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post #61 of 371
Can someone here please tell me if MOTIONFLOW can be TURNED ON when watching Dtv Ch. 107 "3net 3D" ???
Thanks !!!
post #62 of 371
Ugh. Shipping company called to say it's been delayed. Now a Monday delivery. mad.gif
post #63 of 371
Anyone with this TV and the Oppo 103? Have you tried 3D yet? I can't get it to work.

I've tried disconnecting the HDMI from my AVP and going directly from the 103 to the TV. The TV reports 3D signal detected.
I tried pressing the 3D button on my remote - tv says 3D on
I put on 1 pair of glasses - light flashing green - still I either get things way out of phase like a 3" wide ghost from the image or no ghost but still no 3D
I put on another pair of glases - also flashing green - still no 3D
On the TV, I went to the home - then 3D settings - It says on, auto, auto, auto .. I've tried adjusting just about all - still no 3D through any of the glasses that came with the TV
On the Oppo, I've tried changing the screen size, depth - etc - still no 3D on the glasses.
I'm at the same level as the TV - clear line of sight - no 3D.
Tried turning on and off lights - no 3D.

Does it require two hdmi cables? I'm currently using one - when it said 3d signal detected I thought it only required one but I could be wrong as I've never set up 3D before. Again, currently it is going direct from the 103 to the XBR.
post #64 of 371
I have output 1 of the Oppo going directly to the TV and 2 to my pre processor.
3d display I have as off and Auto 3d on Auto 1 ; 3d Signal notification as On.
post #65 of 371
Thanks. And 3D video looks OK to you? Do you mind if I ask what processor you have?

I get 3D notification on the TV to tell me it is getting 3D however the picture does not look 3D at all - just like things are shifted/ have a shadow.
post #66 of 371
Sorry for the slow response. Internet issues.

My processor is the Sherbourn 7020A.

I'm using the pre amp for sound only as I have video going directly from the Oppo to the TV.

3D is ok but I recently switched over from a Samsung F8000 and the 3D looked better there. I usually don't turn the glasses on until they are on my face so that I can see the difference.
Again I found the Samsung had more depth. Not sure if it's a difference in the glasses or the TV itself.
post #67 of 371
Thanks for the response. I have no idea why 3D doesn't seem to give any illusion of 3D whatsoever. I've tried it on some plasmas and 3D seems OK.
post #68 of 371
so I'm very interested in this tv but I'm worried about the fact that it doesn't have protective glass for the screen. should I just go with the X900A?
post #69 of 371
wOriWS

On past LED's I have owned, they have never produced black levels this deep close to what my old ZT60 was pushing. Coming from 2 plasmas, I am very satisfied with the overall picture quality on the XBR.

post #70 of 371
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Originally Posted by admranger View Post

Ugh. Shipping company called to say it's been delayed. Now a Monday delivery. mad.gif

Wow. It just keeps getting better from the clowns at Amazon. This is clearly a first world problem, but I never thought I'd be disappointed to see at 65" Panasonic VT plasma show up at my house. Yep, they sent me the wrong TV. Not even the same brand!

Amazon's wonderful customer service person was unhelpful, offering me a refund (yeah, now that all the sales are over that'll do me a lot of good) or reorder and wait a week for another one. I chose the latter since I was bent over a barrel, so to speak. So other than "sorry" they offered no compensation, expedited shipping, or other good will to make sure I remained a reasonably satisfied customer. Very disappointing.

What really sucked was lugging the 108 lb Sony off the TV stand…and then getting to put it back up on the stand again.

frown.gif
post #71 of 371
If you are within your period of return maybe switch for a new set.. It's a pain but potentially worth it to get a set you are happy with.
post #72 of 371
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

Thanks for the response. I have no idea why 3D doesn't seem to give any illusion of 3D whatsoever. I've tried it on some plasmas and 3D seems OK.

OK - so it turns out I was being a dork about the 3D. The first pair of glasses doesn't work. I tried again with the second pair. The green light on the glasses doesn't indicate they are ready. I have to press them until they flash orange to sync up with the TV. You'll know they are engaged if you have a light nearby as they appear to have a helicopter blade effect when viewing light sources other than the TV.
post #73 of 371
post #74 of 371

Thanks!

I was at BB last night trying to taik them into discounting their set to $4k. They'd sell me an open box for $4k and give me 1/2 off the media player, but couldn't deliver any faster than Amazon's replacement was going to get here. Funny thing is the Sony rep was there and never said a word as I kept working them on price.

I did just send that link to Amazon for a price match. Sweet!

Thanks again for posting the BB link!

On edit: Just received confirmation of $500 refund due to the price drop! Excellent. Now, if they'd just get my TV to me. So far I've been waiting 16 days from the day the order was placed.
Edited by admranger - 12/15/13 at 6:42pm
post #75 of 371
Has anyone found the best picture mode for the TV? Im still playing around with it.
post #76 of 371
post #77 of 371
I just had my 65X850A calibrated by Gregg Loewen of http://lionav.com/new/?page_id=155 so I thought I would post my before and after measurements so you can see what an improvement can be had by having someone with a lot of experience, a great eye, and awesome equipment can achieve.

davidsony4kpanel.pdf 2417k .pdf file

As always I am totally impressed with what Gregg can do to improve an image.

In my book a cal by Gregg is money well spent!!!
post #78 of 371
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

I thought I would post my before and after measurements

The grayscale shift towards blue is rather common out of the box for many displays, and to me the rest of the pre-calibration information seems almost impressively bad. The post-calibration measurements don't appear to reveal anything overly glaring. I'll guess the 30% grayscale measurement might mean the TV gets a bit blue near black, similar to the Sound & Vision comments on the XBR-65X900A.

Thanks for posting. Apparently I would currently have to travel out of state to see the TV on display at Best Buy, so right now I'm on the fence if I want to roll the dice on buying without seeing one. Anyway, at the least the TV can be set to measure reasonably.
post #79 of 371
I too am on the fence, but the recent discount has me very close to pulling the trigger. My concerns are the feedback on the viewing angle, the lack of details on the hdmi 2.0 upgrade' and potential new models at CES. Anyone care to try and push me off one way or the other?
Edited by Drew_N - 12/18/13 at 6:02pm
post #80 of 371
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Originally Posted by discodol View Post

I just had my 65X850A calibrated by Gregg Loewen of http://lionav.com/new/?page_id=155 so I thought I would post my before and after measurements so you can see what an improvement can be had by having someone with a lot of experience, a great eye, and awesome equipment can achieve.

davidsony4kpanel.pdf 2417k .pdf file

As always I am totally impressed with what Gregg can do to improve an image.

In my book a cal by Gregg is money well spent!!!

So what are your settings just out of curiosity?
post #81 of 371
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Originally Posted by Drew_N View Post

I too am on the fence, but the recent orice savings has me very close to pulling the trigger. My concerns are the feedback on the viewing angle, the lack of details on the hdmi 2.0 upgrade' and potential new models at CES. Anyone care to try and push me off one way or the other?

I just got it - IMHO - I should have gotten the ZT65 instead. The blacks are better, the motion is better, I'm experiencing some handshake issues with the Oppo at 4K and yeah, the angles aren't that great. If you are sitting dead center and don't notice the motion issues the picture is amazing though. I too am concerned about the HDMI 2.0 upgrade.
post #82 of 371
What are your concerns with the HDMI 2.0 Upgrade?
post #83 of 371
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Originally Posted by SonyPhila View Post

What are your concerns with the HDMI 2.0 Upgrade?
when/if and will it really be 2.0
post #84 of 371
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Originally Posted by SonyPhila View Post

What are your concerns with the HDMI 2.0 Upgrade?

Will it be a true 2.0 upgrade and not just pieces of the HDMI 2.0 spec?

Will it apply to all HDMI ports on the TV?

Will it be delivered by the end of the year as promised?



Based on your name, I'm guessing you are a rep from the Sony store in the Comcast Center?
post #85 of 371

I remember reading somewhere that it would only apply to the HDMI 4 input, so only a single 2.0 port

 

My TV just had a software upgrade - will the HDMI 2.0 support come like that, as an OTA upgrade, or will it have to be upgraded via a USB drive? 

post #86 of 371
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Originally Posted by boe View Post

I just got it - IMHO - I should have gotten the ZT65 instead. The blacks are better, the motion is better, I'm experiencing some handshake issues with the Oppo at 4K and yeah, the angles aren't that great. If you are sitting dead center and don't notice the motion issues the picture is amazing though. I too am concerned about the HDMI 2.0 upgrade.

Thanks for the feedback. Until recently the ZT65 wasn't even on my radar. Motion is a key aspect for me as I watch a ton of hockey. The viewing angle is also a big deal as this will sit in a "great" room viewable from several other adjoining rooms. I'll be coming from Kuro and am concerned I'll noticing any shortcomings I took for granted for the past 6 or 7 years.

How does Sony release an XBR TV that has poor real world viewing angles? Seems really strange based on my previous experience with them.
post #87 of 371
HDMI 2.0 software update came out today actually for the X900A and for the X850A.
post #88 of 371
The HDMI 2.0 firmware upgrade was released on or around November 25th, 2013

XBR-X850A/XBR-X900A
All four HDMI inputs will be upgraded
They will support
4K Ultra HD at 60p (3840X2160) with a Max Color Depth (YCbCr 4:2:0) 8 Bit
But the 4K media server has to be connected to HDMI 4 because of the HDCP 2.2
post #89 of 371

Do you have the link handy? Looking for it right now. Thanks! 

 

EDIT: OK I found the link - is this available as an over the air update or do I have to download and install manually? Thanks! Nevermind, found the instructions 

 

http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-download.pl?mdl=XBR65X850A&upd_id=9375&os_group_id=18

post #90 of 371
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Originally Posted by Drew_N View Post

Motion is a key aspect for me as I watch a ton of hockey.

The way I read Cnet's PN60F8500 review, their calibrated TC-P60VT60 measured only 9.8 fL on a white field. That's rather dark for white on a TV, at around a third of the recommended white level for viewing in dim room lighting. I suppose using a gray with more blue might be brighter, yet another 5" of plasma screen probably wouldn't help with reducing brightness limiting. In the F8500 thread someone was complaining about watching hockey on the Samsung, and if the TV was varying even remotely along the lines of the 19 fL and 85 fL range of white reported in the Cnet review, I could completely understand how that might be distracting.

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I'll be coming from Kuro and am concerned I'll noticing any shortcomings I took for granted for the past 6 or 7 years.

My current TV is an SXRD, so admittedly we likely have different judgment criteria. By no means am I familiar with the various Kuro models, but I found it interesting that in spite of the internet ravings about what the the F8500 can do with white windows, the PDP-6010FD white field measurements from Sound & Vision were actually similar to the Cnet numbers on the current Samsung. Without seeing the Sony XBR or measurements, I guess motionflow impulse must be so dark that it cannot even hit these sorts of brightness limited numbers from plasma.
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