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post #1831 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

Ell if these are correct, then the Triax is working 10 times better then the XV-30, i got the Dayton Omni Mic and does anybody know if you have to calibrate the mic more then once? And also when i installed the omni mic software on my computer it told me to change something with the microphone sound in my computer, but when i used my buddys laptop it didnt tell me to do it.

Dude this looks way better than what you originally described with your older subs, I don't see any of those dead zone drops!

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post #1832 of 3312
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

I get it now, I wonder why receiver don't have that option as an output? Or maybe just mine doesn't?

Money and available real estate on the back of the AVR. Usually, XLR goes with Amps and PrePros and RCA goes with AVRs.
post #1833 of 3312
Joshjp,

Pretty decent graphs. However, they make it look like you have a 15Hz tuned ported sub. smile.gif

The difference between the two settings is very, very minor. Looks like your room dominates the response below 14Hz. Either that, or you have significant signal-chain rolloff. smile.gif Is there a HPF built-in somewhere?

What are you using for EQ? Gotta drop those dips at 44Hz and 88Hz. Room modes?
post #1834 of 3312
Not bad...looks to +/-3db down to 12-13hz.

Now if we could see some max spl graphs so we can see what kind of output this beast delivers in the 10-20hz range. I bet blackmamba will do it when he gets his??
post #1835 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

So does this mean button out is stronger? Is button out for larger room modes?
I think the button out is for smaller rooms.
post #1836 of 3312
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

Not bad...looks to +/-3db down to 12-13hz.

Now if we could see some max spl graphs so we can see what kind of output this beast delivers in the 10-20hz range. I bet blackmamba will do it when he gets his??

Anything that says max in it I'm in! biggrin.gif
post #1837 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

I think the button out is for smaller rooms.

Your looking good to be just getting your feet wet with the Triax, so you chose front right corner placement? That's what I'm aiming for
post #1838 of 3312
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Joshjp,

Pretty decent graphs. However, they make it look like you have a 15Hz tuned ported sub. smile.gif

The difference between the two settings is very, very minor. Looks like your room dominates the response below 14Hz. Either that, or you have significant signal-chain rolloff. smile.gif Is there a HPF built-in somewhere?

What are you using for EQ? Gotta drop those dips at 44Hz and 88Hz. Room modes?
TY i have the onkyo 818 but i hate xt32 in this room, im much much happyer with the responce now.
post #1839 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

Your looking good to be just getting your feet wet with the Triax, so you chose front right corner placement? That's what I'm aiming for
OCD
post #1840 of 3312
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Joshjp,

Pretty decent graphs. However, they make it look like you have a 15Hz tuned ported sub. smile.gif

The difference between the two settings is very, very minor. Looks like your room dominates the response below 14Hz. Either that, or you have significant signal-chain rolloff. smile.gif Is there a HPF built-in somewhere?

What are you using for EQ? Gotta drop those dips at 44Hz and 88Hz. Room modes?

Am I looking at the graphs right? It looks like he gets 6 more db's at 15hz in the second graph? eek.gif Was the volume on the MV and sub trim the same for both measurements? If so that's a huge difference!
post #1841 of 3312
The MV was at -10 for both subs, trim on AVR at 0, and the Triax is calibrated to 78DB.
post #1842 of 3312
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Joshjp,

Pretty decent graphs. However, they make it look like you have a 15Hz tuned ported sub. smile.gif

The difference between the two settings is very, very minor. Looks like your room dominates the response below 14Hz. Either that, or you have significant signal-chain rolloff. smile.gif Is there a HPF built-in somewhere?

What are you using for EQ? Gotta drop those dips at 44Hz and 88Hz. Room modes?

Am I looking at the graphs right? It looks like he gets 6 more db's at 15hz in the second graph? eek.gif Was the volume on the MV and sub trim the same for both measurements? If so that's a huge difference!

Yeah, sorry, I meant very minor in the ULF region, where I thought the 2nd program was supposed to really help.
post #1843 of 3312
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Yeah, sorry, I meant very minor in the ULF region, where I thought the 2nd program was supposed to really help.

Oh, ok gotcha.
post #1844 of 3312
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Originally Posted by nube View Post

Yeah, sorry, I meant very minor in the ULF region, where I thought the 2nd program was supposed to really help.
With the button out it stars to bost at 40hz.
post #1845 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Joshjp View Post

I think the button out is for smaller rooms.

Button out is for larger rooms (>5000 ft3) with less room gain, button in is for smaller rooms (<5000 ft3) with more room gain. wink.gif
post #1846 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Button out is for larger rooms (>5000 ft3) with less room gain, button in is for smaller rooms (<5000 ft3) with more room gain. wink.gif

This might sound stupid but could you explain what less room gain and more room gain means in reference to the sub output between button in and button out? I just don't want to confuse myself lol
post #1847 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

This might sound stupid but could you explain what less room gain and more room gain means in reference to the sub output between button in and button out? I just don't want to confuse myself lol

Smaller rooms can boost the lower frequencies (room gain). The bigger the room, the less boost you get from the room. With the program button in, there is more roll off at the lower end which may be suitable for smaller rooms that exhibit more gain in the lower frequencies. With the program button out, there is less roll off in the low end which may be suitable for larger rooms that exhibit less gain in the lower frequencies.

My advice is to set the program button where it sounds best to you, regardless of room size. wink.gif

PS - remember when you change the program button position, you have to power the amp down and back up for the program change to take effect. smile.gif
post #1848 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

Smaller rooms can boost the lower frequencies (room gain). The bigger the room, the less boost you get from the room. With the program button in, there is more roll off at the lower end which may be suitable for smaller rooms that exhibit more gain in the lower frequencies. With the program button out, there is less roll off in the low end which may be suitable for larger rooms that exhibit less gain in the lower frequencies.

My advice is to set the program button where it sounds best to you, regardless of room size. wink.gif

PS - remember when you change the program button position, you have to power the amp down and back up for the program change to take effect. smile.gif

I get it, my room is close to the borderline to that 5,000 sq ft. I'll probably go with it out first, itd make sense since my room is a good size. Did you notice any audible differences when you tried both ways?
post #1849 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

I get it, my room is close to the borderline to that 5,000 sq ft. I'll probably go with it out first, itd make sense since my room is a good size. Did you notice any audible differences when you tried both ways?

It's seems I get a little more oomph in the low end with the button out. I haven't yet measured though to see if the difference is real or in my head. biggrin.gif. When I get a chance, I'll measure both modes and post the results.

Btw, my room is about 5500ft3.
post #1850 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post

It's seems I get a little more oomph in the low end with the button out. I haven't yet measured though to see if the difference is real or in my head. biggrin.gif. When I get a chance, I'll measure both modes and post the results.

Btw, my room is about 5500ft3.

Thanks for the info, I'll try button out too, my room is close to your size
post #1851 of 3312
I just ordered this 10ft monoprice gold plated cable, I paid for next day shipping hehehe. I'm going to have it just in case I have any problems with my cables and adapter. I'll just run this monoprice first if it gets here before the Triax.

post #1852 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

I just ordered this 10ft monoprice gold plated cable, I paid for next day shipping hehehe. I'm going to have it just in case I have any problems with my cables and adapter. I'll just run this monoprice first if it gets here before the Triax.

Was next day shipping the cheapest for you? I get overnight usually, and I was pissed when I forgot to select overnight and it took a couple of days longer plus I paid more (I am only like 400 miles from them).
post #1853 of 3312
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Originally Posted by ellisr63 View Post

Was next day shipping the cheapest for you? I get overnight usually, and I was pissed when I forgot to select overnight and it took a couple of days longer plus I paid more (I am only like 400 miles from them).

Well the 10ft monoprice cable and overnight shipping costed a total of $30. I didn't mind paying overnight this time because it'll get here Tuesday with my Triax and then I can use it the same day just to make sure I get a clean signal. I figure with this cable and my 3 prong wall outlets, I shouldn't have any noise issues.
post #1854 of 3312
For others who may be reading this thread, I've had absolutely no issues using the supplied adaptors with my existing sub cable. wink.gif
post #1855 of 3312
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Originally Posted by Blackmambakila View Post

Well the 10ft monoprice cable and overnight shipping costed a total of $30. I didn't mind paying overnight this time because it'll get here Tuesday with my Triax and then I can use it the same day just to make sure I get a clean signal. I figure with this cable and my 3 prong wall outlets, I shouldn't have any noise issues.

I had a humming sound in both subs when they were not getting a signal and plugged into a 3 prong outlet. I just broke the 3rd prong off of the power cord and no more noise.
post #1856 of 3312
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Originally Posted by raynist View Post

I had a humming sound in both subs when they were not getting a signal and plugged into a 3 prong outlet. I just broke the 3rd prong off of the power cord and no more noise.

Yikes, then I'll be ready to rip off a prong too, lol. I'm trying to kinda go over possible scenarios and be ready just in case I run into trouble. So far the only signal connection is the XLR male to RCA male, so I got that covered. Now for the outlet issues I have 3 prong outlets, so I'll have a cheater plug on hand too. Hopefully I'm not missing any other possible troubleshooting issues, I'd like to be prepared. I don't want this to happen when I power it up


Edited by Blackmambakila - 11/17/13 at 8:06pm
post #1857 of 3312
Sounds like the Triax should include a Cheatr plug.
post #1858 of 3312
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Originally Posted by raynist View Post

I had a humming sound in both subs when they were not getting a signal and plugged into a 3 prong outlet. I just broke the 3rd prong off of the power cord and no more noise.

I get a slight buzzing sound (not audible at the main LP) when plugged directly into the 3 prong outlet. The noise goes completely away using a cheater plug; not quite as violent as ripping off the 3rd prong. biggrin.gif
post #1859 of 3312
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

Sounds like the Triax should include a Cheatr plug.

There do seem to be a number of reports of ground loop noise.
post #1860 of 3312
It is all the power trying to escape biggrin.gif
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