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The Xbox One for people who dislike gaming?

post #1 of 13
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The Xbox One seems to have quite a bit to offer the non-gamer. Does it make sense for a person who really doesn't care for gaming to buy an Xbox One? Does anyone have any ideas on this console from a non-gamer's perspective?

Philip
post #2 of 13
I thought that's the only people left who were buying them. JOKING!!!
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The Xbox One seems to have quite a bit to offer the non-gamer. Does it make sense for a person who really doesn't care for gaming to buy an Xbox One? Does anyone have any ideas on this console from a non-gamer's perspective?

Philip

What it is you would like to do as far as non-gaming features go? Based on your needs you can save yourself money and buy a 360 or PS3.
post #4 of 13
The non-gaming functions are a big sell for me and will likely get more use then gaming side of it! (between my GF and I) Over the past few years, gaming has taken more of a back-burner role in my life because of time constraints. But because of all the functionality that's going into it, it will be my primary box and because of its multitasking abilities, I'll probably end up getting more game time in.

I'm planning on selling off device's I'll no longer need because of having the functionality built in, like my blu-ray player and etc....
Edited by RandomNinjaAtk - 11/1/13 at 7:56am
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The Xbox One seems to have quite a bit to offer the non-gamer. Does it make sense for a person who really doesn't care for gaming to buy an Xbox One? Does anyone have any ideas on this console from a non-gamer's perspective?

Philip

If you don't care about gaming just get a Roku or AppleTV for $100. Even a $200 360 or PS3 would be overkill.
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If you don't care about gaming just get a Roku or AppleTV for $100. Even a $200 360 or PS3 would be overkill.

+1 . Roku 2 HD has been going under $60 brand new at RadioShack (check Slickdeals forum). I bought a LG Smart box for $55 from Frys and use it to stream my MKV's from the NAS on my router. Works perfectly.

X1 is basically trying to be "man of all trades BUT master of none". I love my 360 (and still keeping it) but this time around, I'm switching to PS4. From a next-gen console, I'm expecting things like 1080p gaming, excellent 3rd party support, quality exclusives AND affordability. For $500+taxes, I'm not going to settle for 720p gaming and excuses and as COD/BFversions have indicated, not the preferred console to devs to work on.
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+1 . Roku 2 HD has been going under $60 brand new at RadioShack (check Slickdeals forum). I bought a LG Smart box for $55 from Frys and use it to stream my MKV's from the NAS on my router. Works perfectly.

X1 is basically trying to be "man of all trades BUT master of none". I love my 360 (and still keeping it) but this time around, I'm switching to PS4. From a next-gen console, I'm expecting things like 1080p gaming, excellent 3rd party support, quality exclusives AND affordability. For $500+taxes, I'm not going to settle for 720p gaming and excuses and as COD/BFversions have indicated, not the preferred console to devs to work on.

As if you are really going to be able to tell anyway. And even if you could, it would be fractional. Also, Forza is 1080p at 60fps. 3rd party developers do not know how to use the additional 32MB ESRAM yet to take advantage of memory bandwidth. So most online journalist and writers are writing it off a meh, who cares what that does and are still trying to compare hardware vs hardware and you can't do that since there are differences. Also, Microsoft made some breakthrough a few months back before manufacturing that they were able to get better performance out of the xbox one. And according to articales, the SDK had some bugs and was not complete yet, so some games had to be re-certified. I don't think your going to see the xbox perform to it's true potential yet. Give it a year or two then you'll really see the benefits of what it can do. PS4 wins now only due to core hardware but wait until developers can fully use the hardware in the one, and it may be closer than you think.

That's the thing about 3rd party developers, your trying to get a game out based on the stronger system, but at the same time, trying to use features in the other system you don't yet understand how to use. This is what happened with the ps3. Also it's rumored that BF4 is running at 1080p on the one while COD is at 720p but still looks amazing.

One last thought, resolution isn't everything, but other technologies like texture blending and other parameters that will make the game look great. Just because it's at 720p doesn’t mean it's inferior, it could be that the developers can't optimize the game for the hardware on the one yet. Comparing the xbox one to the ps4 is like comparing apple juice with apple cider. THey are based on apples but the taste texture is different.

T's not all about resolution but how the consoles hardware + API can do for the games. Now I'm not contesting the PS4 has better hardware because it does. However, it has better hardware right now. Until devs can use the ESRAM and learn to fully optimize it for games, then I think you'll really see an improvement. Not to mention that Direct X 11.2 that will allow for a large amount of textures to be used very quickly over the API using tiled resources seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0VKmk5bmI. This will allow games with HUGE textures to be used very quickly and on the fly with no degration in quality of textures on the objects. I think the resolution is overblown. While resolution may be tighter on SOME games on the PS4, I think the differences will be negligible. And truthfully, I won't be playing a game going damn this 720p. Let me be clear some games may be 720p or 900p, that does not mean all games will be. Just like the PS3, as hardware improves, so will the games and how games for the xbox one are optimized. Their still going to look fantastic.
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As if you are really going to be able to tell anyway. And even if you could, it would be fractional. Also, Forza is 1080p at 60fps. 3rd party developers do not know how to use the additional 32MB ESRAM yet to take advantage of memory bandwidth. So most online journalist and writers are writing it off a meh, who cares what that does and are still trying to compare hardware vs hardware and you can't do that since there are differences. Also, Microsoft made some breakthrough a few months back before manufacturing that they were able to get better performance out of the xbox one. And according to articales, the SDK had some bugs and was not complete yet, so some games had to be re-certified. I don't think your going to see the xbox perform to it's true potential yet. Give it a year or two then you'll really see the benefits of what it can do. PS4 wins now only due to core hardware but wait until developers can fully use the hardware in the one, and it may be closer than you think.

That's the thing about 3rd party developers, your trying to get a game out based on the stronger system, but at the same time, trying to use features in the other system you don't yet understand how to use. This is what happened with the ps3. Also it's rumored that BF4 is running at 1080p on the one while COD is at 720p but still looks amazing.

One last thought, resolution isn't everything, but other technologies like texture blending and other parameters that will make the game look great. Just because it's at 720p doesn’t mean it's inferior, it could be that the developers can't optimize the game for the hardware on the one yet. Comparing the xbox one to the ps4 is like comparing apple juice with apple cider. THey are based on apples but the taste texture is different.

T's not all about resolution but how the consoles hardware + API can do for the games. Now I'm not contesting the PS4 has better hardware because it does. However, it has better hardware right now. Until devs can use the ESRAM and learn to fully optimize it for games, then I think you'll really see an improvement. Not to mention that Direct X 11.2 that will allow for a large amount of textures to be used very quickly over the API using tiled resources seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB0VKmk5bmI. This will allow games with HUGE textures to be used very quickly and on the fly with no degration in quality of textures on the objects. I think the resolution is overblown. While resolution may be tighter on SOME games on the PS4, I think the differences will be negligible. And truthfully, I won't be playing a game going damn this 720p. Let me be clear some games may be 720p or 900p, that does not mean all games will be. Just like the PS3, as hardware improves, so will the games and how games for the xbox one are optimized. Their still going to look fantastic.

Speak for yourself. How do you know who will be able to tell the difference between games running at a higher resolution on the xbox one and ps4 ? How do you know how I or anyone else will perceive the differences as either very minor or quite significant ?
Regarding the SDK and tools, we are talking about Microsoft the developers of one the most widely if not the most widely used period development tools in the software industry - visual studio.
They have had just as much time as Sony to get their tools together - so maybe it isnt just the tools leading to this situation.
And yes the esram ram will be better utilised in the future whether as a result of better tools or developers getting more familiar with the Xbox Ones architecture.
However what you're ignoring here is that the PS4 has a very straightforward architecture AND a significant advantage in raw power.
Besides, do you think developers wont get more familiar with the PS4's architecture and get more out of it while they learn the Xbox One inside and out ?
post #9 of 13
I would be willing to bet many gamers sit too far from their HDTVs to perceive a difference between 1080p and 720p. I sit 14' from my 65”, way beyond the distance needed to see a difference. Everyone I know sits to far from their TVs to tell a difference. Fact is most rooms are large and people buy small HDTVs.

I will never base a console off of launch games. I have been around for almost every one and launch games will never show a systems potential. I could care less about the cod debate. They don't know either system well and both have a lot of room for improvement.
post #10 of 13
I sit nine feet from my 82" set when gaming/watching content. I could go even larger and be comfortable sitting at that distance. I think nine feet is around the recommended THX viewing distance for that size.

EDIT: Yes, THX recommends a viewing distance of 9.2 feet for an 82 inch screen. At least according to the distance calculator I found that shows THX and SMPTE distances.
Edited by aaronwt - 11/2/13 at 12:24pm
post #11 of 13
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Originally Posted by pmcd View Post

The Xbox One seems to have quite a bit to offer the non-gamer. Does it make sense for a person who really doesn't care for gaming to buy an Xbox One? Does anyone have any ideas on this console from a non-gamer's perspective?

Philip
Seems like a really bad idea. Not only does it cost a lot more than other living room media devices, but you also have to pay for a Live subscription in order to use most of those features (in addition to what you already pay for those individual services). For straightforward media features, buy an Apple TV, Roku, etc. And for more advanced features, buy a media focused living room PC.

Absolutely no reason to buy a Xbone if you're not a gamer.
post #12 of 13
Also check out Google TV to see if it matches stuff you're looking for. Having to buy xbox live to do anything but game with an xbox is a problem.
post #13 of 13
A cheap 360 slim for $150 isn't a bad deal if you need a media extender. Nothing else in my experience does the media extender function as well as an 360.
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