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post #151 of 386

Well returned my samsung un65f7100 for the sony xbr 65x850a...It gets delivered on monday from Bestbuy..I was having all king of motion and ghosting issues with the samsung during football and was originally going to get samsungs 4k but the salesman convinced me that I would be happier with sony in that department so here goes nothing( but a extra 2 grand..lol)...I did not get the extra 4k player sony has though...going to wait and see..as i understand better choices coming out in the future. 

post #152 of 386
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Originally Posted by admranger View Post

I like these settings so far on mine.
No plans to have a pro calibrate it at this point. It looks to me so much better than my old sony xbr4 lcd tv's picture (which I did have calibrated) that there isn't the need just yet.

I'm on DTV and have been for quite some time (a decade or more).


I hear DTV is workig on a 4K receiver?
post #153 of 386
I did a second calibration last night with my calibration disc on the brightness. I am now running it near 40/ Is that where most of you have ended up? I saw the posted settings with it near 50. Just curious.
post #154 of 386

Newbie question Got the 850 delivered this morning ..Hooking a sony ht st7 soundbar up to it and it says to use the hdmi (arc) or the optical output from the tv..I have the cable box going to hdmi arc so am i better off hooking the soundbar optical and leaving the tv on hdmi(arc)?

post #155 of 386
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Originally Posted by CYPUNK31 View Post

Newbie question Got the 850 delivered this morning ..Hooking a sony ht st7 soundbar up to it and it says to use the hdmi (arc) or the optical output from the tv..I have the cable box going to hdmi arc so am i better off hooking the soundbar optical and leaving the tv on hdmi(arc)?
I don't have the Sony TV yet. But from reading the HDMI ARC port is to output audio and video over HDMI to a receiver.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
post #156 of 386
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Originally Posted by CYPUNK31 View Post

Newbie question Got the 850 delivered this morning ..Hooking a sony ht st7 soundbar up to it and it says to use the hdmi (arc) or the optical output from the tv..I have the cable box going to hdmi arc so am i better off hooking the soundbar optical and leaving the tv on hdmi(arc)?

It's better to use the HDMI port with ARC. This way you just have 1 x HDMI cable instead of 1 x HDMI + 1 x Optical cable.
post #157 of 386
I called sony..I have the hdmi arc from tv plugged into hdmi arc of the sound bar then then cable box and xbox 1 plugged into the other hdmi ports on the sound bar .seems to be working good
post #158 of 386
Anyone have an opinion as to how much longer these sets will be available? I know new models are coming out spring 2014, according to Sony. I'm not too wild about Sony's 2014 offerings, so I'm thinking of picking up a 65X850A in the next few weeks. I've also seen on some online retailers websites that the current selling price of $4499 ends on Feb. 1st. This is a $500 discount off the regular $4999 price. I can't imagine the price going up after Feb. 1st with the new 2014 models coming out soon. I'm really hoping this model will be further discounted for a super bowl sale in the next week. Cheers.
Edited by Ace of Space - 1/23/14 at 10:29pm
post #159 of 386
With the new 2014 B series coming out this spring, is there really a big difference in picture quality between the 850A versus the upcoming 850B series? Wonder if the 850A models will be discounted when the 850B models show up.
post #160 of 386
Anyone know how to watch 4k content on this thing without the sony media player? I'm not even trying to watch a movie, just a sample to see how 4k looks. I've tried loading a file to a USB and it doesn't work, I've tried streaming and can't seem to find any 4k content on this thing, i've also tried connecting my MBP Retina via HDMI but that craps out also.. Any suggestions?
post #161 of 386
You can use the YouTube App on the TV and then type 4K Demo on the search bar. There are some really nice 4K videos. If you have a fast internet connection the 4K streaming should look flawless.
post #162 of 386
Anyone here using the Sony Entertainment thingy? I signed up and it says you need to add a device by entering the activation code from your TV - no idea where to find that.
post #163 of 386
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Originally Posted by daystar5 View Post

My Sony XBR-65X850A screen calibration settings.....

First a disclaimer: I'm not a pro tv calibrator, but I do have experience calibrating monitors with printers at a university print shop. I have a good knowledge of colour.
Also, my personal TV picture preference is 1) Bright  2) Crisp and Sharp 3) very slightly over saturated colours (1% to 3% approx.)
And, I hate 'motion enhancers' and never use them.

That said, I couldn't find any screen calibration settings anywhere on the internet that even came close to what pleases my eye
The below tip and settings work very well with most cable channels (Shaw cable box) and same settings work well with my PS3 for both mp4 720p videos and Bluray disks.

First, a tip:
Hit the HOME button, go to 'SETTINGS' -> 'PICTURE + DISPLAY SETTINGS'
Scroll down to 'PRO PICTURE SETUP'
Scroll down to 'DYNAMIC RANGE'
Set each HDMI setting to 'FULL' (by default, my TV was set to AUTO, and changing it to FULL made a big difference)

Now for my settings
( If I don't mention a setting, it's because it's either OFF or 0 )
I start with GENERAL/CUSTOM then hit RESET
Backlight - Max
Picture - 95
Brightness - 58
Color - 56
Hue - 0
Color Temp - Neutral
Sharpness - 64
Noise - Auto
Mpeg Noise - Auto
Dot - Auto
Reality - Auto
Video Area - Auto
Smooth Gradation - Low

Got to Advance Settings
Hit the RESET
Black Enhance - MEDIUM
Advance Contrast - MEDIUM
Live Color - MEDIUM
Detail Enhancer - MEDIUM
Edge Enhancer - MEDIUM

Some programs won't look perfect, but most will look great (in my opinion)
Feel free to tweak these settings to your taste.

Cheers

I input these settings last night, and I have to say, I really like smile.gif
post #164 of 386
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

Anyone here using the Sony Entertainment thingy? I signed up and it says you need to add a device by entering the activation code from your TV - no idea where to find that.

I called Sony. Even though my TV required a replacement board so I couldn't use it when I got it, Sony says I HAD to activate the unit during the period my unit was defective and they couldn't refund my money since the unit works now. That was after escalating my call twice. I'm done with Sony.
post #165 of 386
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Originally Posted by thelegend0210 View Post


I input these settings last night, and I have to say, I really like smile.gif

 

Thanks thelegend0210

I have since tweaked the settings to where I'm really happy with the picture.

 

New modified settings for my XBR-65X850A screen is as follows (New settings in bold)....

 

( If I don't mention a setting, it's because it's either OFF or 0 )
I start with GENERAL/STANDARD then hit RESET
Backlight - Max
Picture - 95
Brightness - 52
Color - 52
Hue - 0
Color Temp - Neutral
Sharpness - 72
Noise - Off
Mpeg Noise - Off
Dot - Off
Reality - Auto
Video Area - Auto
Smooth Gradation - Off

Got to Advance Settings
Hit the RESET
Black Enhance - MEDIUM
Advance Contrast - LOW
Live Color - MEDIUM
Detail Enhancer - LOW
Edge Enhancer - LOW

Any adjustments to Hue, Color Temp, Motionflow, or White Balance will each darken or dim the screen.

This is why I have set the adjustments with all of those settings set to off or zero, for maximum bright image without picture degradation.

Enjoy

-daystar

post #166 of 386
Did a simple calibration job myself with the Disney WOW BluRay and for anything coming from the PS3 I ran the BluRay on, it's great. For other inputs (Comcast/TiVo, 4K FMP-X1, etc) it looks like a wet dull blanket thrown over the TV. "Vivid" is the only thing that looks good there.

Not sure what to think of that!
post #167 of 386

I tried the Disney WOW Bluray on my PS3 too.

Was not completely happy with the results that I got..

 

As for the your other inputs not looking great...

Be sure to do the following 2 things:

 

1)

Hit the HOME button, go to 'SETTINGS' -> 'PICTURE + DISPLAY SETTINGS'
Scroll down to 'PRO PICTURE SETUP'
Scroll down to 'DYNAMIC RANGE'
Set each HDMI setting to 'FULL' (by default, my TV was set to AUTO, and changing it to FULL made a big difference)
 

2)

At the start of setting each set of calibrations, hit the RESET (It's just above where you set the BACKLIGHT level in the calibration settings)

then start inputing the calibrations.

 

Good luck.

daystar5

post #168 of 386
I just got my 65X850A last weekend. What does setting dynamic range to "full" do to the picture, as opposed to leaving it on auto?
post #169 of 386

Setting it to full, seemed to improve overall brightness, saturation and contrast on my tv.

post #170 of 386

Forgot to mention one other tip.

In Preferences:

Set the Light Sensor to OFF

 

If you have the Light Sensor set to ON, then in rooms with medium to low lighting, the TV picture will auto dim.

Not always a pleasing effect, but it's meant to lower your energy consumption.

 

-d

post #171 of 386
Thanks! Ill give those a try.
post #172 of 386
About 10 minutes after I first turned on my 65x850a, I was shocked to see how Sony had totally botched the 3D implementation. I called Sony about this and they told me that they would not review my photos that document the defect. Since it's a design defect, not a manufacturing defect, a replacement TV won't fix the problem. Now I have this 30 title collection of Blu Ray 3D and no hardware to watch them on. This happens only in 3D, not 2D, and is 100% repeatable on any 55/65X850a 4K TV. Of course the passive 3D sets (x900A) don't have this defect since only half the scan lines are present. av46.jpg 309k .jpg file
Any ideas on how I can get Sony to evaluate these photos? Comments?
post #173 of 386
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Originally Posted by roller11 View Post

About 10 minutes after I first turned on my 65x850a, I was shocked to see how Sony had totally botched the 3D implementation. I called Sony about this and they told me that they would not review my photos that document the defect. Since it's a design defect, not a manufacturing defect, a replacement TV won't fix the problem. Now I have this 30 title collection of Blu Ray 3D and no hardware to watch them on. This happens only in 3D, not 2D, and is 100% repeatable on any 55/65X850a 4K TV. Of course the passive 3D sets (x900A) don't have this defect since only half the scan lines are present. av46.jpg 309k .jpg file
Any ideas on how I can get Sony to evaluate these photos? Comments?

Not sure I understand?
post #174 of 386
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Originally Posted by roller11 View Post

don't have this defect since only half the scan lines are present. av46.jpg 309k .jpg file
Any ideas on how I can get Sony to evaluate these photos? Comments?

Can you tell me what movie/scene that is so I can test on my TV if I have that movie?
post #175 of 386
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

Can you tell me what movie/scene that is so I can test on my TV if I have that movie?

The scene is from Avatar near the beginning, about a minute in. But you can see this defect in every frame of every movie, every video, even in simulated 3D. All you need is a video source then turn on 'simulated 3D'. Even the pull down menu overlay has this deinterlacing artifact. Turn 3D off and scene is perfect in 2D.
I went to the local Bestbuy and Sony Style store, hoping that this was a manufacturing defect. Four out of the four x850a sets I checked out (3x 65 inch, 1x 55) have the defect, and BTW, the 1080P sets are OK. Next, I checked out the Panny, Samsung, Toshiba, Sharp UHD sets....they are all perfect in 3D, so this defect is not a side effect of upscaling from 1080P.
The sales guy at Sony Style couldn't very well deny the proof that was on the screen, so his comment was "if you move far away from the screen (1/4 mile??), you don't see the jagged edges". I could accept this but for the fact that all the other 4K sets don't have this misalignment of the scan lines, it's unique to Sony, and then only on the active 3D 4K sets.
Thing is, 4K material is non-existent on any brand other than Sony because Sony rigged their media player to not work on any non-Sony TV. Since Sony doesn't have active 3D (that actually works), and the other brands don't have 4K, I'm in the position of having to choose between 4K and 3D, I can't have both unless I shell out $5000 for a second 4K TV, like the Samsung. No way am I going to reward Sony for their design blunder. My only hope is that Sony will fix this in the 2014 TVs, doubtful since Sony's position is that there is nothing to fix.
I have until March 7, 2014 to return this TV to the retailer for a full refund, and that's exactly what I will do. The only question is which 4K (if any) will I replace it with? A shame really because 4 titles (Total Recall, Smurfs 2, Grown ups, Elysium) took my breath away when I saw the quality of the 4K images.
post #176 of 386
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Originally Posted by fjerina View Post

With the new 2014 B series coming out this spring, is there really a big difference in picture quality between the 850A versus the upcoming 850B series? Wonder if the 850A models will be discounted when the 850B models show up.
I couldn't find answer to this in fact I have a chance to get a used (7 month old) xbr55x900a for $2500 so I am confused should I wait for the new models or get this on
post #177 of 386
Hello,

I'm still a little unclear on that hdmi 2.0 upgrade / support. Are we really getting a full HDMI 2.0 upgrade when hdmi 2.0 comes out? As in will our TV be full hdmi 2.0 STANDARD on 1 or more ports or is it a compatibility thing. Do they come out to replace a board? It is a bit unclear to me.
post #178 of 386

Hello,

 

I have a 55x850a that I bought in January.  Picture quality is incredible right out of the box!

 

I recently visited YouTube to check out some 4k/UHD videos.  Our internet connection is provided by our neighborhood HOA, and it typically measures about 20Mbps download speed on our WiFi.

 

The videos provided on YouTube are impressive, but I noticed a bright horizontal line (about 1.5" long, about 1-2 pixels thick) in the upper right corner of the screen on most of the videos.  When it appears, it's always in the same location.  This line is not visible under any other conditions (Bluray, Satellite, broadcast, or Sony UI), but I don't have any other 4k sources to compare.

 

Has anyone else experienced this?  Is it an artifact of the YouTube App or it's compression codec?  Is this something that should concern me?

post #179 of 386
Torrent some 4K video samples - see if you have the same issue.
post #180 of 386
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

Hello,

I'm still a little unclear on that hdmi 2.0 upgrade / support. Are we really getting a full HDMI 2.0 upgrade when hdmi 2.0 comes out? As in will our TV be full hdmi 2.0 STANDARD on 1 or more ports or is it a compatibility thing. Do they come out to replace a board? It is a bit unclear to me.

Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
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