Originally Posted by MississippiMan
Here are the links:
And a bullet list:
- The example of a Fiber optic ceiling shown on the 1st page of the listed Thread is about as "Sh_ tty" looking as they come, so don't let that weigh in on any decision making.
- The need for "Charging" can become an issue if it's not done via "Built In Black Lights".....and without adequate charging, longevity of illumination is markedly limited.
- The Vendor does not sell kits....and does every installation himself, so scheduling is a must, and caters more to his availability, He has mentioned DIY, but so far I have not read of a single person having done so. I could be wrong though...but since the actual website mentions nothing at all about "sales", expect to have to have it done under contract.
- Specialized Room decor (Trays / Recessed Ceilings..), and any true "Sky Scene Mural" such as Clouds and/or other effects adds considerable cost. Just "Stars" is more affordable, but again, you have almost no leeway as far as ceiling color.
- A Fiber Optic Ceiling is ready to entertain when you want it to...at the flip of a switch...not 2-3 hours bof charging time.
- After having done a few, including some truly epic sized Fiber optics, I can attest to the work ethic required. But even as of late I learned some new tricks that can make it all easier. I just didn't learn them before hand going in...unfortunately.
I my opinion, if one is DIY'ing a Fiber Optic Star Field, it is an insane bargain, and much less than the painted variety. However in the reverse, it's comparable in cost, if not a bit more expensive then the paint. But figure in the need for adequate Black light Stands, the PITA aspect of storing / getting out and setting them up, or more importantly...the expense and effort of designing in permanent "Hidden" Black lighting, and suddenly Fiber Optics don't sound like the nightmare some would have them to be. And there is this...the new, Multi-Cell LED Lamps used in the Star-field Illuminator last 50,000 hours in continuous use....and run cool at 1/10th the cost of Black Light Tube / Lamp arrays.
All that said, the end "Painted" product, especially one with Clouds and color effects is extremely appealing. It is just a good idea to have all the skinny...the real "Pros & Cons" of both.
No, your thinking of high gain Metallic (...as in real metal...) Silver screens. "Passive" is the word description for such, and only a few TVs and PJs employ that technology.
Active systems require "Gain" at the screen surface due to the loss of lumen output that every display has when switching to 3D. That is a primary reason most Active-oriented 3D PJs have upped the lumen output, to compensate for said loss.
Silver Fire Screens all have positive gain, and they are "Silvery Gray"...not just .
Yes indeed, I did mean passive glasses not polarized for use with gray screens. I know all the variables surrounding high gain and three D, Angular vs reflective etc. . My biggest issue is not being able to preview materials, so I am trying to come to some
conclusions via member observations, in particular, comparisons to known products.
I have a CIH 2.35:1 screen it is 120" diagonal. Fantastic for 2D, dim for 3D. Since my current SI Solar 4K (1.37gain) reference screen is fixed I was considering a drop down electric motorized in a high gain angular reflective as my PJ is mounted
on the ceiling at top of screen height.
I'm looking at the DIY products just in case there is a screen paint process that is middle of the road and as thus I can go with one screen only. High gain normally equates to poorer contrast, blacks and color, I'm trying to get the best of both in a bat cave
environment only, don't care for showing movies with lights on at all.
The Star Ceiling painter you refer to I have been trying to reach for a year, he has never returned my call. I thought there may have been another person. My theater is finished, the ceiling painted in dark night sky blue ready for the glow paint process. I have
6, four foot black light tubes hidden in the sofett to charge the paint, all I need is the material and some guidance which I am more than willing to pay for. I'm in a remote community on the East coast of Canada, I doubt the painter will venture this far anyway .
So far I've had no luck reaching him, maybe that has changed now. I have a local visual arts college in my city and loads of artists around. I'd say I will likely work with one of those persons, we will just have to do plenty of research and some test boards before
tackling the ceiling.