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post #31 of 62
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

A PC12+ is very close to two PC12-NSD’s basically.

SVS told me this exact information when I emailed them a couple of weeks ago. But they also told me that dual subs are usually considered better because it allows you to get smoother bass response through out the room. But if don't have space for two then a single PC12+ will work well. 

post #32 of 62
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Originally Posted by Hopinater View Post

SVS told me this exact information when I emailed them a couple of weeks ago. But they also told me that dual subs are usually considered better because it allows you to get smoother bass response through out the room. But if don't have space for two then a single PC12+ will work well. 

+1 That's good advice! Another option if you have the room is to do one + now and then another latter.
post #33 of 62
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+1 That's good advice! Another option if you have the room is to do one + now and then another latter.

That's a real good point. 

post #34 of 62
Go with with duals that fit your budget....no single sub will offer a decent response in a room that size. Imo dual PC12-NSD's is a better setup then a single PC12+
post #35 of 62
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Go with with duals that fit your budget....no single sub will offer a decent response in a room that size. Imo dual PC12-NSD's is a better setup then a single PC12+

Maybe so, but long term the single + might be the better option short term. It depends, a simple blanket statement doesn't suffice.
post #36 of 62
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

Maybe so, but long term the single + might be the better option short term. It depends, a simple blanket statement doesn't suffice.

Blanket statement?
post #37 of 62
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

Go with with duals that fit your budget....no single sub will offer a decent response in a room that size. Imo dual PC12-NSD's is a better setup then a single PC12+

Yes it could be better to bite the bullet short term with a single more capable sub and then add a second when the funds are available in 4-6 months or whatever? In the end the OP would.. you know bass.

EDIT> Going back over this thread in it’s entirety and considering past posts, I have no doubt we agree taking into account room size, no right or wrong here. In the end the OP will have to decide (different angles in thinking) in what his final solution/choice/performance will or should be. I would also suggest staying away from the JL as good as it is. In a room your size and stated criteria, you would be better served with other vented options instead of small sealed, especially considering the cost of a second unit.

Oh! Thinking about it there is one more option that hasn’t been brought up that would/might serve the OP well, that would be to go with dual PC-NSD’s now and get the $100 discount and then add a third at a latter date if room response requires or headroom. I know a guy that did that with three XV-15’s that seems to be in bass nirvana. happy-smiley27.gif
Edited by steve nn - 11/5/13 at 3:27am
post #38 of 62
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

A PC12+ is very close to two PC12-NSD’s basically.

True.  Wonder which would sound the best.  Probably the two?

post #39 of 62
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Originally Posted by Andrew Bush View Post
 

True.  Wonder which would sound the best.  Probably the two?

Sorry, just saw you wrote a response earlier.

post #40 of 62
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post


Yes it could be better to bite the bullet short term with a single more capable sub and then add a second when the funds are available in 4-6 months or whatever? In the end the OP would.. you know bass.

EDIT> Going back over this thread in it’s entirety and considering past posts, I have no doubt we agree taking into account room size, no right or wrong here. In the end the OP will have to decide (different angles in thinking) in what his final solution/choice/performance will or should be. I would also suggest staying away from the JL as good as it is. In a room your size and stated criteria, you would be better served with other vented options instead of small sealed, especially considering the cost of a second unit.

Oh! Thinking about it there is one more option that hasn’t been brought up that would/might serve the OP well, that would be to go with dual PC-NSD’s now and get the $100 discount and then add a third at a latter date if room response requires or headroom. I know a guy that did that with three XV-15’s that seems to be in bass nirvana. happy-smiley27.gif

LOL.  Awesome.

 

Thanks for the info.

post #41 of 62
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Originally Posted by Andrew Bush View Post

True.  Wonder which would sound the best.  Probably the two?

Dual subs have the potential to provide a smoother frequency response through a larger seating area. So I'd go with the duals. You could put the one to the right of your entertainment center, and the experiment with placement on either side of your fireplace for the other.
post #42 of 62
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True.  Wonder which would sound the best.  Probably the two?

I thnk you would be best served to answer the things Steve pinted out. Can you work another plus into the budget at a later date? How serious are you about getting the best out of your subwoofer system? If you are serious then you need to start researching rew and learning about the importance of a smooth subwoofer response. I would say in that size room start with duals, a single sub can not smooth any room modes, so dual NSD's would sound better. Now as Steve pointed out if you can save some coin and add another down the road then the Pluses would be a no brainer. One thing that is very common on this forum is upgraditis...dont leave yourself short. I would go above and beyond your initial budget and go for the gusto the first time around.
post #43 of 62
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True.  Wonder which would sound the best.  Probably the two?

Two, almost always two. At least that is what I have heard all over these forums and from SVS and PSA. Plus I found having two improved my bass a lot and I didn't even have my 2nd sub in a very good location.

 

Listen to steve and basshead. If you don't think you will have the $ to sink close to $2700 in dual PC12-Plus in the near future than go dual NSD's. But if you think you are willing to spend the extra cash on the better PC12-plus then its best to get the single now and add the second later. Or go crazy and buy both now. But I think you would also be very happy with dual NSDs.

 

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 One thing that is very common on this forum is upgraditis...dont leave yourself short. I would go above and beyond your initial budget and go for the gusto the first time around.

This is soooooo true. I have been bitten by this bug more than once and regretted a purchase I thought I was going to be happy with for a while only to want more in a few months. If a little is good than more must be better, right? Of course that usually means there will be less in your bank account. :rolleyes:

post #44 of 62
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Just wanted to see what you all thought. Still haven't quite decided which way to go yet. However, my friend told me he had something I needed to continue. I would only have the option for two or more. (2) JL e110 gloss for $2100.

What would you do?
post #45 of 62
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Friend of mine gave me the option to buy (2) new JL Audio E110 Gloss for $2100. I have only the option to buy two.

What would you do? Considering this will be my lay sub purchase for a long time, my budget is flexible. I guess the reason I'm asking is because,that is a good deal considering retail price.
post #46 of 62
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Sorry for dual posting. Thought first one didn't go through.
post #47 of 62
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The Optimum 10 won't have the output for a space as big as yours.

IIRC the MSRP of the E112 is $1,900. If you can get one for ~$1,000 that would be very tempting! The E110 isn't enough for your space.

What you think $2100 for (2) E110. I'll be honest. With how small the sub is and this one time offer on price, I'm leaning towards (2) JL E110 gloss. I'll let you all know how it works. Almost went with svs. Probably would have if i did one, but ultimately, I didn't like the idea of the two different looking subs on each side of tv. Since I'm doing two, and the small size of the e110 gloss, even though it's a sealed enclosure,with the two,I think it's going to rock.

Guess we will find out soon.
post #48 of 62
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Originally Posted by Andrew Bush View Post

What you think $2100 for (2) E110. I'll be honest. With how small the sub is and this one time offer on price, I'm leaning towards (2) JL E110 gloss. I'll let you all know how it works. Almost went with svs. Probably would have if i did one, but ultimately, I didn't like the idea of the two different looking subs on each side of tv. Since I'm doing two, and the small size of the e110 gloss, even though it's a sealed enclosure,with the two,I think it's going to rock.

Guess we will find out soon.

You can do much better then that with 2100.00 imo.
post #49 of 62
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Originally Posted by Andrew Bush View Post

What you think $2100 for (2) E110. I'll be honest. With how small the sub is and this one time offer on price, I'm leaning towards (2) JL E110 gloss. I'll let you all know how it works. Almost went with svs. Probably would have if i did one, but ultimately, I didn't like the idea of the two different looking subs on each side of tv. Since I'm doing two, and the small size of the e110 gloss, even though it's a sealed enclosure,with the two,I think it's going to rock.

Guess we will find out soon.

I hope that you are satisfied with your purchase. I would have sprung for dual E112.

Not to muddy the water, however, with your budget I would have also considered dual HSU ULS 15's which are on a Fall Sale in Satin Black the pair would run you $2,049 plus shipping.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls-15Dual.html

Let us know how you like the dual E110's.
post #50 of 62
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Originally Posted by Andrew Bush View Post


What you think $2100 for (2) E110. I'll be honest. With how small the sub is and this one time offer on price, I'm leaning towards (2) JL E110 gloss. I'll let you all know how it works. Almost went with svs. Probably would have if i did one, but ultimately, I didn't like the idea of the two different looking subs on each side of tv. Since I'm doing two, and the small size of the e110 gloss, even though it's a sealed enclosure,with the two,I think it's going to rock.

Guess we will find out soon.

I'm sure you will enjoy your new subs. I would have gone in a different direction but it's not my money so it doesn't matter what I would do. All that really matters is that you are happy with your purchase. So, enjoy.:)

post #51 of 62
It’s funny this thread wound up going the way I was going to finally suggest. It really seemed like you wanted the little tikes! Sure your paying a premium for output in size and they can’t compare to other options, but in the end you will have the two subs I think you really want. Size seems like a very big issue, so I can certainly understand. They are great little 10”rs, so I hope you can find the time to let us know what you think along with a few pics. cool.gif
post #52 of 62
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Originally Posted by steve nn View Post

It’s funny this thread wound up going the way I was going to finally suggest. It really seemed like you wanted the little tikes! Sure your paying a premium for output in size and they can’t compare to other options, but in the end you will have the two subs I think you really want. Size seems like a very big issue, so I can certainly understand. They are great little 10”rs, so I hope you can find the time to let us know what you think along with a few pics. cool.gif

Will do.

post #53 of 62
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Originally Posted by spyboy View Post


I hope that you are satisfied with your purchase. I would have sprung for dual E112.

Not to muddy the water, however, with your budget I would have also considered dual HSU ULS 15's which are on a Fall Sale in Satin Black the pair would run you $2,049 plus shipping.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls-15Dual.html

Let us know how you like the dual E110's.

I'm going to ask him about 12's just to see.

post #54 of 62
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I'm going to ask him about 12's just to see.

Yes, see what he can do on a pair of E112's. Nice to have the extra headroom. smile.gif
post #55 of 62
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Originally Posted by Andrew Bush View Post
 

I'm going to ask him about 12's just to see.

I did two E112 ash.

post #56 of 62
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Originally Posted by Andrew Bush View Post

I did two E112 ash.

cool.gif Nice bump!
post #57 of 62
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I did two E112 ash.

Nice! You should enjoy them.

post #58 of 62
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post #59 of 62
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i hooked one up and sold the other. One blows the house up. My next house,I will be sure to go with dual 15s. I'll have more space.

I'm very pleased with the sub. Sounds awesome. Perfect size and I hear no speaker distortion when speaker is hitting. You can really feel the sub. Every person that has heard it is amazed. Got a great deal on the two subs.
post #60 of 62
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Took a friend home that lives right behind me. Jet brother said he could feel the bass in his back yard on explosions from movie 2 Guns.
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