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Originally Posted by Blackman View Post

Now I find the post I was looking for.
Bob, what am I doing wrong?. I have only played two blu-ray movies since I purchased my 103D but only have pressed the info on one of them (Pearl Harbour) and did not see the Color Space setting . I have my HDMI 1 (to the TV, HDMI 2 to the amp) Color space setting on 4:2:2 not AUTO.
thanks.

Color space is for output, not input. All Blu-rays are YCbCr 4:2:0, so there is no point in showing it on the On Screen Display.

-Bill
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

Color space is for output, not input. All Blu-rays are YCbCr 4:2:0, so there is no point in showing it on the On Screen Display.

-Bill

How do you know this, is there a link that I can go to see the information. The Panasonic Blu Ray Player has a default of 4:4:4. Thank You in advance.
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4:4:4 is the default output setting for Panasonic, and most players I know of.

S~
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Another BDP-103D review from across the pond

Essentially, anyone thinking of buying an
Oppo BDP-103EU should definitely check out
this upgrade. That extra £100 gets you a neat
toy to play with. read more

NOVEMBER 2013 | HOME CINEMA CHOICE, MARK CRAVEN UK
Edited by JohnAV - 11/15/13 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

4:4:4 is the default output setting for Panasonic, and most players I know of.

S~

Me too. So if the blu ray players are this default, what about the disc?
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Originally Posted by HDPERSON View Post

How do you know this, is there a link that I can go to see the information. The Panasonic Blu Ray Player has a default of 4:4:4. Thank You in advance.

Its a fact, blu-rays are 4:2:0. A player has to do chroma upconversion to either 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 for output though, no player has 4:2:0.

Do some reading on colorspace.
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Its a fact, blu-rays are 4:2:0. A player has to do chroma upconversion to either 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 for output though, no player has 4:2:0.

Do some reading on colorspace.

Where can I get the information to verify this? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by HDPERSON View Post

Where can I get the information to verify this? Thanks!

http://www.spearsandmunsil.com/portfolio/choosing-a-color-space/
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

press Info on the OPPO remote and see what shows on the on-screen display. The top line is what's coming in on that input. The bottom line is what's going out on the HDMI outputs. Confirm that you are getting the video Resolutions and Color Space choices that you expect.

--Bob

Now I find the post I was looking for.
Bob, what am I doing wrong?. I have only played two blu-ray movies since I purchased my 103D but only have pressed the info on one of them (Pearl Harbour) and did not see the Color Space setting . I have my HDMI 1 (to the TV, HDMI 2 to the amp) Color space setting on 4:2:2 not AUTO.
thanks.

That post is referring to what's in the On-screen Info display when viewing either of the HDMI Inputs. That Info display works differently when playing a movie disc.

When playing a movie disc, the default display shows location on disc and data rate being read at the moment on the top line, plus the input audio and video File Format info (i.e., what's being read off the disc at the moment according to your selections from the disc's menus) in the bottom line. The Color Space being read off the disc is not shown, because it is always the same -- what's called YCbCr 4:2:0 -- for both SD-DVDs and Blu-rays.

While playing an SD-DVD or Blu-ray, press Info to see that standard pair of lines (where you are on the disc, and what's being read off the disc). Then press either Page Up or Page Down to CHANGE what's shown in the Info display. The new Info display will now show (bottom line) what is being OUTPUT on the player's two HDMI outputs -- including the output Color Space in use.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

4:4:4 is the default output setting for Panasonic, and most players I know of.

S~
YCbCr 4:4:4 is the default Color Space for connection between two HDMI devices. I.E., if neither device enforces a preference during the handshake, then YCbCr 4:4:4 is what gets used.

(RGB is the default for HDMI to DVI device cabling, with the choice of RGB Video Level vs. RGB PC Level still being something that has to be set MANUALLY to match in both of the two devices.)
--Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

That post is referring to what's in the On-screen Info display when viewing either of the HDMI Inputs. That Info display works differently when playing a movie disc.

When playing a movie disc, the default display shows location on disc and data rate being read at the moment on the top line, plus the input audio and video File Format info (i.e., what's being read off the disc at the moment according to your selections from the disc's menus) in the bottom line. The Color Space being read off the disc is not shown, because it is always the same -- what's called YCbCr 4:2:0 -- for both SD-DVDs and Blu-rays.

While playing an SD-DVD or Blu-ray, press Info to see that standard pair of lines (where you are on the disc, and what's being read off the disc). Then press either Page Up or Page Down to CHANGE what's shown in the Info display. The new Info display will now show (bottom line) what is being OUTPUT on the player's two HDMI outputs -- including the output Color Space in use.
--Bob

For local video playback it would be nice if it displayed the file name in one of the info screens
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The problem is that file names can be arbitrarily long. Even reserving a useful number of characters for just a partial name (perhaps scrolling) is tough given the other stuff to be displayed.

If you have a suggestion for where this could fit (and what to do with other stuff that now can't fit), email OPPO. They just might do it!
--Bob
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Hi all, I have a darbee question. I want to use darbee on all my home theater gear like my PS4, Xbox, Wii U, Directv, etc. Should I get the stand alone darbee and patch it into my Onkyo 809 receiver with my oppo 103 or swap my 103 for the 103D and use a splitter on the 103D to connect my gear? Enquiring minds want to know! THX all and have a great weekend! Bill smile.gif
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Then press either Page Up or Page Down to CHANGE what's shown in the Info display. The new Info display will now show (bottom line) what is being OUTPUT on the player's two HDMI outputs -- including the output Color Space in use.
--Bob
thanks Bob i have just tested it and it was spot on. I am using the split video option on the 103D it comes up on HDMI 1 as 4:2:2 and on HDMI 2 which is set at auto it comes up surprisingly at 4:4:4.
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

The problem is that file names can be arbitrarily long. Even reserving a useful number of characters for just a partial name (perhaps scrolling) is tough given the other stuff to be displayed.

If you have a suggestion for where this could fit (and what to do with other stuff that now can't fit), email OPPO. They just might do it!
--Bob

If it was me ;-) I would allow folks to use the page down button as you mentioned earlier but replacing the entire lower text field with the file name truncating it to the max permissible number of characters. No scrolling. Hitting the page down button again brings back the existing info on that lower text field. Better than nothing. I'll email them.
Edited by apw2607 - 11/15/13 at 11:22pm
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Question for folks that have the streaming stick. When you set the sticks output resolution to 1080p and then hit info for the oppo screen overlay, do you see the input resolution (of the stick) to be 720p or 1080p ?

I only ever see 720p unless its vudu hdx where the sticks output resolution switches to 1080p.

Are folks seeing this? I guess I expected the stick to switch to 1080p all the time.
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Question for folks that have the streaming stick. When you set the sticks output resolution to 1080p and then hit info for the oppo screen overlay, do you see the input resolution (of the stick) to be 720p or 1080p ?

I only ever see 720p unless its vudu hdx where the sticks output resolution switches to 1080p.

Are folks seeing this? I guess I expected the stick to switch to 1080p all the time.

The setting on the ROKU Streaming Stick "allows" 1080p output, but doesn't upscale to that. I.e., you will only get 1080p output if you are playing 1080p content (such as your VUDU HDX streams). You will get 720p output for everything else -- both for original 720p content and for any SD content (upscaled by the Stick to 720p output). Of course the 103D will upscale that 720p input from the Stick to 1080p to go to your Display, if set to do so.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by Blackman View Post

Thanks Bob i have just tested it and it was spot on. I am using the split video option on the 103D it comes up on HDMI 1 as 4:2:2 and on HDMI 2 which is set at auto it comes up surprisingly at 4:4:4.

Getting 4:4:4 with the AUTO setting is "normal". As I said above, YCbCr 4:4:4 is the default result for HDMI to HDMI device connections unless either device imposes a preference. This default comes from the HDMI protocol.
--Bob
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hey guys i just got my 103-d last night, and had a disc spinning in about 2 min. the picture and sound is amazing, i hit the darbee button and set it for hidef and 35% by recommendation from all the knowledgeable posters here. wow really cool. after following this tread hearing about peoples problems with it. this bug and that bug,when is the next firmware update. it made me wonder, should i get one or not. cause i am


happy with my 100.00 players pic and sound quality. and don't want to fuss, so for people on the fence,this is a plug and play bd player it has a solid feel to it and everything i have done with it so far has been smooth. and i like the drop back of the turntable on the screen while listening to music.
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Question for folks that have the streaming stick. When you set the sticks output resolution to 1080p and then hit info for the oppo screen overlay, do you see the input resolution (of the stick) to be 720p or 1080p ?

I only ever see 720p unless its vudu hdx where the sticks output resolution switches to 1080p.

Are folks seeing this? I guess I expected the stick to switch to 1080p all the time.

I get 1080p/24 from the Netflix stuff I have tried, like their original series Orange is the New Black.

Amazon is 720p out of the stick, then the Oppo sends 1080p/60 to my display. I prefer the stick because it is a native of sorts, and lets the Oppo handle processing. The other issue with a standalone Roku is they are RGB, and I much prefer ycbcr to my VT50.
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Hi, Which method of following getting better sound from Oppo
1. direct optical out put from oppo to Bose Solo
2. optical out from TV to Bose solo
of-course all signal processing from Oppo to Tv
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Originally Posted by dhobi View Post

Hi, Which method of following getting better sound from Oppo
1. direct optical out put from oppo to Bose Solo
2. optical out from TV to Bose solo
of-course all signal processing from Oppo to Tv

the TV will not output decent audio from external sources (like a BD player), so a direct connect from Oppo to sound bar would be best.
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

I get 1080p/24 from the Netflix stuff I have tried, like their original series Orange is the New Black.

Amazon is 720p out of the stick, then the Oppo sends 1080p/60 to my display. I prefer the stick because it is a native of sorts, and lets the Oppo handle processing. The other issue with a standalone Roku is they are RGB, and I much prefer ycbcr to my VT50.

Yes true although roku 3 will always output 1080p if set (for everything) if I'm not mistake

I think a more accurate description of the sticks output is 720p with 1080p/24 pass through (if the stream supports it like Netflix super hd and vudu HDX)

Btw the new update was released yesterday for the stick. It didn't get the new Netflix app (that appears to be reserved for the roku 3) but did get the new m-go and news main menu apps. M-go is worth checking out as for signing up they give you two free rentals of your choice to use by end of year ... Worth up to 12 bucks.

So the stick for 50 from Oppo minus 12 bucks movie rentals makes it pretty good value !!
Edited by apw2607 - 11/16/13 at 11:04am
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Yes, Roku will put out 1080p/60 for everything if you set it that way. I was pleasantly surprised the Netflix app on the stick did 1080p/24.
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Yes, Roku will put out 1080p/60 for everything if you set it that way. I was pleasantly surprised the Netflix app on the stick did 1080p/24.

How has this been working for you? On my 103, 1080p/24 content drops frames every 20 seconds or so. I'd consider upgrading to the 103D if it's better in this regard.
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Agree!
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Is using Rocu stick on 103 or 103D will get us different PQ from netflix ???
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^ By my testing PQ for Netflix is better using the native app in the player rather than using the Netflix Channel on the ROKU Streaming Stick.
--Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob Pariseau View Post

^ By my testing PQ for Netflix is better using the native app in the player rather than using the Netflix Channel on the ROKU Streaming Stick.
--Bob

Bob, Do both the 103 and 103D use the same native app?
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^ Yes. All the Internet apps are the same for the 103/105/103D.
--Bob
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