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post #1 of 145
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The Tomorrow People followed Arrow last night. I was half expecting this to be a pilot episode and out for me. That won't be the case as I actually enjoyed the hour. Truth be told I am a sucker for most shows that have sci-fi slant. It might go off the rails but until then I have a Wednesday 2 hour block on CW.
post #2 of 145
I like and record Arrow every week but Tomorrow People was a one(actually 1/2 since I stopped at ~ the 30 minute mark) and done for me.
I wouldn't say it was bad, just not my type of show and being a middle aged male I'm probably not the CWs target audience either tongue.gif (but I still like Arrow)
post #3 of 145
Very good episode. A much better "remake" than Beauty and the Beast.
post #4 of 145
I really enjoyed it. It was similar enough to the original from the early 80s to be recognizable, yet updated so it wasn't old and musty. I'll be watching in an uncommitted sort of way. In the original, they needed an assistive device to teleport anything over a trivial distance.
post #5 of 145
It just didn't do it for me, probably because I have fond memories of the first two versions. The TP are supposed to be wimpy, teen-aged geeks, not 20-something jocks!
post #6 of 145
I've never seen either of the two previous versions, but I do have probably a quarter century worth of X-Men comics, so the show's basic concept definitely wasn't anything I had never seen before. That said, I enjoyed the execution, and another hour of super-hero action on my tv screen each week is always welcome, so I'm in.
post #7 of 145
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It just didn't do it for me, probably because I have fond memories of the first two versions. The TP are supposed to be wimpy, teen-aged geeks, not 20-something jocks!
Unfortunately, that's the way it is with the CW.

Plus, productions are less likely to use kids now days due to tighter schedules that put too much demand on the limited hours younger actors can work.

Still, it would have been nice to at least have Stephen be closer to the age of his younger brother, especially since he's supposed to be still in high school. As it was, it appeared as though John (who was older in the original series) was younger than Stephen.

That's not much of a mentor, if you ask me.

Honestly, it might be nice to have had younger actors and have their characters be street kids to avoid the innevitable issue of Stephen's family become dead weight as the story progresses. Their only use in the future will likely be as leverage to get Stephen to do things he doesn't want to.

Still, I did like the first episode overall, so I'll stick with it for the time being.

In regards to being geeky and wimpy, though, I'll have to disagree. Several of the younger male actors had quite a following among school age girls in the 70's. In fact, their was a whole big thing of one character being phased out in favor of another who was better looking and more appealing to the audience.

Even back then, there was still a push for good looking people on TV.
Edited by NetworkTV - 10/11/13 at 4:19pm
post #8 of 145
The first half was a bit stilted with its heavy exposition, but it improved during the second half. I'll definitely be keeping tabs on this.
post #9 of 145
I liked it and think I will stick with it for a few episodes.
post #10 of 145
Same here, liked it will keep watching.
post #11 of 145
I give the Pilot a mild Thumbs Up.
Most particularly the Hottie.smile.giftongue.gif
post #12 of 145

Yep, wife and I liked it, we'll stick around for sure.  2nd half was a lot better and actually the twist at the end I didn't really see coming.  Nice.

post #13 of 145
Well after all the positive reviews here and the fact that my teen daughter really liked it, I rewatched the pilot(this time all the way through). I admit the second half was much better than the first half and while I don't think it will be a favorite, I'll be giving it a few more episodes. Actually I setup a Season Pass for my daughter but I'll be checking out at least the first few episodes and go from their.
post #14 of 145
I watched the first two episodes (third recorded) and find myself really liking this series.
post #15 of 145
Does Steve's ability to stop time qualify as a fourth "T"?
post #16 of 145
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I give the Pilot a mild Thumbs Up.
Most particularly the Hottie.smile.giftongue.gif

Very mild. Not sure where the plot will go. I liked that Stephen chose to be with his uncle at the end of the first ep. Now, I'm not so sure. The uncle is such a heavy handed villain that it doesn't seem like it can sustain for more than a couple of more eps. Plus Stephen isn't exactly a good mole. The uncle is really looking the other way way too much.
post #17 of 145
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The uncle is really looking the other way way too much.
The uncle mentioned in an aside to one of his operatives that Stephen is being set-up.
The idea is he would lead them to the entire group of Tomorrow People.
post #18 of 145
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Does Steve's ability to stop time qualify as a fourth "T"?

Yes, they said it in the show and was trying to figure out what to call out.
post #19 of 145
Great show, we are really loving it. Some really good effects. Small inconsistency in the use of the power are certain times, but that is to be expected I guess. We are on board for the long haul.
post #20 of 145
I wanted to give this a shot because of the sci-fi angle, and Peyton List ALWAYS deserves a look, but it just has too much of that CW kiddy stuff running through it. I realize that's the target audience, but if they could keep that toned down I'll stick around awhile longer.
post #21 of 145
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The uncle mentioned in an aside to one of his operatives that Stephen is being set-up.
The idea is he would lead them to the entire group of Tomorrow People.

Guess I must have missed that when I did a whole bunch of ff'ding.
post #22 of 145
I'm liking this show so far, but I was a bit confused at the beginning of the episode. Stephen getting Darcy as a partner was shown in the "previously on" segment, but that scene never happened in the second episode: it ended with Stephen overhearing his uncle saying how he was going to kill the Tomorrow People. Was that an editing error, or did I miss a scene at some point? It's not terribly important, but I thought it was odd.
post #23 of 145
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I'm liking this show so far, but I was a bit confused at the beginning of the episode. Stephen getting Darcy as a partner was shown in the "previously on" segment, but that scene never happened in the second episode: it ended with Stephen overhearing his uncle saying how he was going to kill the Tomorrow People. Was that an editing error, or did I miss a scene at some point? It's not terribly important, but I thought it was odd.

I spotted that too and thought I missed an episode.

I like this show so far. I don't think it's great television (the YA influences are far too strong) but it is fast moving and entertainingly shot and I like the teleportation effects. This has more in common with the movies Push and Jumper than the original Tomorrow People, but that's okay I liked those movies.

There really isn't anything new here that hasn't been already done in all the other YA fantasy genre taking over the media, but the actors are okay and the school scenarios remind me of Buffy and Veronica Mars. Mark Pelligrino is also convincingly dastardly and I like the fact he isn't operating in a grey area. The show almost lost me with the emo-kid stereotype and the TPs can get away with dumb stunts like the flash drive hack for now because they are still fairly naive in the fight, but I expect them to get smarter.

Hate that stupid computer though. In a show where the characters are loaded with gimmicks, the talking brain is just a pointless piece of superficial gadgetry. Especially when the best plan it can come up with for hacking Ultra is to stick a huge USB dongle in plain sight.
post #24 of 145
I'm particularly glad that they seem to be moving Astrid's involvement forward at a good pace. I'm so sick of shows where the protagonist has a deep, dark secret that he feels he can't share with anyone, so half the cast is forced to bumble along for entire seasons before figuring out what's going on (Grimm? rolleyes.gif). Her indignation at Stephen for hiding the truth was amusing, though, considering he already tried to tell her, and her response was that he needed to go back on his meds. She has no right to be upset that he won't confide in her.
post #25 of 145
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I'm particularly glad that they seem to be moving Astrid's involvement forward at a good pace. I'm so sick of shows where the protagonist has a deep, dark secret that he feels he can't share with anyone, so half the cast is forced to bumble along for entire seasons before figuring out what's going on (Grimm? rolleyes.gif).

I concur. Although that secret identity bugbear did raise it's head in a dumb way this episode when in order to stop the girl from killing herself they never considered not using any special powers. You know, like talking to the counselor, talking to her more or just following her around using regular means like feet and cars. The TPs couldn't intervene because it would have given away their secret and telkinetiportationapathy was the only way they could stop her!
post #26 of 145
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I concur. Although that secret identity bugbear did raise it's head in a dumb way this episode when in order to stop the girl from killing herself they never considered not using any special powers. You know, like talking to the counselor, talking to her more or just following her around using regular means like feet and cars. The TPs couldn't intervene because it would have given away their secret and telkinetiportationapathy was the only way they could stop her!
Yeah, that actually really bugged me.

Would it have been so hard to just walk up to the car and get in instead of teleporting into it? The scene still would have worked if they teleported to the location and teleported back home, but it was silly to have this overwhelming need to zap in and out of the car in pretty much plain view of the girl.
post #27 of 145
The thing that bugged me most about last week's episode was not so much the car teleportation as the lack of teleportation during the ambush. If you're a relatively helpless species that can't kill people and get surrounded by armed humans, the most logical move is to run away, which is quite easy if you can teleport. Instead, they waste time trading blows and risk getting knocked out or otherwise incapacitated (à la Cara), such that they then lose the ability to escape. Brilliant battle plan, guys! rolleyes.gif
post #28 of 145
I guess I'm the only one still watching. tongue.gif

It's good that we're getting more backstory on the characters, although I'm worried about this Tomorrow Person of the week rut that is already emerging. It's pretty anti-climactic to spend so much time touting the TPs' inability to kill, only to reveal within four episodes that not only is it possible to reverse that genetic trait, but it only requires a few shots to do so. This episode also revealed the John-Cara schism event that I expect will occur in a future episode.

Since all shows with a male protagonist follow the pattern of having sexual tension with an unavailable female protagonist who eventually leaves her current boyfriend for the male lead, we now seem to know how that will play out. Cara will eventually discover that John lied to her and has the ability to kill, which will make her decide to leave him for Stephen. The way she finds out will probably be in an event that forces John to kill somebody right in front of her in order to save her life, thus providing the maximum possible angst (but I can't leave him after he saved my life!).

I also can't fathom why any TP besides Stephen would work for Jedikiah. He makes his disdain for TP clear at every opportunity and kills any agent who fails to successfully complete a single assignment, so it makes no sense for so many TP to work for him to eradicate their own kind. It might make sense if he at least pretended to be a compassionate scientist who was trying to "help" them, but his goal is so clear that you'd think every TP would be fleeing for the underground hideout at the earliest opportunity.
post #29 of 145
At this point in the show I fully expect a TP of the week plot but they are doing a solid job of progressing the back story and arc.

I particularly like the fact they made the mother quite smart and not a gullible and oblivious character that doesn't have a clue something is amiss. Especially like the fact she is suspicious of Jedikiah. His Supervillain name callout was quite funny too.

However I didn't like that the show then went on to hint that the mother has some dark secret of her own. When there are not enough regular characters it just diminishes the uniqueness of the others.
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I also can't fathom why any TP besides Stephen would work for Jedikiah. He makes his disdain for TP clear at every opportunity and kills any agent who fails to successfully complete a single assignment, so it makes no sense for so many TP to work for him to eradicate their own kind.

It makes sense to me. Before the mysterious father defected there was no rogue group for anyone else to be found by before Ultra got involved. Most of the agents seem quite old so probably got recruited when they were young and have little other guidance to follow. It all depends on who gets to the kids first. If the TPs are not around then the new guys only have two choices - join or die. Most of them don't have control of the abilities to put up a good fight either.
post #30 of 145
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Originally Posted by Aleron Ives View Post

I guess I'm the only one still watching. tongue.gif

It's good that we're getting more backstory on the characters, although I'm worried about this Tomorrow Person of the week rut that is already emerging. It's pretty anti-climactic to spend so much time touting the TPs' inability to kill, only to reveal within four episodes that not only is it possible to reverse that genetic trait, but it only requires a few shots to do so. This episode also revealed the John-Cara schism event that I expect will occur in a future episode.

Since all shows with a male protagonist follow the pattern of having sexual tension with an unavailable female protagonist who eventually leaves her current boyfriend for the male lead, we now seem to know how that will play out. Cara will eventually discover that John lied to her and has the ability to kill, which will make her decide to leave him for Stephen. The way she finds out will probably be in an event that forces John to kill somebody right in front of her in order to save her life, thus providing the maximum possible angst (but I can't leave him after he saved my life!).
Dang, you're taking all the fun out of it!tongue.gif

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I also can't fathom why any TP besides Stephen would work for Jedikiah. He makes his disdain for TP clear at every opportunity and kills any agent who fails to successfully complete a single assignment, so it makes no sense for so many TP to work for him to eradicate their own kind. It might make sense if he at least pretended to be a compassionate scientist who was trying to "help" them, but his goal is so clear that you'd think every TP would be fleeing for the underground hideout at the earliest opportunity.
My thoughts too.
I'm at a loss here....

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At this point in the show I fully expect a TP of the week plot but they are doing a solid job of progressing the back story and arc.

I particularly like the fact they made the mother quite smart and not a gullible and oblivious character that doesn't have a clue something is amiss. Especially like the fact she is suspicious of Jedikiah. His Supervillain name callout was quite funny too.
+1

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However I didn't like that the show then went on to hint that the mother has some dark secret of her own.
Like the fact she knows where her hubby is and has conjugal hook-ups with?
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