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post #31 of 260
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So the question is, is this a show I can jump right into without missing a lot of background? I seem to recall that that was the format of the show when it first premiered, each season was distinct from the others, that they were for the most part, self-contained.

There is no background. Depending on how it goes this season might not even take place on the same planet as last season. biggrin.gif

Each season is a completely new story and the only thing it has in common with the previous is that some of the cast return as new characters.
post #32 of 260
Only the same actors are sometimes used in the 3 seasons. Characters are all different. Each season is stand-alone....
post #33 of 260
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There is no background. Depending on how it goes this season might not even take place on the same planet as last season. biggrin.gif

Each season is a completely new story and the only thing it has in common with the previous is that some of the cast return as new characters.

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Only the same actors are sometimes used in the 3 seasons. Characters are all different. Each season is stand-alone....
Excellent! Thanks guys! smile.gif
post #34 of 260
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Excellent! Thanks guys! smile.gif

One more piece of advice: Don't bother with the second season. It's a mess. But the first season was fun and innovative. Here's hoping the third is more like the first.
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One more piece of advice: Don't bother with the second season. It's a mess. But the first season was fun and innovative. Here's hoping the third is more like the first.

Worse than some shows, better than others .. there are a few "worst than" that come to mind ..tongue.gif
post #36 of 260
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One more piece of advice: Don't bother with the second season. It's a mess. But the first season was fun and innovative. Here's hoping the third is more like the first.
I wasn't going to, I'll start right in with this new season, and then during the winter break maybe go back and watch the first season. I'll bypass the second, the older I get I find that my tolerance for shows of marginal quality is very low - sci-fi being the exception, I'll watch some truly awful stuff just because it's a genre I love, hoping that it gets better, most of the time it just gets worse! tongue.gif

Some great sci-fi that doesn't get much attention around here is Haven, it's an adaptation of a King novel(The Colorado Kid) like Under The Dome but is far superior in quality to that wretched offering. Season 4 started a few weeks ago, and the first 3 are available via Netflix streaming/discs.
post #37 of 260
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When I watched the first season of Haven it was definitely less annoying than Dome, but I found it deathly dull in character and setting. Has it actually become interesting now or is it still the same cast doing nothing in particular?

Murphy's stroke of genius with AHS was actually becoming a real mini series. No matter how bad the last season is it doesn't matter, since each season is a chance at reprieve. Going into the first season now and knowing the premise for the show will change how you view it. For everyone watching the initial run it became a real mystery how they were going to pull it together to keep the show going to season two after it ended.
Edited by VisionOn - 10/4/13 at 12:44pm
post #38 of 260
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When I watched the first season of Haven it was definitely less annoying than Dome, but I found it deathly dull in character and setting. Has it actually become interesting now or is it still the same cast doing nothing in particular?
The MotW is still the predominant episode style, but the last 2 seasons have focused far more on the overall arc with several episodes in a row dealing with that alone, the last part of last season being basically only that. I agree that the first season was a bit iffy, but I've come to enjoy seeing these characters, some of them really are characters, like the 2 newspaper guys who are actually a lot more interesting than they first appear. It's no Battlestar Galactica to be sure, but it's well worth an hour a week for 10-13 weeks per year. It's appointment TV for me, as soon as there's a 15 min buffer on the DVR I start watching.

It's sort of like The X Files/Fringe in a way, problem a week with over-arching mystery coursing through it.

Plus, it's filmed in an actual location in the real world, not some backlot in the San Fernando Valley or dusty ranch up in Saugus somewhere and that's a big plus in my book.

Haven (Lunenberg, Nova Scotia)


Edited by keenan - 10/4/13 at 2:13pm
post #39 of 260
Tonight!!

I got a lot of TV shows during the same time slot. Gotta DVR some and watch "Coven" live. I hope the introduction to the season is wild and crazy. Hopefully it leaves the viewers with saying "WTF?" tongue.gif
post #40 of 260
That's certainly what happened last year, and not in a good way. Hopefully they learned a lesson with the mess that was S2.
post #41 of 260
Hmmm. I must be one of the few that liked season two. Granted, not as good as season one, but there were still some great moments. Sophomore slump? Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the start of season three tonight!
post #42 of 260
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Hmmm. I must be one of the few that liked season two. Granted, not as good as season one, but there were still some great moments. Sophomore slump? Anyway, I'm really looking forward to the start of season three tonight!

While it may have dragged along at a few points, it was still a pretty good season .. better than a lot of the crap that's on the TV these days anyway ..
post #43 of 260
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That's certainly what happened last year, and not in a good way. Hopefully they learned a lesson with the mess that was S2.

That's harsh tongue.gif
post #44 of 260
WTF LOL
post #45 of 260
Very cool premier. She let her out of the grave! eek.gif
post #46 of 260
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They have a lot of brooms in the air again but they all felt more linked than the random assortment of ideas than last season. Also kind of bold to kill off Lily Rabe and Evan Peters in the first episode, although you can never tell if that's the case with this show. It would be gutsy to announce some actors are returning only to have them disposed of in the first episode. Part of me is expecting Evan Peters to come back as a zombie when The Secret Circle at Xavier's School for Gifted Witchery Craft get their act together.

I appreciated the Hogwarts reference, now they need to throw in some other sly acknowledgements of just how many books, movies and TV shows this season is pulling inspiration from. Especially if Lange and Bates get into a Death Becomes Her smackdown. wink.gif

Good start and quite funny in places.
post #47 of 260
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They have a lot of brooms in the air again but they all felt more linked than the random assortment of ideas than last season..

I agree. Lots of stuff going on.
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Also kind of bold to kill off Lily Rabe and Evan Peters in the first episode, although you can never tell if that's the case with this show. It would be gutsy to announce some actors are returning only to have them disposed of in the first episode. Part of me is expecting Evan Peters to come back as a zombie when The Secret Circle at Xavier's School for Gifted Witchery Craft get their act together.

Yeah, that was a bit weird. I love Lily Rabe, sorry to see her go during the first episode. Surely she'll come back! frown.gif
Yup, they might come "back from the dead" as a ghost, zombie, etc.
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I appreciated the Hogwarts reference, now they need to throw in some other sly acknowledgements of just how many books, movies and TV shows this season is pulling inspiration from. Especially if Lange and Bates get into a Death Becomes Her smackdown. wink.gif

I feel that. There was a lot of references from other series (I think.) I didn't understand most of them though tongue.gif
Hogwarts is from Harry Potter I guess. Ha
post #48 of 260
@MrRPMurphy 44s
Last night's premiere of COVEN is the highest rated AHS EVER! Thanks you guys. Xo
post #49 of 260
The brilliant C. S. Lewis said, regarding witches:

"[O]ne man said to me, 'Three hundred years ago people in England were putting witches to death. Was that what you call the Rule of Human Nature or Right Conduct?' But surely the reason we do not execute witches is that we do not believe there are such things. If we did -- if we really thought that there were people going about who had sold themselves to the devil and received supernatural powers from him in return and were using these powers to kill their neighbours or drive them mad or bring bad weather -- surely we would all agree that if anyone deserved the death penalty, then these filthy quislings did. There is no difference of moral principle here: the difference is simply about matter of fact. It may be a great advance in knowledge not to believe in witches: there is no moral advance in not executing them when you do not think they are there. You would not call a man humane for ceasing to set mousetraps if he did so because he believed there were no mice in the house."

I watched the premier episode of AHS: Coven, and Lewis' words were what came to mind.
post #50 of 260
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@MrRPMurphy 44s
Last night's premiere of COVEN is the highest rated AHS EVER! Thanks you guys. Xo

From the HOTP thread,
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Nielsen Overnights (Cable)
‘American Horror Story’ Scares Up Record Ratings For FX
By Lisa de Moraes, Deadline.com - Oct. 10, 2013

American Horror Story: Coven, aka Season 3 of Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk’s gleefully grisly FX anthology, opened with record-breaking crowds last night. About 5.54 million — and 3.87% of the country’s 18-49 year olds – tuned in to watch Kathy Bates give Jessica Lange a run for her scenery-chewing money as early 19th century New Orleans grand dame Madame LaLaurie who, when not leading society, kills time peeling the skin off the faces of her slaves, or turning them into minotaurs. It’s the most-watched telecast ever in the American Horror Story franchise — and, when Live+7 stats come around, stands a good chance of becoming the most-watched program in FX history. Add in last night’s repeats of the season debut and FX clocked nearly 8 million viewers and 5.4 million viewers aged 18-49.

Reboot has been very good to AHS. The FX anthology horror drama had ended its sophomore season with fewer viewers than its first season, which in a typical drama series, is not a good sign. Last season’s scarefest, American Horror Story: Asylum, opened with a completely different storyline and an average audience 2.3 million viewers (a 1.3 rating in the 18-49 demo) — 40% short of the franchise’s record-breaking first-season premiere crowd of 3.85 million, and 28% shy of the first-season ender’s 3.22 million. By the end of last season, especially 18- to 49-year-old viewers seemed to have grown weary of crazy nuns, insanity, gruesome medical experiments, and inmates who thought they were Anne Frank. In the adults 18-49 demo, last season’s finale was outstripped by Discovery’s Moonshiners (1.5 rating) and three repeats of The Big Bang Theory in cable syndication.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/american-horror-story-scares-up-record-ratings-for-fx/]
post #51 of 260
Very cool! Thanks for the posting, keenan.
post #52 of 260
There was lots to like with the initial episode of AHS: Coven, I (and my wife - the 13 yo is definitely not going to be watching with us) thought: Witches, witch hierarchies (I assume lots of "modern vs classic" or "young vs old" conflicts), telekinesis, "death by sex" (the psychological aspect of that can definitely be mined), powers of immortality (maybe?), voodoo, zombies (maybe? or something like a Frankenstein monster?), and will there be lots of "bitch ... err girl fights" between the witches and voodoo ladies?

I thought the best scene was digging up the Kathy Bates character, who is as fresh and awake as the morning she "died". smile.gif

Will all the males be bit players, slaves / prisoners, or regenerated from the dead? I may want to re-consider visiting New Orleans anytime soon.

I hope the writers keep this to an organized whole, with a fresh look at these classic themes (which is what I liked so much about S1).

Cliff
post #53 of 260
I had my doubts about the new season and had considered skipping it. Season Two was, to me, just too horrible, with no one to root for (to name but one of its many problems), and I really didn't care for the True Blood season that featured witches. But this set the premise up in an interesting way, Taissa Farmiga is a very talented young lady, and the supporting cast is really first rate. So I'm definitely interested in this season.
post #54 of 260
I thought it was a strong start but so was season two. I'm definitely interested and the biggest drawback to the episode was the commercial breaks taking you out of the show.
post #55 of 260
Looking forward to seeing Kathy Bates tonight. Wonder what havoc she'll do eek.gif
post #56 of 260
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So the dead did not stay dead very long and Zombie Kyle was re-animated and Lily Rabe came back as a Stevie Nicks superfan!

I enjoyed Bates this week and her scenes with Lange were fun. So is Kathy Bates a witch or just a regular person who tried to use magic and failed? She certainly didn't seem that powerful without her status and it seems the only ability she has is that she cannot die now.

But with the addition of modern day Angela Basset, the Minotaur and the husband guy I fear we are straying into the territory of too many characters again. It was already a full load last week and resurrecting even more characters feels like there will be too many to write good stories for. Just based on the second episode I was already losing interest in Sarah Paulson getting pregnant. Overall though I thought there was a lot of entertainment this week. From the Revenge of the Crocs to Louisiana Fried Chicken.

Is it just me or has the PQ taken a hit this year? The low-light scenes are all very dull and flat and the night scenes are very, very soft and not in an intentionally vaselined retro way either.
post #57 of 260
I loved it! smile.gif

Such a fast pace and so many good lines. I expected Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, and Angela Bassett to be awesome, but Gabourey Sidibe was great too!

The whole tie in with Stevie Nicks was done really well, she even had the look and outfits of Stevie.

Quotes:

"I grew up on white girl s..t, watching 'Charmed' and 'Sabrina the Teenage Cracker.' I didn't even know there were black witches."

"It's nice to see you doing so well here after all these years. Maybe in another century, you could have two s...hole salons."

(I'm still looking forward to some good scenes with Denis O'Hare, who was completely missing from season 2.)
post #58 of 260
Nice to see Kyle and Misty back from the dead. Gotta love Lily Rabe biggrin.gif
post #59 of 260
Marie Laveau's boyfriend/husband is an immortal minotaur. Kinda weird since she came to find him and was upset to see what Delphine did to him.

Somebody pointed out that Marie Lavaeu punished him for having sex with with the white girl in the start of episode 1.
post #60 of 260
Gabourey Sidibe was great too!

She's always good.
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