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post #61 of 114
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post


Setting that slider as far right as it goes creates massive overscan for me.

My problem is that I still utilize the desktop and with a 60" TV it is pretty easy to do from 12 feet. To get the scanning right for use of WMC and / or MPC-HC the desktop is overscanned where things are off the screen with the task bar being half obscured and the red X Close button and slider bar on the right side in Chrome being not usable either.
I'm not sure I understand your problem. I have the slider all the way to the right in CCC and everything is scaled perfect on my Panasonic plasma. No over or underscan on any program. Are you using 1920x1080 resolution?
post #62 of 114
We need a pic
post #63 of 114
Sammy, I was having similar problems with my new Panny plasma but got it to properly display (have an AMD Radeon 6450). I'll post my settings when I get home to see if they help. Took me a while to get everything to show.
post #64 of 114
check your zooming options on the tv. I dont have a panny, but pioneer called it full.
also, the pioneers had orbitor modes, which would move the picture around slowly to prevent burn in. as a result, one of the 4 sides would usually be off the screen slightly. do the pannys have a similar feature?
post #65 of 114
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The issue isn't so much that but rather my son uses the browser and YouTube on it a lot. I do some but mostly it is through WMC. I remote in for most maintenance stuff with a concurrent session.

Why cant AMD do this? nVidia does scanning perfectly.

Lol, AMD definitely "does this".

I have 2 Panny plasmas and 2 HTPCs that both have radeon cards in them, zero scanning issues. (Other than making sure you set WMC scaling to "television" and not "flat panel").

TV needs to be set to FULL and Size 2 for 1:1 pixel mapping.

Then go to CCC --->"My Digital Flat Panel" ---> scaling options --->set slider all the way to right for 0% overscan.

Be sure you're desktop resolution is 1920x1080.

If you do that and there is still something wrong, you have a defective part or fouled up another setting somewhere.
post #66 of 114
I have done exactly this, using the setting in the notification Window on the lower right. It is better but not quit right. The desktop is now scaled correctly but there's a row of about 4 to 6 pixels missing all around the perimeter of WMC and MPC-HC. For all I know it was like this before and I didn't notice it.
post #67 of 114
I did find one review that suggest different setting other than FULL and Size 2 for 1:1 pixel mapping. I'm sure the guys on here with Panasonic plasma's wouldn't steer you wrong, but it is worth a try.


http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1368523071
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PC AND MEDIA CENTER

In order to achieve 1:1 pixel mapping you need to select the aspect ratio called “16:9" in the TV settings. You also need to deactivate 16:9 Overscan.
post #68 of 114
one thing about the scanning slider on catalyst, you have to do it for each refresh rate you might use. i thought it wasnt sticking and was getting frustrated. turns out i had the slider all the way right for 60Hz but not for 23 or 24Hz.
post #69 of 114
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one thing about the scanning slider on catalyst, you have to do it for each refresh rate you might use. i thought it wasnt sticking and was getting frustrated. turns out i had the slider all the way right for 60Hz but not for 23 or 24Hz.

Well that doesn't bode well for automatic refresh switching in madVR, does it?
post #70 of 114
You just need to switch your windows desktop to 23Hz one time and check the CCC scaling slider. After that no problems with madvr auto refresh.

Also, always change your refresh in windows monitor settings, don't use the CCC refresh because there is a bug in them where if you set it at 23 it always reports 24.
Edited by Andy_Steb - 11/7/13 at 5:48am
post #71 of 114
Let me get this straight? I should run in 23.xxx all the time? This makes for a jerky picture in WMC Live TV because the refresh rate of the source doesn't match the display.
post #72 of 114
No,

Just run your desktop at 23.976 one time to insure that your scaling slider is in the right spot.

After that you can switch back to 59.94 all the time and let Madvr do its thing.
post #73 of 114
Okay. Good. I can do that. I'll report back.
post #74 of 114
Thank you renthx for that chart!

I have a i3 with HD2000. I've tried the first 3 levels of the chart and everything is running fine. My CPU and mem show 10-15%

Am I doing something wrong? I thought anything over level 2 shouldn't work for me due to my weak gpu. I followed the mphc setup thread and can confirm I am getting 23.976 refresh rate with a drop frame every 5 mins or so depending on the source material.

Any advice?


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post #75 of 114
Update: just tried level 4 and I noticed choppy play when mphc was NOT in full screen mode.
Full screen mode was smooth as butter.

Tried level 5 and got choppy play in both windowed and full screen mode.

I read somewhere that the recommended settings for an igpu hd2000 is level 2... Should I stick with level 2 or should I stay at level 4 seeing my playback is smooth?

Thanks for any advice


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post #76 of 114
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Update: just tried level 4 and I noticed choppy play when mphc was NOT in full screen mode.
Full screen mode was smooth as butter.

Tried level 5 and got choppy play in both windowed and full screen mode.

I read somewhere that the recommended settings for an igpu hd2000 is level 2... Should I stick with level 2 or should I stay at level 4 seeing my playback is smooth?

Thanks for any advice


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What was the resolution of the file you were playing?
post #77 of 114
I could never venture beyond "Level Two" with HD2000 on Blu-ray rips.
post #78 of 114
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

No,

Just run your desktop at 23.976 one time to insure that your scaling slider is in the right spot.

After that you can switch back to 59.94 all the time and let Madvr do its thing.

This fixed it but when when setting it to 23Hz it reverted to 24Hz. Either way it is all good.
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Okay. Good. I can do that. I'll report back.
post #79 of 114
The file was a 1080p Mkv of the dark knight rises. The size was about 12gb.


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post #80 of 114
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This fixed it but when when setting it to 23Hz it reverted to 24Hz. Either way it is all good.

ATI Bug. After all these years you would of thought they would of fixed it. If you set it at 23 just ignore what CCC is reporting.
post #81 of 114
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The file was a 1080p Mkv of the dark knight rises. The size was about 12gb.


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That is definitely a compressed copy of that movie. Do you have MediaInfo? What is the bit rate?
Edited by Sammy2 - 11/7/13 at 7:22am
post #82 of 114
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This fixed it but when when setting it to 23Hz it reverted to 24Hz. Either way it is all good.

ATI Bug. After all these years you would of thought they would of fixed it. If you set it at 23 just ignore what CCC is reporting.

This is good to know.. change hardware vendors and learn a whole new set of issues I guess. Now I can mail in that rebate card!
post #83 of 114
Thanks Sammy I will check that out
post #84 of 114
Update? Everything is ok ?
post #85 of 114
My XFX HD 7850 is working like a charm now. I cut the UPC off the box and mailed the rebate form yesterday.

Temps are the same as the GT 430 it replaced and it is louder of course but I am running madVR at level 5. My HTPC is in an enclosure so all I hear is the enclosure fans as I always have and they are nearly silent.
Edited by Sammy2 - 11/14/13 at 1:56pm
post #86 of 114
Awesome ! What CPU do you have ?
post #87 of 114
Clarkdale i3-550.
post #88 of 114
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Clarkdale i3-550.

Looks like we are in the same boat. I have a i3-530 with a GTS450. I was originally going to get a HD7790 but with the recent price drop I am looking to get the Twin Frozr HD7850. Did you notice a good improvement on video quality?
post #89 of 114
I don't know if it was huge and may be placebo but it is fantastic. Going from a 40" LCD to a 60" Plasma at the same time makes it hard to compare. I know that for $100 it was worth it.
post #90 of 114
It will be nice when Kaveri APU's come out, first of next year I think?

They are rumored to have HD7750 graphics power on die! The only downside is that it will still use DDR3 memory. That's pretty outstanding for HTPC use, especially very small form factor cases.
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