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post #61 of 354
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post


AMD card is straightforward to set up (23.976Hz, switching between full and limited RGB, stereoscopic 3D all work instantly as they should). NVIDIA card needs lots of tweaks (that's why I prefer AMD).

The 3D switching is a clear issue with nVidia that probably would be a deal breaker if 3D is important. It does not bother me because I have only 3 3D Blu-rays smile.gif.

No signs of nVidia planning to fix it either. frown.gif
post #62 of 354
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I own one 3D movie, but it was only because it was cheaper than a non-3D version (and it included the 2D version. Odd, but whatever.). Oh, I also don't have a 3D emitter or 3D glasses, because I don't really care about 3D and my family greatly could care less. My wife hates it.
So 3D isn't a concern.
post #63 of 354
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

I own one 3D movie, but it was only because it was cheaper than a non-3D version (and it included the 2D version. Odd, but whatever.). Oh, I also don't have a 3D emitter or 3D glasses, because I don't really care about 3D and my family greatly could care less. My wife hates it.
So 3D isn't a concern.

Side note:

I saw the new Metallica Movie at IMAX this weekend in 3D. HOLY COW !

It was awesome. The sound was F-n incredible. 3D was pretty cool too.
post #64 of 354
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I started getting some HTPC parts coming.

8GB G.Skill DDR3-2400 RAM
Silverstone SST-LC10B-E-USB3.0 Case
SeaSonic G class 550W 80 PLUS Gold PSU (I know, a little more than I need)
Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-Ray drive

mobo/cpu/SSD will come next week from Micro Center when I am traveling. Looking at a nice price for a i5-4670K which is actually cheaper than the "non-K" version I was going to get.

Video card is still up in the air, but I am going to start with this stuff and see where it leads me. I almost picked up an ASUS Radeon HD 7790 1GB card tonight, but it wasn't on sale, so I will wait and see what happens.

**EDIT: Screw it. I ordered the GPU as well.
Edited by nickbuol - 9/30/13 at 11:08pm
post #65 of 354
Just a heads up - I had some issues with slow ripping speed with the 208DBK, both AnyDVD and MakeMKV seemed to never get above 4x (average was only 2x) , I ended up returning it and getting a LG drive, and never had an issue with ripping speeds since.

It could just be an isolated issue and I just got a defective drive, but it might be worth checking once it arrives.
post #66 of 354
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The 208DBK had just as good of marks (based off of reviews from 3 resellers and a couple of independent sites) if not better than the LG I started with, but was a tad cheaper. I really don't plan to rip with it at all though. Just there for the rare and occasional blu-ray disc playback. Heck, I didn't even need it to be a burner, but it was priced better and had better reviews than some player-only drives.

Thanks for the heads up though. If I was going to use it for ripping, I might have played it safe and switched it out now before my order shipped based off of your experience and insight.

FYI, here is a link to an online review for it from just over a month ago. This one really helped sell me.

Pioneer BDR-208DBK review - the best Blu-ray burner we've seen yet

While that review isn't all-inclusive, it was just a quick not-too-technical read for someone breezing through this topic.
Edited by nickbuol - 10/1/13 at 6:58am
post #67 of 354
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

The 208DBK had just as good of marks (based off of reviews from 3 resellers and a couple of independent sites) if not better than the LG I started with, but was a tad cheaper. I really don't plan to rip with it at all though. Just there for the rare and occasional blu-ray disc playback. Heck, I didn't even need it to be a burner, but it was priced better and had better reviews than some player-only drives.

Not sure how it came out cheaper than say the LG UH12NS30

For playback and ripping you don't need a blu ray burner, but if you found one cheaper than any other reader (same speed) then it would make sense to purchase a burner.

For ripping, you have to dig into the product pages to find the max BD-ROM DL speed. Your 208DBK is 8x (as is the UH12NS30). For playback of a disc in the drive, the only difference will be how long it takes the drive to spin up and start the main menu
post #68 of 354
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The Pioneer was available for the same price (ok 2 cents less) than the LG reader. Again, I know that I don't NEED the burning capabilities as I already have a BD burner in my primary desktop, but for pretty much even money, and they both get great reviews (heck, I have that LG drive and have been using it for ripping), and the fact that the Pioneer is all black, and no shiny silver or bright white logos stamped on the front, that works better for me. I know that the case comes with a drive face place, but I hear that they just "stick" on to the drive's build in faceplate. Over time I wonder if it will fall off, so all black was actually a deciding factor.

Again, I don't plan to use the drive barely at all. I mean, that is why I have been a ripping fool lately, but I do appreciate you trying to help a guy out to make sure that he is getting the right thing that he needs.
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Oh, that drive is the one in my server and works like a champ, but I just remembered that while I like its "bumped out" eject button is great in a regular case, in the HTPC case where more of the drive is hidden, that "bump" won't work.
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post #69 of 354
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

The Pioneer was available for the same price (ok 2 cents less) than the LG reader
In that case, nice find smile.gif
post #70 of 354
i5 is overkill IMO. Buy a dual or triple core AMD and save yourself a bunch of money. Since it will have forward compatibilty, unlike Intel, you win twice, because when you upgrade you dont have to totally change the system. The MB's are much cheaper too. Your 8gbs of ram is going to sit there doing nothing the entire time you run XBMC. Granted, ram is cheap, but im just saying...


Just so you know, I have run HTPC's on everything from E4300's to i7 3770's. My current HTPC is a i7920. Its overkill. The old E4300 with 2gb of DDR2 ram ran XBMC and uncompressed blu rays fine. My current machine is overkill, but i7 920's arent worth much and I have nothing else to do with the box.

Buy whatever case you like. I agree with the early poster who told you to buy a video card. On chip video isnt quite there yet for anyone looking for top notch video... although the newest chipsets should *almost* be good enough. Since you dont need drives its going to be insanely easy to stay under 800 bucks. If you take one thing from this post, please let it be there is absolutely no need to buy a nice chip and mb for a HTPC.
post #71 of 354
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Yeah, the only things not ordered/bought yet are the CPU and mobo. Oh and the SSD. Those were all on my shopping list for next week when I travel to Baltimore, MD and Exton, PA as Micro Center has some great advertised prices on the ones I mentioned earlier.

So I still have a few days to sort through that.

New question... video card...

I ordered an ASUS HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5 Basically a "known to be quiet" 1GB HD7790 for $110 (after rebate)

New Egg has a shell shocker this morning of a MSI R7850-2GD5/OC which is obviously an MSI HD7850 card. It has 2GB of RAM (I know, not needed), but is the same price after rebate.

If I was just building a regular rig, I would cancel the ASUS and get the MSI because the 7850 is a better GPU and I would be doubling my RAM, but since we are going for quiet here, I wasn't sure about this particular MSI card. It is the one with a single fan on it.

I know that either card will be great for my needs, but again, if the price is the same, I want to look into the more powerful card, but not if I am going to have fan noise.

Google isn't being very kind with any realworld noise comparison numbers.
post #72 of 354
You mentioned earlier you are not huge into games, so for video play back I'd say skip the extra trouble and keep the Asus.

I'm not exactly sure how a 50 level 7800 compares to a 90 level 7700 ? That would be a good question for Renethx.

I'm guessing the 7790 is the better option for MadVr with all things considered.

If I was stepping up, I'd jump to the 7870 if anything. I have a 6870 I'm using myself and strangely there appears to be a small performance difference with the 7850, (I expected some) so my take away was that while modern cards can improve in cutting edge areas like new games or efficiency they really don't pack that much more punch on older or more simpler processing.

So a 6780 I've had for years still keeps up on Madvr with two generations newer. (At least against 50 level stuff)

A 90 level card is powerful in comparison to a 50, so I don't think there is a big difference at all between the two cards you are considering.
I would not even be surprised if the 7790 was better at some stuff.
post #73 of 354
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I was looking at this:
HD 7790 vs HD 7850

Taken from that comparison:

The Radeon HD 7790 features a clock speed of 1000 MHz and a GDDR5 memory speed of 1500 MHz. It also features a 128-bit bus, and makes use of a 28 nm design. It is comprised of 896 SPUs, 56 Texture Address Units, and 16 Raster Operation Units.
Compare that to the Radeon HD 7850, which features a core clock speed of 860 MHz and a GDDR5 memory frequency of 1200 MHz. It also makes use of a 256-bit memory bus, and makes use of a 28 nm design. It is comprised of 1024 SPUs, 64 TAUs, and 32 Raster Operation Units.

So the clock and memory speeds are slower on the 7850, but it can handle more throughput with the additional SPUs, TAUs, and Raster OUs.

the 7850 seems to use more power though, so maybe it gets hotter and thus is a red flag? IDK...

You are right though that I don't care about gaming in the theater. (I do game though. biggrin.gif )
post #74 of 354
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Originally Posted by ridindirty View Post

i5 is overkill IMO. Buy a dual or triple core AMD and save yourself a bunch of money.

That's actually a really good suggestion. The only caveat is if Nick wants to run SVP which needs a really powerful CPU.
post #75 of 354
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

I was looking at this:
HD 7790 vs HD 7850

Taken from that comparison:

The Radeon HD 7790 features a clock speed of 1000 MHz and a GDDR5 memory speed of 1500 MHz. It also features a 128-bit bus, and makes use of a 28 nm design. It is comprised of 896 SPUs, 56 Texture Address Units, and 16 Raster Operation Units.
Compare that to the Radeon HD 7850, which features a core clock speed of 860 MHz and a GDDR5 memory frequency of 1200 MHz. It also makes use of a 256-bit memory bus, and makes use of a 28 nm design. It is comprised of 1024 SPUs, 64 TAUs, and 32 Raster Operation Units.

So the clock and memory speeds are slower on the 7850, but it can handle more throughput with the additional SPUs, TAUs, and Raster OUs.

the 7850 seems to use more power though, so maybe it gets hotter and thus is a red flag? IDK...

You are right though that I don't care about gaming in the theater. (I do game though. biggrin.gif )


It's not a direct correlation I think. That page and link are talking about theoretical. That is not indicative of real world MadVR performance, or other things you might do. I think the 7850 might show some strengths at tasks that would utilitize all of the extra stream processor units- but in tasks that would not the faster core clock speed of the 7790 might give it an extra boost to keep it on par.

That's just my guess. I don't test these things, but reneTHX does. In any event the differences are rather small- and the 7790 is enough. I would not torture myself over such a small difference, it's not likely to mean anything. My thinking was that your best off spending only $100 (or near this) and getting a card that is plenty good enough for today and do what you want. Something quiet is good too. You should not feel terrible doing an upgrade on a $100 GPU card in a couple years if you really wanted more (for gaming, or 4k, or HDMI 2.0 or whatever ) and that is all you would need to do as your system should provide you many years of excellent performance.

I just don't see enough benefit for the 7850 to bother. I would go to the 7870 if I was going to make the leap. AMD is releasing the "Volcanic Islands" line up, they have big to do going on in Hawaii as a launch event. This is the new AMD line up, which is likely to make older cards cheaper (like a 7870/7890 as well as 7950 and 7970 ).

You will start to notice some big boosts in the 7900 series or 8000 series (like 2000+ Stream processor units). But again, do you need it ?

Not for video play back wink.gif That's gamer territory so we are just getting confused and sucked in. 7790 for $110 is idea for your HTPC today. I would not want a "today" model of the higher or more expensive cards anyways, you likely should wait for the next generation and HDMI 2.0 compliance that will run 4k. Those are the reasons why you would want more card. You simply do not need more performance for video playback.
post #76 of 354
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Originally Posted by politby View Post

That's actually a really good suggestion. The only caveat is if Nick wants to run SVP which needs a really powerful CPU.

Yes. I did not respond to this but I think he was thinking of simple 1080p playback, and not "advanced".

Advanced video playback (I.E advanced video processing AKA MadVR / SVP or the others) will utilize significantly more CPU and GPU, thus the reason for i5 quad cores, and 7000 series GPU cards (even though Haswell HD4600 GPU is otherwise very good)

You would not need a GPU card at all for such things, as the built in Intel HD4600 is "enough" or actually more than enough.

SVP would not run on a dual core. It would get crushed, or you would need to lower the levels significantly. If you wanted to run MADVR with SVP and Reclock on a player like MPC-HC the 4670k he is considering is a good option; In fact it's probably more "minimum" than overkill. SVP + MadVR on my 2600k i7 gave my system a decent workout with 16GB of ram, it was totally shocking to me. I was expecting my old PC to crush it, and while it could pull it off (with a GPU card BTW) it was not easy. I have a little more headroom on my 4770k, but my 3570k i5 in my HTPC really works hard, I have it set on level 4G (not 5g).

Upgrading my GPU card, and overclocking my ram and CPU 10% should button things up if I wanted to go MAX but I have not gotten around to it, and I value the cool and quiet too much (I am on stock cooler) I do have it in a ATX tower case in my AV closet so I can go with some cheap reasonably quiet cooler like a 212EVO cooler if I needed, but I think I might end up going Silverstone and water cooling. It's on my project list but I am on a spending freeze currently eek.gif

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Originally Posted by ridindirty View Post

i5 is overkill IMO. Buy a dual or triple core AMD and save yourself a bunch of money. Since it will have forward compatibilty, unlike Intel, you win twice, because when you upgrade you dont have to totally change the system. The MB's are much cheaper too. Your 8gbs of ram is going to sit there doing nothing the entire time you run XBMC. Granted, ram is cheap, but im just saying...


Just so you know, I have run HTPC's on everything from E4300's to i7 3770's. My current HTPC is a i7920. Its overkill. The old E4300 with 2gb of DDR2 ram ran XBMC and uncompressed blu rays fine. My current machine is overkill, but i7 920's arent worth much and I have nothing else to do with the box.

Buy whatever case you like. I agree with the early poster who told you to buy a video card. On chip video isnt quite there yet for anyone looking for top notch video... although the newest chipsets should *almost* be good enough. Since you dont need drives its going to be insanely easy to stay under 800 bucks. If you take one thing from this post, please let it be there is absolutely no need to buy a nice chip and mb for a HTPC.

I think you are not understanding the difference between rather routine and old school XBMC playback with internal player versus a maximum PQ/SQ advanced video processing option.

It's not as easy setting up something like MPC-HC with MadVR, SVP, Reclock, codecs and plugins- but the different in playback can be obvious. If you prefer such or not is a totally different story, but the resources and PC requirements for such a set up are rather significant.

I am pretty sure your current set up of i7 920 is not up to the task of reclock/Madvr + SVP on max settings. It would likely stutter or drop some frames on the more difficult media types, and without a modern decent GPU card you could not do it either.

Apples and oranges.

Give it a shot:

http://www.svp-team.com/
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http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228
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https://forum.slysoft.com/forumdisplay.php?85-ReClock

Here is a good guide: (sticky at top forum)

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1357375/advanced-mpc-hc-setup-guide/0_100
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Originally Posted by MlNDBOMB View Post

Feel free to add any comments or questions in this thread.

What you need to download
1. MPC-HC x86 installer (http://mpc-hc.org/downloads/)
2. MadVR.zip ( http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146228 )
3. XY-Subfilter Beta (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=168282 )
4. Optional - dtsdecoderdll.dll – from arcsoft TMT software
5. Optional - Reclock ( from the stickied thread here http://forum.slysoft.com/forumdisplay.php?f=85 )

Media Player and Video Renderer Installation
- First install media player classic home cinema. Check the box to reset settings during the installation if you've mucked around with the mpc hc settings before and want to start fresh.
- Install madVR by extracting it and running the install.bat for it.
- Open mpc hc, press “o” for options, and go to output. For directshow video, choose madVR


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Installing XySubFilter
- To install XySubFilter, download the installer and run it.
- To configure mpc hc to use XySubFilter, open mpc hc, press o for options, go to playback, and uncheck autoload subtitles.


Disabling the Audio Switcher
- While we are in mpc hc options, go into the Audio Switcher subsection, and uncheck the box at the top.


Video Decoding
- Go to options, internal filters, and click Video Decoder at the bottom.
- The different GPU decoding modes are listed under hardware decoding in the upper right. Select nvidia cuvid for an nvidia gpu, intel quicksync for an intel gpu, and dxva2 copyback for an amd gpu. The one you plan on using should say "available" to the right of it after it has been selected.
- If you feel that your cpu is up to the task, you can select none.




Windows Audio Setup
- Go to control panel, hardware and sound, and then sound. Right click on your sound device, and then go to advanced. Here you can select the output format.
- 24 bit/48khz is a good value if you have 24 bit DACs.




- Go back to the sound window. Right click on your sound device and this time select configure speakers. Set it up to match your speaker setup.
- If you are using spdif output, you probably don't have this option, and don't have to do this step.
- If you have 2.1 computer speakers, select 2.0 and make them full range.



Lav Audio Config
Bitstreaming
- Go to options, internal filters, and click Audio Decoder at the bottom to open the Lav Audio settings tab.
- Under Bitstreaming, select the formats you want to bitstream.
- For analog, don't check any, for SPDIF, check Dolby Digital and DTS, for HDMI, check all the options for bitstreaming. This is assuming you have a receiver with the proper decoders.


Optional - Advanced DTS and DTS-HD Decoding
- This is only for those who don’t bitstream DTS or DTS-HD.
- Search the arcsoft TMT folder for a file called dtsdecoderdll.dll. Then copy this file into C:\Program Files (x86)\MPC-HC\LAVFilters
- This will allow high quality DTS and DTS-HD decoding through MPC-HC.

madVR Config
- To edit the madVR settings, first play any video in MPC-HC. Then right click in the video, go to filters, then click on madVR, and click edit settings.
- This is also a great chance to make sure all the lav filters are also showing up properly in the filters list.


Scaling
- Under the scaling algorithms section, you can customize the scaling used.
- A lot of people with high end graphics cards are using the Jinc or lanczos scaler at 3 taps with the antiringing filter for chroma and image upscaling (though still using catmull rom for image downscaling), which can be very gpu taxing (jinc moreso than lanczos).
- Alternatively, there is the option of dxva scalers for image upscaling and downscaling, and bilinear for chroma, which doesn't tax the gpu much and is a great choice for a low power gpu.


Display Modes
- madVR can switch different refresh rates to match the video's framerate.
- First see if your display supports other refresh rates. Right click on your desktop wallpaper and go to screen resolution. Choose the display you watch videos on and go to advanced. Then go to the monitor tab and look at the listed refresh rates.


- To have madVR automatically switch to the proper refresh rate, go to the devices section in madVR settings and choose the display that you watch videos on. Expand it, and then choose display modes.
- If your display showed a 23hz mode, you can enter 1080p23 for example. The desired refresh rates are usually 23.976, 24, 50, 59.94, 60, or multiples of these. The names of the non-integer refresh rates are shortened, so 23.976=23.
- You can check to see if the display's refresh rate changed by pressing ctrl+j while a video is playing; the refresh rate is listed at the very top.


Smooth Motion
- If you can't fully use the display modes feature of madVR, you may be interested in the smooth motion feature to remove judder.
- This is available through the rendering section of the madVR settings, under smooth motion.


Deinterlacing
- Go to deinterlacing, under the processing section
- There are 2 types of deinterlacing available through madvr. Video deinterlacing for video sources and film deinterlacing for film sources. Film deinterlacing is also known as inverse telecine.
- Default is video deinterlacing, but you may want to change it to film if you watch a lot of DVDs or HDTV
- Automatic source detection doesn’t work at this time, so disable it and manually manually force film mode or video mode.


Subtitles
Intelligent Subtitle Selection
- Go to options, internal filters, and click Splitter at the bottom.
- Select Advanced for subtitle selection mode.
- If you are an english speaker, you will probably want to enter "eng:eng|f;eng:off;*:eng" (without the quotes) here.
- This will enable only forced english subtitles when english audio is present, and english subtitles when a non-english audio is present.
- This should generally lead to the correct subtitle choice, but if for some reason it doesn't, you can use the S key to cycle through the different subs present in the file or manually select subtitles through lav splitter (right click in the video, go to filters, lav splitter).


Optional - Reclock
Reclock can make videos smoother. Without reclock, you will have slight frame drops/repeats once in a while due to the frame rate not quite matching the refresh rate or intrinsic problems with the audio clock.


This can be fixed with reclock, but it has a few caveats:
1. You shouldn’t bitstream with it. That means you’ll need the dtsdecoderdll.dll for dts-hd. Reclock needs uncompressed audio to work because it modifies it for smoother video.
2. You have to have set up display mode switching in madvr so that your video’s frame rate is always near your refresh rate. Reclock will only modify the audio rate by a small amount, so it can’t work if there is a large disparity between the frame rate and the refresh rate.

If you meet this criteria, and you’re intrigued by the idea of smoother video, follow these steps:
- First, you can install reclock using the installer. Note that you don’t need PowerDVD support, dsound support, Arcsoft TMT support, etc, just the program files.
- Then, go into lav audio and disable bitstreaming for all formats.


- While in lav audio’s settings, note the mixing tab. With reclock, we will use wasapi exclusive mode, which disables Windows’ mixer (the one you saw in control panel>audio>configure speakers). This may cause issues if you are using integrated audio, so you will have to use lav audio to mix to your speaker configuration. Also, be sure to check "Don't mix stereo sources" if you want mono and stereo streams to remain untouched. If you have a dedicated sound card or an hdmi multichannel receiver, you can likely skip all this – specify speaker config through the sound card or receiver instead.


- Configure MPC-HC to use reclock as the audio renderer by going to options, output and selecting reclock as the audio renderer.


- Open the configure reclock shortcut from the start menu. Choose Wasapi for PCM, choose best sinc interpolation for quality, choose 24 bit padded to 32 for format, and uncheck “output mono to front channels” if you have a center speaker (5.1 configs, etc)


- And that’s all. You’ll should see the green reclock icon in the taskbar while videos are playing, indicating that reclock is doing its thing.

Updating Software
- You can update MPC HC by just running a newer installer. Your settings will carry over.
- For madVR, run the uninstall.bat, delete the old madVR folder, put the new one in its place and run the install.bat.
- For reclock and xysubfilter, run the uninstaller, and then the new installer.

post #77 of 354
Need to read when I get home, great info here. smile.gif


Djoel
post #78 of 354
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post


OK, I am going to do this. Actually I have been meaning to, so I appreciate you posting it here, makes my life easier. smile.gif

That being said, why would my GT430 + i7920 not be able to handle what your 6870 + whatever CPU you have can do? Are you saying these settings offload so much rendering to the CPU my current setup cant handle it? I am up for that challenge, but I am going to have to say, my preconceived notion is I severely doubt that to be the case. By reading your post it would seem you think I suggested he not get a separate GPU? That isnt the case, fwiw.

Hope the above doesnt come across as argumentative, thats not my intent.
Edited by ridindirty - 10/2/13 at 7:05pm
post #79 of 354
It's all good biggrin.gif

As for settings - I'm not sure your set up will handle MadVr level 5 with re-clock and SVP level 5G.

I'm guessing if you can do it, it's going to struggle /stutter. I could be wrong. I might expect your CPU to be in the upper range (75%-100%)

I think your CPU has a pass mark around 5000, that's probably level 4 territory in SVP.

As for MadVr that's more on your GPU card, while SVP is primarily CPU bound. Running both at max with good results requires modern high end hardware. I7 is best choice for SVP, ideally something with a pass mark score of 7500+ is my guess.

Give it a shot (I'm just guessing :d )
post #80 of 354
Hmm... Well I am very interested so I will try it out and report back. Hopefully I can get to it this weekend.
post #81 of 354
Cool biggrin.gif I will be interested in your experiences.

And,

@ Nick - you been quiet man tongue.gif You must be traveling. I expected you to have boxes full of PC parts by now... biggrin.gif
post #82 of 354
Thread Starter 
It is homecoming this week for our daughter, so we have had a lot of activities going on. I am traveling to Baltimore, MD and Exton, PA this coming week.
post #83 of 354
You are a busy worker bee I see... tongue.gif
post #84 of 354
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

You are a busy worker bee I see... tongue.gif

Heading to the airport in 4 minutes, but look what just showed up:



On the left in the white box is the Pioneer blu-ray writer
Then there is the case, RAM, PSU, and GPU...

I did take the case out. It looks VERY nice.

Anyway, off to Baltimore, MD and Exton, PA Need to buy me a mobo, CPU, and SSD while I am traveling. biggrin.gif
post #85 of 354
Oh.. that is HTPC PORN !

Nice. What else are you planning to get ?
post #86 of 354
Thread Starter 
Tomorrow night I pick up the ASRock Z87M Extreme4 mobo, i5-4670k CPU, and Samsung 840 EVO SSD (couldn't bring myself to fork over the extra cash for a Pro, but the EVO is a nice step up from the base 840). Microcenter is getting that cash.
post #87 of 354
$800 dollars, piece of cake.
post #88 of 354
Thread Starter 
Made my stop at Micro Center today in St Davids, PA (while driving between Baltimore, MD and Exton, PA. A small detour, but worth it.

Picked up the following:


Intel i5-4670K - $199.99
Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD - $89.99
ASRock Z87M Extreme4 - $89.99!!!! Yes, that price is correct!

Even with the 6% sales tax, this was a GREAT buy. The i5 'K' version for less than the non-'K' version elsewhere, the 840 EVO for less than the non-EVO everywhere else, and the Z87M for a LOT less than everywhere else.

I picked up a few accessories like a little mounting bracket for the SSD for $5, and another gigabit switch (5 port) to eventually put into the theater to match up with the 10 port Gigabit switch in my office where my wired connections all come to. That was on sale for $20 which was about half price of the price I had seen online.

Now to be creative and make sure that I can pack this all into my suitecase for the flight home on Friday.

Total parts list with actual pricing located here:
Nick Buol's HTPC Build Parts
post #89 of 354
Awesome choices. Should be a great build.
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Hey, what are people using for IR sensors for their HTPCs? I have a Harmony One that I would like to use (and will probably pick up a Logitech K400 for general work on the HTPC), but I need something to receive the Harmony One signal.
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