so with palpable authority. This is a sophisticated sound design that is loaded with various sound effects, spatial cues, music, and dialogue. Each is clearly rendered with enriching dynamism, and high level detail via an aggressive surround mix that where appropriate utilizes the entire system to envelope and revolve around the listening position. Brian Tyler’s music is blended with the action and sounds terrific. Dialogue is clearly rendered and variably distinctive. Iron man 3 on Blu-ray Disc from appears faithful to the film’s theatrical presentation and makes for an enriching home theater experience.

Bonus Features:

  • (HD) Marvel One-Shot: Agent Carter – 15 minute short film featuring the character from Captain America: The First Avenger

  • (HD) Iron man 3: unmasked – 11 minute featurette

  • (HD) Deconstructing the scene: Attack on Air Force One 8 minute featurette

  • (HD) Exclusive behind the scene look: Thor – The Dark World

  • (HD) 10 deleted/extended scenes

  • (HD) Gag reel – 5 minutes

  • Audio commentary with director/co-writer Shane Black & writer Drew Pearce

  • Bonus DVD

  • Digital Copy



Final Thoughts:

Deft and more closely reminiscent of Iron man than its predecessor, Iron man 3 is an engaging and fun action film that captures the essence of the Iron man mythos in an exciting, contemporary and entertaining way that fans can enjoy. It blasts onto Blu-ray from Disney featuring top notch high definition video, rip roaring DTS-HD 7.1 channel surround sound and a slightly disappointing but passable supplemental package. Iron man 3 deserves a place in the collections of fans and comes recommended on Blu-ray.


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Ralph Potts
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Sherbourn Technologies - 7/200 Seven Channel Amplifier
B&K Reference 200.7 Series 2 Seven Channel Amplifier
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post #2 of 102
Thanks for the review Ralph. I've had this pre-ordered since I saw it in theaters in May. I'm glad to hear that the blu-ray won't disappoint. Thanks again for all your reviews: I enjoy hearing your thoughts!
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Originally Posted by fredxr2d2 View Post

Thanks for the review Ralph. I've had this pre-ordered since I saw it in theaters in May. I'm glad to hear that the blu-ray won't disappoint. Thanks again for all your reviews: I enjoy hearing your thoughts!

Greetings,

You're very welcome Tim. Be sure to post back once you have seen it... smile.gif


Regards,
post #4 of 102
nice review!...1st IM3 Blu-ray review I've seen online as well...I havn't seen any of the big summer blockbusters in the theater as I heard less then stellar reviews on most of them...seems like Iron Man 3 is the best of a disappointing summer...will most likely pick it up next week!
post #5 of 102
Since I live in Europe I have bought this Blu-Ray a couple weeks ago as it was released here sooner than in the States.

I have seen it a couple times now and I completely agree with your review, Ralph.

And I personally loved the film too.

Thanks for all your work.
post #6 of 102
Well written Ralph! For some reason after viewing at the theater, I was lukewarm about the immediacy of picking this one up (compared to the two previous installments). But you've certainly peaked my interest and considering my "completionist" personality I'll be getting it anyway I realize there is no real harm in adding it to my collection. You do bring forth an interesting thought though. Iron Man performed like Hamlet would be interesting indeed! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Spiritvs View Post

Since I live in Europe I have bought this Blu-Ray a couple weeks ago as it was released here sooner than in the States.

I have seen it a couple times now and I completely agree with your review, Ralph.

And I personally loved the film too.

Thanks for all your work.

Greetings,

Great to hear Spiritvs. Thanks for chiming in and for your kind words. smile.gif

Regards,
post #8 of 102
Why didn't they send you the 3D bluray?
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Why didn't they send you the 3D bluray?
I was wondering the same thing...
post #10 of 102
Blind buy for me
post #11 of 102
Thank you for the in depth review Ralph. September is a busy month for blu ray junkies smile.gif I did not see this in theaters so I'm looking forward to it. Robert Downey is such a wise guy I can't help but like the character he plays in IM.
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Iron Man 3 was ok in 3d but the best 3d bluray of the year goes to star trek into darkness. As for Iron Man 3 i will buy it on bluray. Lots of bonus features. I especially love the scene near the chinese theater, which is reopening this weekend with the imax 3d'd version of the wizard of oz, now rated pg. The mandarin was a soso enemy. COmparing it to iron man 2, this one is much better and continues the phase two era that began in last year's The Avengers. The next marvel movie, Thor the dark world will have the trailer for Captain America the winter soldier, which will have a trailer for guardians of the galaxy, which will have a trailer for the avengers: age of ultron. Phase three will have Ant Man, among other movies. ANd don't forget next monday's Marvel's Agents of shield, a tv series that will face cancellation. ABC is airing Iron Man 2 tonight in crappy hd. They will also air a new trailer for Thor the Dark World.
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Why didn't they send you the 3D bluray?

Greetings,

The studio sent us advanced Blu-ray "screeners" for Iron Man 3 rather than "final product" (retail version) which is what we normally get for review. I suspect that the reason is that final product wasn't going to be available until street date and they wanted us to have the opportunity to review before hand. The 3D sets weren't an option. Sorry about that...


Regards,
post #14 of 102
Thanks for the info Ralph!
post #15 of 102
Ralph I was wondering which of your Blu-Ray players you use when reviewing this and other discs? The Oppo, Panasonic, or PS3
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Originally Posted by BNestico View Post

Ralph I was wondering which of your Blu-Ray players you use when reviewing this and other discs? The Oppo, Panasonic, or PS3

Greetings,

My reference player is the Oppo. Occasionally I will use the Panasonic if for some reason I run into compatibility issues between my reference player and a specific title. I use the PS3 with every review for viewing of the bonus material and for bitrate data.


Regards,
post #17 of 102
Thanks alot for another great review Ralph! Im a huge super hero fan and love the movies based on the comic book characters so this is gunna be a blind buy for me. Very excited espcially after seeing the review results. Seem like comic book movies always have really great soundtracks. I didnt get a chance to see IM3 in theaters cause on our trip to see it while were in KC my wife talked me into seeing the The Great Gatsby instead. After it was over we both wished we had went to IM3 instead. I really enjoy Iron Man 1 and 2 and think they both have woderfull soundtracks and video quality as well. Looks like the 3rd installment goes along with that trend. Ill prolly get the 3D version.


Thanks alot Ralph.
post #18 of 102
Thanks for the great review! Looking forward to the IM3 release and am happy you were reviewing the 2D version. I'm not yet a fan of 3D, partially because I'm not comfortable wearing glasses over glasses.
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Originally Posted by ohiodaveht View Post

Thanks for the great review! Looking forward to the IM3 release and am happy you were reviewing the 2D version. I'm not yet a fan of 3D, partially because I'm not comfortable wearing glasses over glasses.

If you happen to have contact lenses you should try watching 3D that way. My wife wears glasses and contacts and once she tried 3D wearing her contact lenses she loved it. Just a thought.smile.gif
post #20 of 102

Although I don't think I'd watch this straight through again on my own, this review has solidified my expectation that I'll be using many scenes from this movie for Demonstration purposes for years to come! The first Iron Man is also my favorite--I'm not sure why the reins were taken from John Favreau for the second and third installments.  In any case, I expect to ripple many an eardrum with this film playing at reference.

 

Maybe I'll give the story another shot too.  I have been known to occasionally change my opinion of movies after a second or third viewing (War of the Worlds being one example.)

post #21 of 102
Thanks Ralph. You sold me another one! biggrin.gif
post #22 of 102
I will pick this up on release date... great review King P ! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

The studio sent us advanced Blu-ray "screeners" for Iron Man 3 rather than "final product" (retail version) which is what we normally get for review. I suspect that the reason is that final product wasn't going to be available until street date and they wanted us to have the opportunity to review before hand. The 3D sets weren't an option. Sorry about that...


Regards,

Disney does that. Really, what they should've done is send you an "advanced Blu-ray 3D screener," wouldn't you agree? tongue.gif

Still, thanks for the review! Great as always, Ralph! My son felt the same way you did about Stark not being in the suit as much, but I actually enjoyed that...it made him even more human, something Downey Jr. just can't do wrong. wink.gif

IMHO, the 3D is worth it, so that's what I'll be getting... So many cool movies this year! cool.gif

And, for those who think Star Trek Into Darkness was the best 3D movie this summer, if you haven't seen Pacific Rim 3D, "you ain't seen nothin' yet!" eek.gif
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Originally Posted by ohiodaveht View Post

Thanks for the great review! Looking forward to the IM3 release and am happy you were reviewing the 2D version. I'm not yet a fan of 3D, partially because I'm not comfortable wearing glasses over glasses.

They do have clip-on 3D lenses that attach to glasses.
post #25 of 102
Very surprised Ralph that you mentioned being a comic book fan in general, and an Iron Man fan in particular, yet you actually liked this movie. The two seem greatly at odds...
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Very surprised Ralph that you mentioned being a comic book fan in general, and an Iron Man fan in particular, yet you actually liked this movie. The two seem greatly at odds...

Greetings,

Actually I said that as a kid I was a comic/Iron Man fan. I no longer dabble in reading comics but of course still appreciate the fun and escapism they provided when I did. Having said that and in response to your comments I would say that Iron Man 3 in my opinion falls within the same category, a fun bit of escapism. I honestly don't think that viewing it alongside the comics would be appropriate or fair as I don't believe that is the intent. Your opinion may differ but that is how I see it.


Regards,
post #27 of 102
Ok, is there any difference between the $29.96 gold box version and the $24.96 red box version besides the digital copy? Doesn't seem worth $5.00 just to pick up the a digital copy. Most movies throw that in for free.
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

Actually I said that as a kid I was a comic/Iron Man fan. I no longer dabble in reading comics but of course still appreciate the fun and escapism they provided when I did. Having said that and in response to your comments I would say that Iron Man 3 in my opinion falls within the same category, a fun bit of escapism. I honestly don't think that viewing it alongside the comics would be appropriate or fair as I don't believe that is the intent. Your opinion may differ but that is how I see it.


Regards,

Gotcha on the comic reader as a kid part. Haven't read a comic since the mid 90's myself. Been a while, but not so long that I don't recognize the pretty terrible treatment of the source material. Particularly with what you referred to as the plot twist. I won't elaborate for those that have not yet seen, or heard about this controversial, and nonsensical, twist.

"I honestly don't think that viewing it alongside the comics would be appropriate or fair as I don't believe that is the intent."

I appreciate this sentiment, as I hear it all the time, but I would ask, if the movies shouldn't be compared to the source, then what should they be compared to? If I shouldn't compare Iron Man to Iron Man, then maybe they should have created a totally new IP instead of trying to garner sales off of an existing IP that they have no intention of honoring.

See, maybe it's me, but I find it disingenuous that these studios want to line their pockets with the box office sales of the fans of the source material that will undoubtedly flock to see these films, all the while holding them in disdain by saying that they don't matter. It's the broader audience they want. The audience that doesn't know the character intimately, and therefore doesn't care or notice inconsistencies, or even egregious treatments. That's fine. I find it curious though that the source material was popular enough to get a $300mil movie greenlit, yet they feel they need to change everything in order for it to be successful. Wouldn't that broader audience like the movie just as much if it stuck to the source material? Afterall, they don't know the characters intimately anyway, right? That's their rationale at least. Yet, if it was good enough, to make it popular enough, to make it into a movie, then it should be good enough for the broader audience as well, I'd think. Then, the broader audience likes it and the fans that made the movie possible for the broader audience to see a Marvel movie in the first place, don't feel alienated and shunned.

I just can't imagine a Harry Potter film that isn't made for fans of the book. Game of Thrones changes very little from "A Song of Ice and Fire", yet it's still one of the most popular shows on pay TV or otherwise.

Not taking issue with you or your review. I read all your reviews and enjoy them. I was just taken aback by the fact that you enjoyed the movie after reading that you were a fan of the Iron Man comic, as most people that I know of, in real life and in cyberspace, that read the comics, felt the opposite. Again, I get you on the as a kid thing, though.

Just providing another take. And venting I guess as well, lol.

Thanks for the response, and your time, and the reviews.
Edited by Stuntman_Mike - 9/18/13 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by Stuntman_Mike View Post

Gotcha on the comic reader as a kid part. Haven't read a comic since the mid 90's myself. Been a while, but not so long that I don't recognize the pretty terrible treatment of the source material. Particularly with what you referred to as the plot twist. I won't elaborate for those that have not yet seen, or heard about this controversial, and nonsensical, twist.

"I honestly don't think that viewing it alongside the comics would be appropriate or fair as I don't believe that is the intent."

I appreciate this sentiment, as I hear it all the time, but I would ask, if the movies shouldn't be compared to the source, then what should they be compared to? If I shouldn't compare Iron Man to Iron Man, then maybe they should have created a totally new IP instead of trying to garner sales off of an existing IP that they have no intention of honoring.

See, maybe it's me, but I find it disingenuous that these studios want to line their pockets with the box office sales of the fans of the source material that will undoubtedly flock to see these films, all the while holding them in disdain by saying that they don't matter. It's the broader audience they want. The audience that doesn't know the character intimately, and therefore doesn't care or notice inconsistencies, or even egregious treatments. That's fine. I find it curious though that the source material was popular enough to get a $300mil movie greenlit, yet they feel they need to change everything in order for it to be successful. Wouldn't that broader audience like the movie just as much if it stuck to the source material? Afterall, they don't know the characters intimately anyway, right? That's their rationale at least. Yet, if it was good enough, to make it popular enough, to make it into a movie, then it should be good enough for the broader audience as well, I'd think. Then, the broader audience likes it and the fans that made the movie possible for the broader audience to see a Marvel movie in the first place, don't feel alienated and shunned.

I just can't imagine a Harry Potter film that isn't made for fans of the book. Game of Thrones changes very little from "A Song of Ice and Fire", yet it's still one of the most popular shows on pay TV or otherwise.

Not taking issue with you or your review. I read all your reviews and enjoy them. I was just taken aback by the fact that you enjoyed the movie after reading that you were a fan of the Iron Man comic, as most people that I know of, in real life and in cyberspace, that read the comics, felt the opposite. Again, I get you on the as a kid thing, though.

Just providing another take. And venting I guess as well, lol.

Thanks for the response, and your time, and the reviews.

Greetings,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this Mike. It's a good read... smile.gif


Regards,
post #30 of 102
Watched my copy last night. I liked it in the theater, and liked it even more at home.
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