Originally Posted by stefus
Over the past few weeks I've begun to realize that my SD CRT TV is no longer cutting it, while it's still working perfectly fine it is causing me a lot of eye strain when it comes to HD applications such as PS3. I figure that 10 years is a good run and that it is time to start looking for an HDTV. Initially I tried to avoid plasma because of the many horror stories I head of burn in, and because of what I assume would be a higher cost. However after some research I opened up to the idea of a plasma tv, so with that said my choice is narrowed down to either an LED TV or a plasma, with me heavily leaning towards a Samsung PN43F4500 do to its' price (I'm trying to stay in the $400 range). However I have some questions about plasma tvs, and HD tvs in general that hopefully some kind souls can answer:
I don't want to discourage you, but being realistic, 400 is a cheap tv. cheap, not inexpensive, cheap. if your CRT is a good one, you may find a decrease in overall performance. my first plasma was an entry level 1080p Samsung and it SUCKED compared to the CRT RPTV I replaced. if that's all you desire, no worries, but newer isn't always better. there's still a big range in quality, and there's a reason the best plasmas cost 2k and up.
1.How realistic is the possibility of burn in for video games or cable tv? I plan on playing some PS3 and Nintendo Wii U eventually, I usually play for a few hours a week, nothing crazy. As for cable tv I usually only watch an hour or two a night.
burn-in on plasmas today is pretty much on par to burn-in on crt's. there is image retention, where it'll vaguely remain for a couple mins to maybe an hour, but it goes away. I've been using plasma as my sole computer monitor for my HTPC for about 6yrs(5yrs on that cheap one I talked about above, and now I have the f8500) and I have zero burn in issues. gaming, and normal tv use should not even be a second thought. I browse the web for hours at a time(very high contrast, static images) and only get minor image retention that goes away quickly
2. Should I consider a 1080p LED LCD over a 720p Plasma? I've noticed a lot of people ragging on 720p, but all the 1080p plasmas seem to be out of my price range (~$400)
I really want to advise you to spend more. but if that's absolutely not a possibility, no. don't get an LED. if you are going to avoid plasma, get a CCFL backlit LCD. cheap LED's are the worst TV's on the market, by a long shot. just google 'LED clouding' and 'LED flashlighting' and you'll see what i'm talking about. edgelit LED backlighting is by far the trickiest and most difficult to get right. and because of that, no cheap LED TV's have got it right. you need to spend a lot of money to get decent performance with an LED backlight. plasmas are the better value, so if budget is number one concern, you always get a better bang for your buck with plasma.
3. Is it true that I absolutely CANNOT lean a plasma tv over? I dont plan too but I am curious.
plasma TV's have glass screens. glass breaks, large pieces of glass break easily. that's all there is to it, nothing more. I brought home my first plasma laying flat in my car, screen up though of course. 6yrs later, no issues. I imagine there must have been a lot that broke during transport in the early years, and salespeople have been conditioned to caution against it to avoid it from happening. for what it's worth, you wouldn't want to lay an LCD tv down on it's screen either if it's a glass screen.
4. Does anyone have any better reccomendations than the Samsung PN43F4500? I am also considering the 42'' Panasonic plasma for $400 (can't remember the model # off the top of my head)
i'm not at all a fan of Samsung's cheap plasma's. if you can't afford the f8500, I would look at Panasonic for sure. I don't know where the price range is on all of them, but I would definitely recommend a minimum of the s60 or st60 if possible. clearly you are somebody that will use the same tv for a long time if you like it, so spending 600bux now and being happy for the next 10yrs is a better value than spending 400bux and immediately wanting to upgrade to something better. only you can know how picky your are though. I speak from my personal experience. I waited 5yrs of being unhappy with my cheap plasma before I finally had a chance to upgrade and I wanted to make no mistake this time, hence the f8500.
5. Any other fun stuff I should know about HD or plasma tvs?
plasma tvs are dieing off. Panasonic is abandoning production soon, so it's not a bad time to buy one. but again, do it right, cause you may not have a second chance. OLED is set to replace plasma, but it's gonna be a long time before one approaches 400bux. this was also part of my motivation to go 'all out' get the f8500. I figured 4yrs from now, my options will be an expensive LED that doesn't look good to me anyway, or a SUPER expensive OLED that I probably can't afford.
the other thing coming down the pipe is UHD/4k, and again it's at a point where it's very expensive and probably will be for years to come. this probably won't affect value priced TV's though. I imagine the cheap LCD's will be relatively unchanged for a long time.