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post #151 of 2683
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Originally Posted by *UFO* View Post

The blacks are for sure not anywhere near that of plasma, but they are good for being an LCD. Also, I advise against posting pictures like that because the picture will tell you nothing. It must be seen in person.

The blacks on my w850a TV is as black as if the TV is turned off in dim light. So I don't understand where your seeing this set where the blacks that fail to match a plasma. I would say the set may not be adjusted correctly or maybe the angle your viewing from.

Seeing the TV here at home actually looks better than the pictures I took of the screen. I am used to watching a great picture and the deep blacks for last 2 years on the top rated (in 2011) 55" Panasonic VT30 up to a month ago. I'm saying this w850a LED set here in my home has the same deep blacks as this plasma I had been watching. I have been watching this new set for a weeks worth of DVD's, blu-rays and regular TV programming. The TV is that good. Buy one and see for yourself and If you don't like it, then return it. I'm sure you know not to expect a LED set to perform very well outside it's normal viewing angle to the screen.

Don't buy direct from Sony as they charge you about $130 for a return freight shipment. Amazon and maybe Best Buy returns the sets for free within a 30 day window. (return policy) That's if you don't like the set's picture or you have some problem and decide to return it for a refund.

The set I have was sold by Amazon's own LEA group so I would think you could get a 100% full refund if you make some complaint about the picture quality. Six months ago I returned a 2013 Samsung small screen TV that I didn't like the picture on. I bought a Sanyo to replace it and it has a much better picture. Amazon fully credited my account once they received the TV.

Where did these guys go that bought two TV's from Best Buy maybe 5 years ago and returned the set they didn't like. Another I remember another that bought two TV's from Amazon to compare the pix quality, kept the best pix one then returned the other TV. I forget if they were any restocking fees back then. Only in a dim lit room like at some TV stores can you really have a good look at the picture. You still never know, sometimes the default setting may have been messed with.

My thoughts you being a gamer you may like a 55" screen size better and you already know the w900a set has the picture you like and includes the triluminos display. The price may be lower now that I read Sony has stopped making them. The downside would be the LED view viewing area.

Have you considered a good 60" or 65" plasma TV. I would suggest the panasonic ZT60 other than it's heavy, runs rather warm and like all plasma's it has the fast 600 hz picture. Panasonic really lowered their prices due to some failed sets this last year. Panny will be dropping their plasma sets in April 2014. One thing about a plasma you have a great picture, maybe not as bright as a led but always includes the deep blacks. Walking from steep angles to the screen the picture will still look great. The ZT60 and the VT60 may have the same picture quality. See the Panny site to make sure. I think the new one has the # 3000 in it's description. I don't know the input lag but the new 60 series set should include a fast quad processor.

I would not buy a panny plasma set unless I bought the square-trade 5-year warranty from Amazon, if that's where you buy the TV. The rule with Square-Trade is if your set can't be reparied even to the end of the 5 year warranty, they will refund your full purchase price. They give you 30 days to decide after the TV has shipped.
Edited by WhiteSands - 10/20/13 at 6:32am
post #152 of 2683
Updated on April 17, 2014

These are my Vivid and Standard settings I use to get the deep blacks on my set. I try to keep my set as close to the factory settings as I can. Make sure you do these first two settings in blue first.

Scene Selection, sets to General.....This prevents the TV from auto switching off of your Vivid or Standard settings.

Setting Memory, sets to Common....The settings will be used on all inputs like your blu-ray player and cable box.

PICTURE MODE - STANDARD

Do the Reset here, if you have changed these settings before. Then do these two settings below. All other Standard and Advanced settings are default.

Backlight, set to Max......This one step really brings up the picture quality and color.

Color Temperature - set to Neutral (that's it for standard)
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PICTURE MODE - VIVID only 3-settings below

Do the Reset again here if needed. All other Vivid settings are default.

Backlight...set this to 7.

Color, sets to 57

Sharpness, sets to 50 (your done, how easy is that)

whitesands

My older setting are not accurate posted below by ozark.
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Edited by WhiteSands - 4/17/14 at 9:26pm
post #153 of 2683
The dim corners/sides kind of bum me out but I have seen that on most edge lit led sets (including the W900a). I am going to BB today to take a look at their floor model to see what I think. Honestly I want this tv to work out because of the price matching deals I got. Paying less than $300 more than the W900a is an amazing deal in my book (and that's from the W900a's recent 2k price with tax included!). Had I payed retail plus tax I guess I could be more critical. I will report back once I take a look.
Edited by YOTR - 10/19/13 at 12:12pm
post #154 of 2683
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

Here again for the new Sony w850a set are my 2 easy to do personal settings that gave me a great picture with deep blacks. Start by pressing the white Options bar on the remote.

PICTURE ADJUSTMENTS

Picture Mode = VIVID

Backlight = max

Picture = max

Brightness = 50

Color = 60

Sharpness = 75

Next, press the bottom of the black donut ring down once on the remote to see the continuation of settings.

Color Temperature = Warm change this one to Cool to make perfect whites.

The Scene Select page is usually seen at the top of the list when you first press Options on the remote. Press to open and the start of the list should look like this below.

Change the selection to General which gave me a much brighter, clearer picture with the deep blacks I really like.

SCENE SELECT

Auto (24 Sync) default

General

I would like to hear if anyone making these 2 easy setting to their new sets and the results you see in your picture quality especially while watching a blu-ray movie. The blu-ray version of True Grit with John Wayne has some of the best picture quality and color I have ever seen so far from a movie disk.

Each to their own but......eek.gif
post #155 of 2683
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

The dim corners/sides kind of bum me out but I have seen that on most edge lit led sets (including the W900a). I am going to BB today to take a look at their floor model to see what I think. Honestly I want this tv to work out because of the price matching deals I got. Paying less than $300 more than the W900a is an amazing deal in my book (and that's from the W900a's recent 2k price with tax included!). Had I payed retail plus tax I guess I could be more critical. I will report back once I take a look.

I'm using the $300 price match by buying a 5-year extended warranty from square-trade. I will buy it from amazon where I bought the TV. Amazon's customer service told me if the set gives trouble call cust service and they would take car if it though square-trade people.

I will be watching some pro football games tomorrow and will look for the dim corners/sides. I have watched 3 blu-ray movies and they filled the screen fully. I have seen some dim corners only when I open the Opera browser which I will probably never use. Well that depends, if I can ever figure out how to get it off the Sony''s sales page. lol Even it's search engine comes up with more Sony pages to look at.
post #156 of 2683
I just saw the w850a and the w900a side by side at best buy. Now I'm really having a hard time choosing between the two. They both looked great but the 65" was just right in size. I want this tv for bluray and gaming on the ps4.
post #157 of 2683
Was there ever an answer on the real difference between the 900 and 850 - the "deep black panel" and whether it matters?

120 vs. 240hz probably won't matter to me, so I'm trying to find out what else is different.

I just stopped by some stores looking to see the 850, and I was told that they aren't going to have floor models - order only. So this is difficult.
post #158 of 2683
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

The dim corners/sides kind of bum me out but I have seen that on most edge lit led sets (including the W900a). I am going to BB today to take a look at their floor model to see what I think. Honestly I want this tv to work out because of the price matching deals I got. Paying less than $300 more than the W900a is an amazing deal in my book (and that's from the W900a's recent 2k price with tax included!). Had I payed retail plus tax I guess I could be more critical. I will report back once I take a look.

I was watching the Auburn/ Texas A&M game today where the sun was shining bright. I did notice a little edge shadowing on each side of the screen. It was more noticeable when the camera backed off and you could see the green grass of the playing field on the full screen. I tried changing the brightness levels that made no difference. I tried the Width button on the remote and that did not affect it. Evidently it's built into the panel that way. Even so the picture is vivid, with great sharpness and depth of field, best colors ever, including it's deep blacks.
Edited by WhiteSands - 10/20/13 at 11:44am
post #159 of 2683
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Originally Posted by gui3 View Post

Was there ever an answer on the real difference between the 900 and 850 - the "deep black panel" and whether it matters?

120 vs. 240hz probably won't matter to me, so I'm trying to find out what else is different.

I just stopped by some stores looking to see the 850, and I was told that they aren't going to have floor models - order only. So this is difficult.

If you know of any Best Buys with the Magnolia store inside, check there.

Not sure if the Deep Black Panel is in the 850, but to my eyes in the Magnolia store, if it's not a Deep Black Panel, it doesn't make much of a difference. But mentioned in the w900a thread, it might make a difference in a semi-lit or bright room because I believe the deep black panel is about filtering out ambiant room light going into the panel.
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

I was watching the Aurburn/ Texas A&M game today where the sun was shining bright. I did notice some slight edge shadowing on each side of the screen. It was more noticeable when the camera backed off and you could see the green grass of the playing field. I tried changing the brightness levels that made no difference. I tried the Width button on the remote and that also did not affect it. Evidently it's built into the panel that way. Even so the picture is vivid, great sharpness and depth of field, best colors ever with deep blacks. I'm fully sold on this set and the slight side shadows at times don't bother me. They are to many positives about this set, including it's large 65" picture.

Awesome you love the set WhiteSands! cool.gif The w850a is a great looking set that seems to have a lot going for it - colors, brightness, black level and size. I think it will make a lot of people happy. If it didn't have the slight vignetting on the left and right edges, I would definitely be sold on it for myself. But I wonder if I had the set, would I learn not to notice the vignetting -- like the noise of a refrigerator, or would it be a distraction and drive me crazy? redface.gif

For me, the search for the right TV continues.
post #160 of 2683
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

I was watching the Aurburn/ Texas A&M game today where the sun was shining bright. I did notice some slight edge shadowing on each side of the screen. It was more noticeable when the camera backed off and you could see the green grass of the playing field. I tried changing the brightness levels that made no difference. I tried the Width button on the remote and that also did not affect it. Evidently it's built into the panel that way. Even so the picture is vivid, great sharpness and depth of field, best colors ever with deep blacks. I'm fully sold on this set and the slight side shadows at times don't bother me. They are to many positives about this set, including it's large 65" picture.

Thanks for the post! I went to BB to take a look and the set looks really good but I admit the dimming edges is noticeable. I really don't want to drop down in size to the W900a but I guess that will be my backup option if the W850a doesn't work out. I won't have it wall mounted so technically a 55" will look as big as my old 60" (which was wall mounted) from my viewing distance now.

I know nothing is perfect so just trying to decide if I can live with the dimming since it looks like every W850a will have it. It's being delivered tomorrow morning but I might call amazon today to talk to them about the return procedure in case it is a deal breaker for me. I have seen corner/edge dimming on a lot of 65" or bigger sets though regardless of brand. I assume it's from how big the panel is and maybe the edge lit lights aren't powerful enough?
post #161 of 2683
I have seen multiple posts in the W900a thread about the same dimming corners/sides. So is it safe to say that even the W900a has the same issue as the W850a and it's just the nature of the edge lit tech? Amazon is delivering mine tomorrow morning so it's really to late to do any type of cancellation. I figure I will just try it out tomorrow night and if it's a big issue, I will call amazon to get the refund process started. If this dimming issue on the sides is normal though and not a defect, I would have to look for another model/brand if I can't live with it.
Edited by YOTR - 10/20/13 at 7:43pm
post #162 of 2683
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

I have seen multiple posts on the W900a thread about the same dimming corners/sides. So is it safe to say that even the W900a has the same issue as the W850a and it's just the nature of the edge lit tech? Amazon is delivering mine tomorrow morning so it's really to late to do any type of cancellation. I figure I will just try it out tomorrow night and if it's a big issue, I will call amazon to get the refund process started. If this dimming issue on the sides is normal though and not a defect, I would have to look for another model/brand if I can't deal with it.

When I compared the two sets side-by-side at Best Buy, the vignetting was noticeable on the 850a, but I didn't really notice it on the 900a. It might be on both sets, just more noticeable on the 850a? confused.gif

YOTR - I really hope you like your purchase and this isn't an issue for you! Just so you know what to look for, I caught of bit of this issue on the video below (again, sorry for iPhone quality, auto iris, compression, shaky, etc.). The 900a is on the bottom left, the 850a is bottom right. Look at the set on the bottom right at the end of the video when the truck slides around, you can clearly see the vignetting - especially top right edge of the TV's screen. This vignetting isn't really noticeable on the 850a, which is the bottom left TV.


Edited by DaverJ - 10/20/13 at 8:13pm
post #163 of 2683
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

When I compared the two sets side-by-side at Best Buy, the vignetting was noticeable on the 850a, but I didn't really notice it on the 900a. It might be on both sets, just more noticeable on the 850a? confused.gif

YOTR - I really hope you like your purchase and this isn't an issue for you! Just so you know what to look for, I caught of bit of this issue on the video below (again, sorry for iPhone quality, auto iris, compression, shaky, etc.). The 900a is on the bottom left, the 850a is bottom right. Look at the set on the bottom right at the end of the video when the truck slides around, you can clearly see the vignetting - especially top right edge of the TV's screen. This vignetting isn't really noticeable on the 850a, which is the bottom left TV.


Thanks for the video! I can definitely see it and that is what I saw at BB yesterday. I think I can see a slight dimming on the 900a but that might just be me (very minor). I will say the dimming on the 850 is very noticeable in that video. It looks worse than what I saw but the white screen also really brings it out.

Part of me wants to call Amazon in the morning but honestly at this point there isn't much I can do. Cevia will be here early in the morning for delivery so I guess I will roll the dice. If I see this type of dimming, I might be looking at the 900a despite the size difference. I don't want to pay the price for the close out FALD sets from Sony and Sharp (Elite tv), so it will be this one or the 900a most likely.

UPDATE: After looking at the video again, I don't think I see any dimming on the 900a set. Maybe I was focusing on the W850a picture to much after watching the video a few times. Well it looks like I will just hope for the best and see if it bothers me enough for a return. I was really excited about this set but I admit those pictures (and what I saw in the store myself) have me doubting my purchase.
Edited by YOTR - 10/20/13 at 8:47pm
post #164 of 2683
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

The blacks on my w850a TV is as black as if the TV is turned off in dim light. So I don't understand where your seeing this set where the blacks that fail to match a plasma. I would say the set may not be adjusted correctly or maybe the angle your viewing from.

Unless it's FALD LCD, none can match the black levels of a plasma.
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

Here again for the new Sony w850a set are my 2 easy to do personal settings that gave me a great picture with deep blacks. Start by pressing the white Options bar on the remote.

PICTURE ADJUSTMENTS

Picture Mode = VIVID

Backlight = max

Picture = max

Brightness = 50

Color = 60

Sharpness = 75

Next, press the bottom of the black donut ring down once on the remote to see the continuation of settings.

Color Temperature = Warm change this one to Cool to make perfect whites.

The Scene Select page is usually seen at the top of the list when you first press Options on the remote. Press to open and the start of the list should look like this below.

Change the selection to General which gave me a much brighter, clearer picture with the deep blacks I really like.

SCENE SELECT

Auto (24 Sync) default

General

I would like to hear if anyone making these 2 easy setting to their new sets and the results you see in your picture quality especially while watching a blu-ray movie. The blu-ray version of True Grit with John Wayne has some of the best picture quality and color I have ever seen so far from a movie disk.

No offense but these settings make for an incredibly inaccurate picture.
You may the only person on AVS that admits to liking Vivid mode.
Everyone likes different things though.
post #165 of 2683
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Originally Posted by dallow View Post

Unless it's FALD LCD, none can match the black levels of a plasma.
No offense but these settings make for an incredibly inaccurate picture.
You may the only person on AVS that admits to liking Vivid mode.
Everyone likes different things though.

With the older CRT and earlier flat panel sets I would have to run them on vivid to get enough brightness and I guess that became to much of a habit. Now with these new bright LEDs in this new set I will have to learn to use Scene Select settings to find one that looks good.
Edited by WhiteSands - 10/21/13 at 7:03am
post #166 of 2683
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

Your right, Vivid on this set is to bright when the Scene Selection is set to General.

I tried each of these Scene Selections, Auto, Auto (23p sync) General, Cinema, Sports, Music, Animation (new), Photo, Game or Graphics. These provide various levels of color, brightness and contrast presets making it easy to select a viewing quality you would like.

Edited by WhiteSands - 10/22/13 at 12:38am
post #167 of 2683
Possible Vignetta Fix:

This weekend I got rid of the vignetta lines on the sides of the screen. I found two TV ads while watching TV that show a short full white screen with some text in the middle area. Those were a Chevy, Ford and Dish ad during some football game. I used the skip back button till then play forward till I got to the white ad then paused the DVR on the white screen. I found a youtube video where this guy rubs a ice cold flat item up and slowly down the each side of the screen. On my set I could see the vignetta going away as I did this.

I did the left side of the screen Saturday night after watching the TV a couple hours to make sure it was warmed up good. I did not do the right side till Sunday night for comparison. I did this one time running the frozen cold soft cloth first placed on a flat TV dinner in the freezer. I went slowly up and down the front edge of the screen about 4 times till it looked completely gone. I repeated this again on the same side about 4 hours later.

I repeats this Sunday on the right side side of the screen. Now I want to let it run for a week, month or year and see if this is a permanent fix.

I decided to measured the heat from the edge lit LEDs. Each side half way up the screen averaged 86 degrees, 85 near the bottom. At the top right/left edge of the screen it read 89 degrees. I used a non-contact infrared thermometer with laser targeting. I was careful not to allow the red laser to shine onto the screen and only on the metal bezel. This was on a near all white screen and may be a few degrees less while watching normal TV show with normal type brightness.

This AVS video explains the Filter used with the edge lit LEDs in the Triluminos display and other advancements in Sony's IC technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yfJ4tnTme8 (no long available)

This is the vignetta fix below if you want to try it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuOzmpUKTEY
Edited by WhiteSands - 3/20/14 at 6:28pm
post #168 of 2683
Still waiting on delivery but decided to call amazon. I explained to them what I saw at the store and a few other people that have reported the dimming. She advised me to just take the top off and plug it in and test it. I have some old plasma break in slides on a USB stick and one of them is a white image. I should be able to see any dimming this way. Also by just removing the top of the box, the delivery people won't have to set everything up before I test. She said if I saw it, just refuse them and call back. Then they will credit me in 10 days. If I see the dimming, I think I'm moving on. Hoping for the best.
post #169 of 2683
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Still waiting on delivery but decided to call amazon. I explained to them what I saw at the store and a few other people that have reported the dimming. She advised me to just take the top off and plug it in and test it. I have some old plasma break in slides on a USB stick and one of them is a white image. I should be able to see any dimming this way. Also by just removing the top of the box, the delivery people won't have to set everything up before I test. She said if I saw it, just refuse them and call back. Then they will credit me in 10 days. If I see the dimming, I think I'm moving on. Hoping for the best.

Good luck YOTR - my fingers are crossed for you. Please let us know how it goes, and snap a pic if you feel up to it. It could help others who are on the fence.

Good idea on the slides thing, I hope the delivery guys give you enough time to figure out how to view pics from the USB input! redface.gif
post #170 of 2683
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Originally Posted by DaverJ View Post

Good luck YOTR - my fingers are crossed for you. Please let us know how it goes, and snap a pic if you feel up to it. It could help others who are on the fence.

Good idea on the slides thing, I hope the delivery guys give you enough time to figure out how to view pics from the USB input! redface.gif


That's what I am worried about. The amazon person said they should let me. If they don't I will refuse it and just call amazon for a refund. Plus I won't ask them to set it up (which is included in amazon delivery including attaching the stand). I will report back.
post #171 of 2683
Does anyone know if PCM will get new stock?
Edited by CPMD - 10/22/13 at 6:00am
post #172 of 2683
Okay so the delivery people let me plug it in and test it with the slides. I'm sad to report that even with a snowy screen (before I even attempted the slide check), I could see the darkened sides frown.gif. The slides made it more apparent. So this looks like how all of them will be. The corners were noticeable on this set also. I think each set will vary with the dimming but it looks like they all will have it. I can see where this wouldn't be a deal breaker for everyone but it was annoying for me just like it was at the store. The deal I got from amazon was great (and I thought about that for a second before refusing it) but honestly I expect the screen to be clean without any type of dimming. I know clouding and flash lighting are common with LCD's but I haven't seen this dimming on a lot of sets. If I have seen it, it's almost always been on the really big ones. I have seen this type of dimming on every single W850a I have seen in person and obviously the ones posted in this thread.

Amazon already submitted a refund which is great customer service but I am really bummed. As of right now, I am leaning towards the W900a even though it is smaller. With it being on a tv stand, the set will only be about 9 feet from my viewing distance.
post #173 of 2683
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Okay so the delivery people let me plug it in and test it with the slides. I'm sad to report that even with a snowy screen (before I even attempted the slide check), I could see the darkened sides frown.gif. The slides made it more apparent. So this looks like how all of them will be. The corners were noticeable on this set also. I think each set will vary with the dimming but it looks like they all will have it. I can see where this wouldn't be a deal breaker for everyone but it was annoying for me just like it was at the store. The deal I got from amazon was great (and I thought about that for a second before refusing it) but honestly I expect the screen to be clean without any type of dimming. I know clouding and flash lighting are common with LCD's but I haven't seen this dimming on a lot of sets. If I have seen it, it's almost always been on the really big ones. I have seen this type of dimming on every single W850a I have seen in person and obviously the ones posted in this thread.

Amazon already submitted a refund which is great customer service but I am really bummed. As of right now, I am leaning towards the W900a even though it is smaller. With it being on a tv stand, the set will only be about 9 feet from my viewing distance.

Just spring for the X900 smile.gif.. Good Luck.....
post #174 of 2683
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Originally Posted by ggw2000 View Post

Just spring for the X900 smile.gif.. Good Luck.....

I wish! I was actually trying to justify the X900 a few weeks ago. Loan me the money, lol smile.gif.
post #175 of 2683
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Okay so the delivery people let me plug it in and test it with the slides. I'm sad to report that even with a snowy screen (before I even attempted the slide check), I could see the darkened sides frown.gif. The slides made it more apparent. So this looks like how all of them will be. The corners were noticeable on this set also. I think each set will vary with the dimming but it looks like they all will have it. I can see where this wouldn't be a deal breaker for everyone but it was annoying for me just like it was at the store. The deal I got from amazon was great (and I thought about that for a second before refusing it) but honestly I expect the screen to be clean without any type of dimming. I know clouding and flash lighting are common with LCD's but I haven't seen this dimming on a lot of sets. If I have seen it, it's almost always been on the really big ones. I have seen this type of dimming on every single W850a I have seen in person and obviously the ones posted in this thread.

Amazon already submitted a refund which is great customer service but I am really bummed. As of right now, I am leaning towards the W900a even though it is smaller. With it being on a tv stand, the set will only be about 9 feet from my viewing distance.

Its really frustrating not to be able to find a TV that meets expectations (especially at this price).. This is my 3rd set and third brand, but I think im finally content. The vignette doesn't bother me much, screen uniformity and clouding are so much more noticeable on movies and tv (day to day stuff); the vignette I notice only on bright white scenes. Something I have noticed is as the TV warms up it gets better, right after turning it on its more apparent (are my eyes fooling me or can this be the case - *any engineers out there).
post #176 of 2683
I took another picture of my set using a test disk. This is after the fix.

post #177 of 2683
Whitesands; thanks for all the info and pics. I am a old fighter jock and one thing I learned is not to look too hard at your jet or you may not get to fly that sortie. I know its easy to look for flaws when its your HDTV and its not perfect(none are). Just don't let perfect be the death of excellent. So far your set appears to be an excellent display and the times you notice the edges will be few and far between. Enjoy your set and beautiful Whitesands. I miss the Cloudcroft. area.Many happy days at Sandia and Alamagorda. Again thanks and keep the info flowing. I will let you know how my set behaves in a few weeks!!
post #178 of 2683
Finally got my set. Below are some pics. The tv has dark sides. Seems this is normal for a local dimming set? This is my first led tv. Got to say that fn8500 spoiled me. The colors on this set are nice and black levels are decent .. Guess I need to get used to the LCD look. Really looking forward to some calibrated settings.

Also. I will add.... Using my pc the mouse has very low input lag. I don't have a way to measure; bit definitely more responsive than the plasma. I have also not noticed any blooming and flash lighting. The phone tends to catch more light on the pics.
Viewing angle is good too!







on this one i didnt see anyblooming around the red letters. the phone captured it. i turned off all the lights


Edited by Cg006 - 10/21/13 at 6:50pm
post #179 of 2683
Here's one more. Took it with the iPhone. The others i took with iPad mini.
All lights off.....captured entire screen. You do see the side a little bit light with your eyes in complete darkness ...
post #180 of 2683
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Originally Posted by jetjocky View Post

Whitesands; thanks for all the info and pics. I am a old fighter jock and one thing I learned is not to look too hard at your jet or you may not get to fly that sortie. I know its easy to look for flaws when its your HDTV and its not perfect(none are). Just don't let perfect be the death of excellent. So far your set appears to be an excellent display and the times you notice the edges will be few and far between. Enjoy your set and beautiful Whitesands. I miss the Cloudcroft. area. Many happy days at Sandia and Alamogordo. Again thanks and keep the info flowing. I will let you know how my set behaves in a few weeks!!

Thanks jetjocky, yes this is a great place to live. It's usually sunny blue skies everyday and it seldom rains. It's really something to hear the house shake and the deafening noise when the F-22's from Holloman AFB break the sound barrier around here.. Would be nice if they could somehow warn us in advance. Some months its terrible other months you never hear them.
Edited by WhiteSands - 10/22/13 at 7:39am
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