Originally Posted by Dustylense
I singed up just to respond to your statements. As I am the one that did that ninja test.
Regarding the ninja recording rom the RX10....You state that the RX10 does not send out 422 (be it 8 bit). First, post a link that actually states and proves this.
Here is why you would use a ninja on the RX10 (even IF the camera was sending out 420). Higher bite rates so that you could deal with motion like blowing leaves or moving water. Interframe recording of what some might recognize as ALL-I recording. That alone is a major benefit.
Second. Record times. You can record off the ninja and RX10 for as long as you want as long as you have the power to the camera and recorder with and SSD keep recording.
Third: Workflow. No transcoding.
Fourth: Lets say you are shooting interviews and using the RX10 and your client wants to take home copies of the days shoot. You could record internally and just hand him off the SD card (charing him for it) and you take home your ready to edit Prores files.
There are many reasons one would want to record a "clean" signal out to a recorder, even if it were 420 8bit (which I'm pretty darn sure it's not).
Welcome. We are glad to have you, and also glad so that we can provide you with some information that will help you out. Most of what you say is either incorrect or irrelevant or theory, not fact. AS the Dest says, show us with a clip. I tested Ninja Pro Res on a very detailed scene and saw no difference (actual evidence posted to Vimeo, where you download the originals). Same codec on the camera I used as used on the RX10 (Rx10 better use of sensor info).
On your other points:
First, no Sony consumer cam has output 10-bit 4:2:2; the Panasonic GH3 does not, no Canon camera does through the 5D Mark III. If Sony were doing that with this consumer cam, they would say. YOU show where a credible source says that the HDMI output is 10-bit, or a clip.
Second, since recording time depends on the Sony battery (it must stay powered, obviously), the Ninja adds nothing because that battery will die before the Ninja battery and before the space on the 64GB card is used up. No advantage to SSD. Yes, you could plug in the Sony. But really, you want to record continuously for how long? 5 hours
continuous at 28Mbps (a 64GB card) is not enough continuous recording?
Third, there is no need to transcode AVCHD. What world are you in (old computer? old Apple software?).
Fourth, you are kidding, right? You would give the client the AVCHD version that you believe is (and surely will be) inferior to what you will eventually produce with editing?
Go on, show us the Sony HDMI output is 10-bit 4:2:2. The Ninja 2 will record it as 4:2:2 10-bit, of course, but to no avail if the output is 8-bit.Edited by markr041 - 11/30/13 at 3:03pm