Originally Posted by arnyk
Originally Posted by jim19611961
If you could hear the difference between a room taken all the way vs one with bandaid fixes, you would understand the reasons for the fussing
BTW I don't disagree with the idea that room acoustics done right is far better than a poor job. Thing is, some people scare easily and turning it into rocket science keeps good things from happening.
Yes, I can bear witness to this. I know Jim from other threads and he has been very helpful to me in various ways - but Jim is a 100% balls-out acoustician and, as such, he knows a hell of a lot and seeks the nth degree of performance 100% of the time. That is, IMO, a good thing, especially when the experience gained can be put to good use helping others.
But I agree with you too. For a long, long time I was put off from trying treatments by the apparent complexity of it all and by the apparently huge amount of knowledge needed. I looked at the acoustics threads on AVS and most of it was over my head. Worse, every expert seemed to disagree with every other expert. I just gave up. But I always wanted to have a go, and one day, that's just what I did. I looked at the videos on the GIK and Realtraps sites and they seemed to make it look easy. So I plunged in and bought a load of panels. At the time I didn’thave REW to help me or anything so I just placed the panels roughly the same way they were placed in the videos. POW! I turned on the system and was blown away. Imaging was incredibly better, bass was much tighter and the overall sound was the best I had heard in my room.
It inspired me to find out more, so I joined the REW thread, got a mic, learnt how to use REW, started measuring, bought F. Alton Everest's book, read it, even understood some of it, took loads of advice from people on AVS and gradually, my room got better and better and better. Today I have a flat FR +/- 3dB from 20Hz to 20kHz and my waterfalls and ETCs look great too.
So yes, I agree with you that people should just jump in. Buy some treatments and place them as they show you on the sites where you bought them. Then, if you want to really optimise your SQ, follow Jim's advice, delve deeper and improve your room to the nth degree too.
EDIT: BTW, Jim's thread is a mine of useful information. But if you look at his room, one suspects that WAF is not a huge factor for him ;)
Edited by kbarnes701 - 10/1/13 at 8:09am