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post #31 of 87
My S9 is supposed to arrive "any day now" from Magnolia, very excited to read your post. I read somewhere that the blue subpixel is larger than the red and green to address the imbalance? Did you notice that? I too am concerned about performance over time...
post #32 of 87
55" OLED - Need Flat Panel
70" + - Curved would probably work out OK.
30fL on OLED OK, versus 40fL on LED/LCD?
post #33 of 87
I am amazed that you were able to get one from BB at all! I had ordered one from a NJ store after seeing the only one on display in the NY/NJ area, in Paramus NJ. It was ordered on Labor Day and finally we had to cancel the order do to a bunch of lies being fed to us from BB. They kept promising delivery but then it always got pushed back until they admitted they actually didn't even have a clue as to when one would be available. The customer service was horrible and we even dealt with corporate. Finally it was re-ordered through another dealer in NY and I am now waiting for deliver either later today or tomorrow.
- Scott B
post #34 of 87
I ordered mine through a BB in Hartsdale NY and they promised delivery by October 14th. If it's not here by then I will cancel the order and hold off till Black Friday.
post #35 of 87
With the ability to go full black, it will be interesting to see how well the Digital Video Essentials disc handles HD setup.
post #36 of 87
People who are buyers are blown away by the PQ. They don't give a darn about the slight curve.
post #37 of 87
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Originally Posted by Pres2play View Post

People who are buyers are blown away by the PQ. They don't give a darn about the slight curve.

I'm curious where you get to this conclusion from. Is there an owners thread somewhere where people are sharing experiences like this?
post #38 of 87
Fair enough...the curved screen was not a factor in MY decision to buy.
post #39 of 87
Someone has to be an early adopter of new tech - and it was the same when plasma first came out and will be the same with Sony's 'crystal LED' if that prototype tech ever sees the light of day.

It's these brave souls that help manufacturers by forking out not an insignificant sum of money for a new technology that will help engineers/designers iron out anything that will need ironing out for the next/future generations of the technology. Like testers but testers who have to pay to test lol. Such is life.

It's a help to us all when all said and done when we eventually buy into it ourselves somewhere down the road.

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Edited by Stu03 - 9/24/13 at 12:22pm
post #40 of 87
I do recall when a 42" EDTV plasma was a cool $15k and a 50" $20, but that ws before there were any flat panels at all, still..... THat was a ton of money.
post #41 of 87
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Originally Posted by Pres2play View Post

Fair enough...the curved screen was not a factor in MY decision to buy.

I'll bet you'd make a really good first person to start that owners thread wink.gif
post #42 of 87
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Originally Posted by SeattleStarGazer View Post

My S9 is supposed to arrive "any day now" from Magnolia, very excited to read your post. I read somewhere that the blue subpixel is larger than the red and green to address the imbalance? Did you notice that? I too am concerned about performance over time...
The Samsung KN55S9S blue sub-pixel is twice the size of the red and green ones as you can see in this pick.
Created with GIMP
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Blue OLED compounds are the most susceptible to aging and have a 50% drop in brightness in about 14.000 hours. The drop in brightness of blue OLEDs happens much faster than red and green OLEDs which causes color balance issues as OLED displays age. To combat this, many OLED displays drive the blue OLEDs at higher brightness making images appear washed out in a new display. OLED displays also make blue pixels larger to make them appear brigher and slow apparent degradation of the blue OLEDs.
post #43 of 87
I thanks Leo Laporte because at this time I can afford all of these gadgets. I was a trouble maker and never thought about going to school and none of that until I started watching Leo in TechTv. He teach how cool computer were and I started to get into it.
post #44 of 87
I would love to see how the motion blur is on this model of OLED --
Are you able to read the map labels on this OLED HDTV when viewing the TestUFO Panning Map Test at 960 pixels/second (in Game/PC mode)?

www.testufo.com/#test=photo&photo=toronto-map.png

Very few display pass this test.
post #45 of 87
Thanks Scott! I have mixed feelings on OLED because it's a new technology and as of right now probably won't be too reliable. Remember LCD had input lag at first but now it's unnoticeable (to me), happens with all new technology. Once the panels get better lag will go down.

What I don't get is why the hell did Samsung go with a curved screen? It's funny how TV manufactures are still pushing 3d tongue.gif . I wonder why game mode reduced the lag, doesn't turning off all image processing give the least amount of lag? It does for my sammy LCD. Wierd.

Thanks again Scott.
post #46 of 87
Scott, the frames on the outside appear to extend well forward of the screen. Can you see the frame at all in a darkened room when the TV is on? I don't mind the curvature of the screen, but I don't think I'd like to see the frame illuminated.
post #47 of 87
Scott ? what do you use or rather shall I say what would you prefer to use to watch most of your multimedia , movies, TV on a projector ? or a fancy dancy TV ?

If you do or not what would you use if you have or had a dedicated theater room for it ? a projector or a TV ?

Now let's look farther into the future.

Let's say future UDTVs with OLED were at the range of 100 inches or so or more and both techs were future improved with UD and costs were about the same, which would you choose ?
post #48 of 87
Scott,

Thanks for posting. I listened to the podcast this morning as well. It was helpful hearing you and Robert work through the setup sequence along with the selections you made regarding cell light level, sharpness, brightness, contrast and various video processing alternatives. I did not realize that the native color setting on my Samsung Plasma was likely sub optimal and that auto produced what the producer intended. This was not made clear in the TV manual.
post #49 of 87
If the goal is to see what the director intended, shouldn't we be watching with projection only? The cinematic look and the light output from an image projected onto a screen is different from a fixed panel display. Just saying.
post #50 of 87
Scott, please comment asap, we look forward to the answers.
post #51 of 87
Thank You! Scott.
post #52 of 87
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Originally Posted by Orbitron 
If the goal is to see what the director intended, shouldn't we be watching with projection only? The cinematic look and the light output from an image projected onto a screen is different from a fixed panel display. Just saying.
Scorsese:
'dispite the fact that the cinema going experience can never be fully recreated, blu-ray is the closest home theatre has ever gotten. It marks the very best quality picture and sound. Visual clarity is so strong; it's all encompassing, almost 3D. As for the audio, he recently remarked while mixing 'Shine A Light' that he was excited to know that what he and his team mixed, would transfer exactly to the home.'
Edited by 8mile13 - 9/26/13 at 6:05am
post #53 of 87
For those who watched the podcast, do you recall how much they readjusted black level between 0 apl pluge pattern and the Dark Night scene with the black windows on the building?
post #54 of 87
That really is a great looking calibration without too much work being needed as out of the box wasn't that bad.

Would love to sit down and play with one of those.

Holding out for 65+ in the 7k range until gonna pass until that size and price range come into view...I'd bite (hear that samsung, make it happen lol)

Curious as to what patterns you used? I assume field / full screen patterns? Or Windows? Size and amplitude? APL?

Sorry for the questions just curious.
post #55 of 87
Did I just imagine it or aren't the Samsung OLEDs calibrated at the factory?

That might explain why it wasn't much off.
post #56 of 87
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Did I just imagine it or aren't the Samsung OLEDs calibrated at the factory?

That might explain why it wasn't much off.
That was the case with the curved LG OLED according DisplayMate
'the TV is so well calibrated that ''OLED Brightness'' and Color (saturation) are the only two that should be adjusted based on individual viewer preference'

At VElectronics you can get a Samsung KN55S9 OLED TV Cal Day, Cal Night & 3D calibration in 4 HDMI inputs by Kevin Miller or D-Nice. That will cost you $99 so it seems that they are not calibrated at the factory.
post #57 of 87
Frankly, given the cost of the set and the small numbers being made, they should all be calibrated at the factory.
post #58 of 87
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Originally Posted by 8mile13 View Post

That was the case with the curved LG OLED according DisplayMate
'the TV is so well calibrated that ''OLED Brightness'' and Color (saturation) are the only two that should be adjusted based on individual viewer preference'

At VElectronics you can get a Samsung KN55S9 OLED TV Cal Day, Cal Night & 3D calibration in 4 HDMI inputs by Kevin Miller or D-Nice. That will cost you $99 so it seems that they are not calibrated at the factory.

$99 is a great offer, but the S9 is still not on display at VE, so I doubt they know for sure. BTW, I have visited the store and Robert Zohn is a fantastic person!
post #59 of 87
I have been waiting to check it out at Robert's store but he needs to be able to get one first, at least one he can actually unbox and display rather than ship out right away.
post #60 of 87
They are both still pretty much custom order. Usually you get them in 2-3 weeks after placing an order. They have probably move less than thousand units worldwide since they both "launched".
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