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post #961 of 2591
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Any of you guys had a chance to look at this up against a 2013 F8000 Samsung 65" LED? They look real tight reading the Cnet reviews.

I spent a lot of time comparing those two TV's and found the W850A colors and blacks to be significantly better than the F8000.  I also found the off angle viewing of the W850A to be better than the F8000.  Overall, I thought the F8000 was a bit of a disappointment given the price and the top LCD review from cnet.  Then again about the only Samsung I have seen that impressed me was the F8500 plasma set and it doesn't look as good as the Panasonic plasmas but it's still a very nice TV.

post #962 of 2591
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Is there a way to change the picture settings in the Netflix app?

Also, I am in the standard mode and the picture still seems like I am lacking some detail and clarity. As an example. Peoples faces. Faces seem to be just one color with no detail. Having said that I am coming from a 42in TV. Could this be the reason why details are lacking? I have not watched a Blu ray yet. Hope to do that this weekend. I have DirecTV so the source should not be an issue. Almost all settings are default on standard except backlight is turned up. I think that's it. If anyone has any suggestions I would really appreciate it. Thanks.



I took delivery I the 65W850a about 3.5 weeks ago and when I first got it the picture seemed fine but over time it seems to be soft/out of focus on some scenes including faces (cable and Blu-ray). I attempted to adjust settings and it really does not fix the problem. I have the sharpness up but I cannot go any further or I get a grainy picture. I am beginning to think that maybe it is lot related. My manufacture build date is sept 2013 and serial number 6003061. Please if you would share your build date info so we can compare since we may have a similar problem. Thank you.
post #963 of 2591
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Worked perfect. Thanks

I can set my picture modes using, Home/ Settings or Options when streaming a Netflix movie. I see now you must be talking about when playing a Netflix disk in your player and you got that figured out.
post #964 of 2591
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Originally Posted by skriefal View Post

Is the "power on" hours counter visible anywhere? Service menu, hidden menu, etc? The LG 60PA6500 in my family room has this, and it would be nice to have something similar on the W850A.

How many times you have turned on your TV and the many hours is had run is located at the bottom of the Service Mode. I can get into it on my year old Bravia sets but not this new one. I may call a Service Center soon and see if they will tell me.

Here is how to get open the other Sony sets Service Mode.

With the TV turned off using the remote. Press Display, 5, +Volume, then Power.

Sometimes you have to start over with the TV off a few times to get it to open. The Service Mode should show the panel number your TV uses so you can sometimes see who made the panel.

Remember, so far this sequence don't work on our new W850a sets. Give it a try if you want..
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Edited by WhiteSands - 1/31/14 at 8:54pm
post #965 of 2591
Does anyone not use the motionflow feature. I feel like not using it gives more clarity and details. Any one else agree or am I just on another planet?
post #966 of 2591
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Originally Posted by acermen1212 View Post

I took delivery I the 65W850a about 3.5 weeks ago and when I first got it the picture seemed fine but over time it seems to be soft/out of focus on some scenes including faces (cable and Blu-ray). I attempted to adjust settings and it really does not fix the problem. I have the sharpness up but I cannot go any further or I get a grainy picture. I am beginning to think that maybe it is lot related. My manufacture build date is sept 2013 and serial number 6003061. Please if you would share your build date info so we can compare since we may have a similar problem. Thank you.

Mine is a little older, build date Sept 2013 but my serial number is 6002205.

Just a possibility you need to re-seat all your HDMI cables and may have a bad one. I would swap them around and see if that helps. I use HDMI-1 for my dish receiver. You might try Resetting picture mode, Standard and see if that helps. You can move the backlight setting up to Max to get a better picture.

Compare you picture now then try playing a blu-ray movie while in the Standard picture mode for comparison.
post #967 of 2591
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Does anyone not use the motionflow feature. I feel like not using it gives more clarity and details. Any one else agree or am I just on another planet?

Many feel the same way. I prefer my Standard and Vivid set to default on Motonflow and the settings just above and below it.

These settings seem to give me the best performance during fast paced football games.

Smooth Gradation, Low

Motionflow, Standard

Cine Motion, Auto
post #968 of 2591
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

Many feel the same way. I prefer my Standard and Vivid set to default on Motonflow and the settings just above and below it.

These settings seem to give me the best performance during fast paced football games.

Smooth Gradation, Low

Motionflow, Standard

Cine Motion, Auto

Thanks. I think I'm going to try it off for a bit and watch some shows.
post #969 of 2591
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

I can set my picture modes using, Home/ Settings or Options when streaming a Netflix movie. I see now you must be talking about when playing a Netflix disk in your player and you got that figured out.

No I'm talking about the app. I can't access the options when watching a movie. If I hit home it takes me out of Netflix to change.
post #970 of 2591
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

No I'm talking about the app. I can't access the options when watching a movie. If I hit home it takes me out of Netflix to change.

I was using the Netflix app (streming) when I opened both the options and home settings while steaming a movie. When I use the red Netflix button on the remote next to the Select button. Then the options won't work but I can get to the picture adjustments by using the Home button.
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Edited by WhiteSands - 2/1/14 at 12:36am
post #971 of 2591
Here is another screen shot from my TV screen. If you brighten up your monitor you can see more how the picture really looks on my set. The small amount of grain in the blue sky is actually from the original picture.

post #972 of 2591
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

Here is how to get open the other Sony sets Service Mode.

With the TV turned off using the remote. Press Display, 5, +Volume, then Power.

Sometimes you have to start over with the TV off a few times to get it to open. The Service Mode should show the panel number your TV uses so you can sometimes see who made the panel.

Remember, so far this sequence don't work on our new W850a sets. Give it a try if you want..
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Yes it does. I've done it. It took a few tries before I got the timing right.

post #973 of 2591
I decided to go ahead and order this tv last night from amazon,also want to thank white sands for his help and pm's.
post #974 of 2591
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I decided to go ahead and order this tv last night from amazon,also want to thank white sands for his help and pm's.

I agree, Whitesands deserves our thanks for tirelessly trying to help guys troubleshoot any issues they might have with their sets, posting great stills of his TV, and sharing his favorite settings that he's been tweaking ever since he got his W850A last year.  He's a very helpful member of the forum and an all around good guy!

post #975 of 2591
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Originally Posted by JackBurton1986 View Post

I agree, Whitesands deserves our thanks for tirelessly trying to help guys troubleshoot any issues they might have with their sets, posting great stills of his TV, and sharing his favorite settings that he's been tweaking ever since he got his W850A last year.  He's a very helpful member of the forum and an all around good guy!
I agree. He has gone into great detail in answering my PMs. Thanks whitesands!
post #976 of 2591
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

I was using the Netflix app (streming) when I opened both the options and home settings while steaming a movie. When I use the red Netflix button on the remote next to the Select button. Then the options won't work but I can get to the picture adjustments by using the Home button.
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When you go to the picture settings by using the Home button, what does the input say at the top? Is it "Internet (Video)"?
post #977 of 2591
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Originally Posted by evoll88 View Post

I decided to go ahead and order this tv last night from amazon,also want to thank white sands for his help and pm's.


Agree. WhiteSands is awesome.

post #978 of 2591
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

I was using the Netflix app (streming) when I opened both the options and home settings while steaming a movie. When I use the red Netflix button on the remote next to the Select button. Then the options won't work but I can get to the picture adjustments by using the Home button.
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Hmm that's weird. I can't. Oh well not a big deal. I get such a better picture when using Netflix. I use the same settings it doesn't look as good. Weird
post #979 of 2591
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

How many times you have turned on your TV and the many hours is had run is located at the bottom of the Service Mode. I can get into it on my year old Bravia sets but not this new one. I may call a Service Center soon and see if they will tell me.

Here is how to get open the other Sony sets Service Mode.

With the TV turned off using the remote. Press Display, 5, +Volume, then Power.

Sometimes you have to start over with the TV off a few times to get it to open. The Service Mode should show the panel number your TV uses so you can sometimes see who made the panel.

Remember, so far this sequence don't work on our new W850a sets. Give it a try if you want..
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Thanks. Worked for me, first time. But there is nothing in the menu that would appear to be a power on or hours counter. Perhaps it was removed.
post #980 of 2591
Thanks to all of you for your Thanking me. I'm glad to help anyway I can. This W850 is a great TV with It's fast 2.2 ghz quad PRO Processor and with a few setting changes the picture and color looks really great.

I really enjoy helping all of you best I can by PM and here in the Forums.

whitesands
post #981 of 2591

fwit my serial number is 6003192 and see no probs.here a pic of my TV in its new home.the light in the middle is my camera flash, not a defect.

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Double Post
Edited by WhiteSands - 2/1/14 at 11:26am
post #983 of 2591
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Originally Posted by WhiteSands View Post

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Originally Posted by Kaputnick View Post

fwit my serial number is 6003192 and see no probs. here a pic of my TV in its new home.the light in the middle is my camera flash, not a defect.

Good picture and love those tall stereo speakers looks to be as tall as your TV. Bet they really sound good.
Your serial # is really close to mine, 6003061 and no problems with mine.

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Edited by WhiteSands - 2/1/14 at 11:49am
post #984 of 2591
Well....this tv is still leaving me perplexed about its lack of detail and clarity on my DirecTV. I went and watched a scene on my 5 year old LCD and noticed it to have more details. Specifically in the face. Netflix is really good in details. DirecTV is not. Again, it is like things are just not sharp. Looks dull. I have been able to fix everything on this TV except for this issue. Very weird and disappointing. I did not notice this on my f7100 before I returned it however, I was already checked out because of the horrible flash lighting and clouding.

P.S I have switched HDMI cables and ports to try to see if this was the issue but didn't work. just seem tobe missing the crispness of the picture.
Edited by Thelt2000x - 2/1/14 at 12:22pm
post #985 of 2591
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Well....this tv is still leaving me perplexed about its lack of detail and clarity on my DirecTV. I went and watched a scene on my 5 year old LCD and noticed it to have more details. Specifically in the face. Netflix is really good in details. DirecTV is not. Again, it is like things are just not sharp. Looks dull. I have been able to fix everything on this TV except for this issue. Very weird and disappointing. I did not notice this on my f7100 before I returned it however, I was already checked out because of the horrible flash lighting and clouding.

P.S I have switched HDMI cables and ports to try to see if this was the issue but didn't work. just seem to be missing the crispness of the picture.

Try calling Direct TV and ask how to make sure your receiver is set up for HD and 1080i. Ask Direct is they are any other settings that would increase your picture quality.

If your in a large city with local off-air TV stations you can use a cheap indoor TV antenna and add your local DTV channels. This would be a good way to compare a off-air signal to your Direct TV receiver.

It's usually hard to compare a smaller TV picture to one the size of this 65" set as it is easier to see anything less than a good picture on a big screen TV.
post #986 of 2591
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Well....this tv is still leaving me perplexed about its lack of detail and clarity on my DirecTV. I went and watched a scene on my 5 year old LCD and noticed it to have more details. Specifically in the face. Netflix is really good in details. DirecTV is not. Again, it is like things are just not sharp. Looks dull. I have been able to fix everything on this TV except for this issue. Very weird and disappointing. I did not notice this on my f7100 before I returned it however, I was already checked out because of the horrible flash lighting and clouding.

P.S I have switched HDMI cables and ports to try to see if this was the issue but didn't work. just seem tobe missing the crispness of the picture.


I don't pretend to know everything about this TV - too new to me. I do suggest you try this. Go to a good source where you like the look. While there go to picture settings and list what they are, including advanced. Then go to DirectTV and while there go to picture setting and see if they are different to the ones you listed while on the good source.

post #987 of 2591
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Originally Posted by Thelt2000x View Post

Well....this tv is still leaving me perplexed about its lack of detail and clarity on my DirecTV. I went and watched a scene on my 5 year old LCD and noticed it to have more details. Specifically in the face. Netflix is really good in details. DirecTV is not. Again, it is like things are just not sharp. Looks dull. I have been able to fix everything on this TV except for this issue. Very weird and disappointing. I did not notice this on my f7100 before I returned it however, I was already checked out because of the horrible flash lighting and clouding.

P.S I have switched HDMI cables and ports to try to see if this was the issue but didn't work. just seem tobe missing the crispness of the picture.
One other thing that may or may not be messing with your directv is to make sure its not on any zoom mode. My uncle kept saying his tv didn't look good in hd and I noticed he had zoom mode enabled so I put it in normal mode and it looks great now.
post #988 of 2591
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Originally Posted by lleader View Post


I don't pretend to know everything about this TV - too new to me. I do suggest you try this. Go to a good source where you like the look. While there go to picture settings and list what they are, including advanced. Then go to DirectTV and while there go to picture setting and see if they are different to the ones you listed while on the good source.

Thanks for the reply. I did this with my Netflix settings. Love the way Netflix looks. Used same settings and it didn't work
post #989 of 2591
Does anyone else have or notice this problem? Is it possible that my panel my be defective?
post #990 of 2591
I got my 65W850A about three weeks ago now and all is well. Very good picture out of the box. I use General, Standard and the only thing turned off is Live Color. I view my TV from about 15' and the very slight edge shadows left and right cannot be seen unless on 100% white.

I do not see the need to fully calibrate this set, but I did check a few avsforum calibration images for white and black clipping. In the darkened room that I have, I am satisfied with things as they are.

Of course, I came from a 2000 Toshiba 61" 4:3 1st generation HD TV that just would not die - that took me about a month to calibrate to my liking. So now I am sort of up to date, having changed my AVR and DVD player to 7.2 and 3D respectively. Watched Life of PI in 3D, very nice and much better than what I have seen up to now. I tried the simulated 3D as well, not bad, but not for everyday use.

I wanted to post a link to Demo world: http://www.demo-world.eu/trailers/

You can download trailers for 2d/3d HD (1080p), that were used by various TV companies at previous shows. These trailers could be used to compare what we all see. The files are in RAR format and many are in a few parts. After you unRAR them, put them on a USB key and play them from there on your TV port.

If you want to check your sound system, download some of the Dolby/DTS/THX demos. These are very short, but very good quality surround sound. Note that both ARC and Optical return can carry 5.1 audio, but neither can do 7.1, at least not from the USB port.

Have Fun and don't become a couch potato. smile.gif
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