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For normal living room, JVC x35 or SONY HW50

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I am in China and x35 is 30% more expensive than HW50!
I am watching 2D movies in living room and don't play TV game or watching 3D. My living room is just normal one with good thick curtain, but no extra light control measures. My wall and ceiling both are white or light colors. I usually watches movies at night.

My throw distance is 5.3M and watching distance is 4M. My screen is 1.0 and 120 inches.

Questions:
1. Is my normal living room environment more appropriate for X35 or HW50? Brightness or dark level, which one is more important in my environment?
2. as X35 is more expensive in China, is it worthwhile the difference?

Many thanks!
post #2 of 11
i don't know what your opinion of a 'normal living room' is, but it's my understanding, and experience that to get the full benefits of the jvc's better blacks you need good light control and a dark room. you will notice the sony's brighter image and better motion handling in all rooms

having good light control and a dark room, i would never give up the jvc blacks, if anything i'd want darker. but in a situation where there will be some ambient lighting, the two projectors will be limited by the ambient lighting, and not the projector, so blacks would be about the same i think. only thing you give up with the sony is lens memory i guess.
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by fierce_gt View Post

i don't know what your opinion of a 'normal living room' is, but it's my understanding, and experience that to get the full benefits of the jvc's better blacks you need good light control and a dark room. you will notice the sony's brighter image and better motion handling in all rooms

having good light control and a dark room, i would never give up the jvc blacks, if anything i'd want darker. but in a situation where there will be some ambient lighting, the two projectors will be limited by the ambient lighting, and not the projector, so blacks would be about the same i think. only thing you give up with the sony is lens memory i guess.

Thank you!
As I will not adjust my lens frequently, i think lens memory gap shall not be big problem for me.
post #4 of 11
i'd lean towards recommending the sony for you.

the only things holding me back from saying the sony is definitely better are:
-I've never actually compared the two, I've only seen the jvc
-I have my jvc on it's dimmest setting, I still find it more than bright enough, so even though the sony is brighter, that may or may not actually matter to you
-while I never paid any attention to the lens memory before, i'll never buy another projector again without it now. it's made me want to buy a new 2.35:1 format screen so I can use it more often

but the reasons I think overall you PROBABLY should go for the sony:
-with a bit of ambient lighting, and a light colored room, the jvc does lose some of its impressive blacks. since buying the jvc I've done a lot to reduce the level of light in my room. it may not be necessary to get a good picture, but it might be necessary to see the difference between the jvc and sony. and this is really the only area where the jvc beats the sony
-the sony gives better motion performance, less input lag, and a brighter image.
-it costs less, but should give you pretty close to the same image quality in 2D, and better in 3D(just in case)

I had to choose my projector without demoing either, and I opted for the jvc over the sony mostly on price. the jvc was about 800bux cheaper for me.
post #5 of 11
Ahem! Interesting that JVC is made in China while Sony is still Japan.

For the price, go with the Sony which has slightly worse black comparing to the JVC. Lamp also costs less for the Sony if that matters. I found the newer JVC extremely bulky and back breaking. However, the JVC black is very mesmerizing.

For the record, I had the JVC RS45 and a Sony VW85 before.
post #6 of 11
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if i watch movie at night, is dark wall very important?
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by fightclub View Post

if i watch movie at night, is dark wall very important?

Yep - is about reflected light. It's important in the context of your question, especially. With light walls, the contrast advantage of the JVC will likely be negated, due to the amount of light reflected off the walls.
post #8 of 11
Your light colored walls will impact how black your darkest darks are, and will lower contrast - regardless if it is night or day. Your walls act like giant fill cards, the lighter they are the more light they reflect back into the screen.

You may not notice at first if this is your first projector, but over time you will probably want to paint your walls a darker color or use black curtains on the walls to get the best blacks. If you can't paint the walls then temporary curtains are a nice way to go since you can put them up only when you need them.
post #9 of 11
A projector with higher on/off contrast like the JVC will still produce better contrast in dark scenes even if you have light walls. Since the scenes are dark there isn't much light to bounce around the room to start with! It's mostly brighter scenes that suffer from reflections in white rooms. However, if you have any ambient light in the room at all (i.e. if the screen is not very dark when the projector is turned off), the dark scene advantage of the JVC will most likely go away.

If you don't plan using a 2.35:1 screen and the Sony is significantly cheaper, I think I would have taken that route. They are not that different to begin with. JVC slightly sharper, better contrast. Sony better 3D and better motion resolution. But the differences are not huge and they are still quite similar.
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by Drexler View Post

A projector with higher on/off contrast like the JVC will still produce better contrast in dark scenes even if you have light walls. Since the scenes are dark there isn't much light to bounce around the room to start with! It's mostly brighter scenes that suffer from reflections in white rooms. However, if you have any ambient light in the room at all (i.e. if the screen is not very dark when the projector is turned off), the dark scene advantage of the JVC will most likely go away.

If you don't plan using a 2.35:1 screen and the Sony is significantly cheaper, I think I would have taken that route. They are not that different to begin with. JVC slightly sharper, better contrast. Sony better 3D and better motion resolution. But the differences are not huge and they are still quite similar.

very true, and one reason I was still completely blown away by the x35 when I had lighter walls and a white ceiling. when it fades to black, my room actually looked black(takes my eyes a few seconds to adjust) and it's very impressive. I actually didn't notice much of an improvement with on screen contrast when I painted, but it helped make the room a lot less distracting.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
still have no chance to compare HW55 (which is said to have better black level, contrast ratio and even brighter than HW50) with JVC x35 on the same screen.
seems like choose HW55 is a safer choice as it shall be more flexible to environment like living room? JVC x35 is having great black level, however i am not sure if my living room could see such black level difference...
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