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FlexRAID Data Protection ???

post #1 of 97
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Hello

I am new to FlexRAID and i want to buy it and try it and so on but before i do so i have question about Data Protection
How does FlexRAID actually protect the data if one of the drive died ???

I understand the One large pool concept but i still cant understand the protection part

Please look at this image to undertand what i am trying to say or ask

Thanks in advance




post #2 of 97
Take a look at my guides. I explain it there. Or do a search here at avs as it has been discussed multiple times.
post #3 of 97
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Take a look at my guides. I explain it there. Or do a search here at avs as it has been discussed multiple times.

Hello assassin good to see you in this fourm also so which guide you talking about ?

Thanks
post #4 of 97
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Hello assassin good to see you in this fourm also so which guide you talking about ?

Thanks

Look at Assassin's signature; there's a link for his blogs and guides and he has a section done on FlexRaid that should answer most of your questions.
post #5 of 97
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Originally Posted by AVTechMan View Post

Look at Assassin's signature; there's a link for his blogs and guides and he has a section done on FlexRaid that should answer most of your questions.

Hi

why do i have to go to his blog ?

Thanks
post #6 of 97
Thread Starter 
Hi

giving example of parity backup this wont work well for me as all sata ports are full and all drives are full so not sure if i am out of luck or what can i do to slove my issue

Thanks
post #7 of 97
Short term solution: copy the contents of D: among the free space on the other drives, then use the now empty D: as a parity drive

Better solution: add more drive ports with a SATA or SAS card, then get more HDDs
post #8 of 97
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Originally Posted by Airbander View Post

Hi

why do i have to go to his blog ?

Thanks

Because I have spent the time to put it there for you as an easy reference. It's free for all now.
post #9 of 97
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Originally Posted by Airbander View Post

Hi

why do i have to go to his blog ?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by AVTechMan View Post

...he has a section done on FlexRaid that should answer most of your questions.

The answer to your question is in the post you quoted.
post #10 of 97
Even easier for you: http://assassinhtpcblog.com/server-flexraid/
post #11 of 97
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Even easier for you: http://assassinhtpcblog.com/server-flexraid/

Hello assassin

i already book marked you site yesterday thanks so you have an old blog very organized and no add or thing like that and it is not wiki based love your work
Nice site really keep the hard work.

So FlixRaid Data protection , i run into one issue i dont have disk space anymore so parity drive wont work

1- No hard drive space

2- No more Stat Space

3- No more power space

I am MAX OUT completely , so if i use flexraid it will be only for data pool only

Not sure what else to do here NAS are expensive and cheapest one are around 300 bucks

Thanks
post #12 of 97
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Originally Posted by jim2100 View Post

Short term solution: copy the contents of D: among the free space on the other drives, then use the now empty D: as a parity drive

Better solution: add more drive ports with a SATA or SAS card, then get more HDDs


Hi Jim2100

1- No hard drive space

2- No more Stat Space

3- No more power space

I am MAX OUT completely , so if i use flexraid it will be only for data pool only

When i say i am MAX out i am not joking that picture is little old since then i replace 1 TB drive with 4 TB drive and fully max out on all drives now

Thanks
post #13 of 97
No available USB ports?

Bill
post #14 of 97
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Hi

I have alot of USB and 2 USB 3.0 and 2 e-sata and some other ports why ?
post #15 of 97
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Originally Posted by Airbander View Post

Hi

I have alot of USB and 2 USB 3.0 and 2 e-sata and some other ports why ?

Get an external 4TB USB3 drive and make that your parity drive.

Bill
post #16 of 97
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Get an external 4TB USB3 drive and make that your parity drive.

Bill

I thought about it but worried of the heat kill the extranl drive ?
post #17 of 97
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Hello Guys

There is more into my issue but i am trying to fix it all by planing for it first but if someone really interested in my issue here are some info

1- http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/15381/what-would-you-do

2- http://community.mediabrowser.tv/permalinks/14409/can-t-read-from-the-source-file-or-disk-error

3- http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/306774-hard-drive-images-not-showing-up.html

Here are 2 Video of my setup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrjq0D6-BH4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ei84VKfIXQ

see heat killed 4 drives so far since 2008 till now at all times i was able to fully recover all my data but this time when my 1TB drive went bad i took me almost 1 month of trying so so so many software to recover my data and finally i recovers 80% and i am going to RMA this drive if it is still under warranty

I am thinking to use flexraid with Crushplan for backup and protection and one Pool this time but running into issue of space and No funding

Thanks
post #18 of 97
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I thought about it but worried of the heat kill the extranl drive ?

Then just buy a bare drive and hook it into an esata port wink.gif

Bill
post #19 of 97
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Then just buy a bare drive and hook it into an esata port wink.gif

Bill

Hello Bill

Cant do no space let on my PC , as i said i am MAX out of space , power , sata port so if i use e-sata the drive will set outside and heat is huge issue for me

Here are 2 Video of my setup and pc , once you watch it you will undertand my issue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrjq0D6-BH4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ei84VKfIXQ

Heat is huge issue no fans and no power , my pc is shutdown for almost 2 weeks as i am trying to figure this out

Thanks
post #20 of 97
If you want protection against a drive failure then you either have to add another drive to your existing PC using USB or a SATA expansion card OR build a media server. You could build a server for $300 that would be expandable up to 12-16 drives. It sounds like you are running out of room in your current PC and I'm betting your storage needs are constantly increasing so you will probably eventually need a server anyway so I say build one sooner rather than later. The only other thing you can do is replace your 2TB drives with 4TB drievs and move things around to free up a drive to use as your parity drive. This will work but if you are constantly acquiring data then eventually you'll need to add physical drives.
post #21 of 97
Are there filters in front of those case fans?

Bill
post #22 of 97
Maybe start by deleting crap you will never watch again. I know I can pare down my collection with the simple question of "will I ever watch this again".
post #23 of 97
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Maybe start by deleting crap you will never watch again. I know I can pare down my collection with the simple question of "will I ever watch this again".

already did that remove all duplicate and extra stuff 2 TB worth of stuff deleted
post #24 of 97
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

Are there filters in front of those case fans?

Bill

Hi Bill

Yes these are filters i need to clean them but no worried as my server is shutdown so dirty filter is not an issue lol
the case is DF-85 and it comes with 7 fans and i added more so total of 10 fans in the system to keep it cool

Thanks
post #25 of 97
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Originally Posted by wsume99 View Post

If you want protection against a drive failure then you either have to add another drive to your existing PC using USB or a SATA expansion card OR build a media server. You could build a server for $300 that would be expandable up to 12-16 drives. It sounds like you are running out of room in your current PC and I'm betting your storage needs are constantly increasing so you will probably eventually need a server anyway so I say build one sooner rather than later. The only other thing you can do is replace your 2TB drives with 4TB drievs and move things around to free up a drive to use as your parity drive. This will work but if you are constantly acquiring data then eventually you'll need to add physical drives.

This is my server and DF-85 Case can take Max of 10 Drive

Thanks
post #26 of 97
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Originally Posted by Airbander View Post

Hi Bill

Yes these are filters i need to clean them but no worried as my server is shutdown so dirty filter is not an issue lol
the case is DF-85 and it comes with 7 fans and i added more so total of 10 fans in the system to keep it cool

Thanks

So is it not booting up? I was in a similar situation space wise and ended up purchasing a San Digital 8 bay tower and a PCI esata port replicator. I also moved as much as I could to my biggest drives prior to building my parity when the time came around.

Bill
Edited by mrfattbill - 10/8/13 at 9:40am
post #27 of 97
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Originally Posted by Airbander View Post

This is my server and DF-85 Case can take Max of 10 Drive
Thanks
Have you considered adding a 5-in-3 enclosure in the 5.25" bay? That would give you room for 5 more drives.
post #28 of 97
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

So is it not booting up? I was in a similar situation space wise and ended up purchasing a San Digital 8 bay tower and a PCI esata port replicator. I also moved as much as I could to my biggest drives prior to building my parity when the time came around.

Bill

Out of my budget but thanks
post #29 of 97
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Have you considered adding a 5-in-3 enclosure in the 5.25" bay? That would give you room for 5 more drives.

Hi yes i thought about looking into something like this




It is 100 bucks in NewEgg but i am not sure if it will fit in my case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121405

My case df-85




OR i can wait for this guy to go to $129.99 and then buy it





Thanks
post #30 of 97
Thread Starter 
Hi

here is the link for

SANS DIGITAL TR4UTBPN 4Bay USB 3.0 / eSATA Hardware RAID 5 Tower RAID Enclosure (no eSATA card bundled)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816111149
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