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post #151 of 185
Unfortunately it's people's insistence on sticking with SD DVD no matter what regardless of the Gulf in picture quality/bit rates between DVD'S and 1080p quality transfer blu-ray's.

Hence this crap we will be getting in downloads and the likes. Took years to get 1080P into homes yet (some) insisted on putting SD on through their displays. Now "apparently" U-HD will be the saviour of us all lol.

It would be yes, like 1080P would have been if the general public (i'm not talking about enthusiasts and experts) had got to grips with the fact they have HD displays capable of stunning HD but couldn't be that bothered (perhaps now and then) to do it and aunty Margaret took the safe option of buying DVD'S for Christmas stockings instead of forking out just a few dollars more for blu-ray's for the HD tv's at home that probably herself and family insisted on having at home.

Now these types of people who insisted consciously or sub consciously in keeping the SD debacle going are now all of a sudden going to drop their SD DVD's on their 1080P plasmas and LCD's to go for UHD/4K whatever you want to call it on yet again a new higher resolution capable display like the 720p and 1080p's before it.

Ain't going to happen...

Well not for a long time anyway.
post #152 of 185
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Originally Posted by morbidcorpse View Post

Is there a way to thumbs down? What good is price matching WHEN YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR TAX, gas money, wear and tear on your vehicle and TIME wasted on the trip, which for me, is the most valuable of commodities. Shun Amazon, more for me, spending less money!
Many of us have to pay sales tax on Amazon. Gas money? Wear & tear on your car? You just sound like a penny pinching scrooge. Have fun sitting in your cave while the rest of us enjoy the world around us, including retail stores, while breathing fresh air.
post #153 of 185
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Many of us have to pay sales tax on Amazon. Gas money? Wear & tear on your car? You just sound like a penny pinching scrooge. Have fun sitting in your cave while the rest of us enjoy the world around us, including retail stores, while breathing fresh air.
Thank you! I'll wear the penny pinching comment as a badge of honor! Now, we're getting off topic, but there are members of this community with almost unlimited resources. Perhaps you are one of those people? If so, that's great for you! But for the rest of us ballers on a budget, every penny scrimped and saved is a penny we can latter reinvest in our favorite hobby, home theater. And isn't that the reason we're all here? I can be a little abrasive in the way I express my thoughts. No disrespect was intended in my original post.
post #154 of 185
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Originally Posted by Stu03 View Post

Unfortunately it's people's insistence on sticking with SD DVD no matter what regardless of the Gulf in picture quality/bit rates between DVD'S and 1080p quality transfer blu-ray's.

Hence this crap we will be getting in downloads and the likes. Took years to get 1080P into homes yet (some) insisted on putting SD on through their displays. Now "apparently" U-HD will be the saviour of us all lol.

It would be yes, like 1080P would have been if the general public (i'm not talking about enthusiasts and experts) had got to grips with the fact they have HD displays capable of stunning HD but couldn't be that bothered (perhaps now and then) to do it and aunty Margaret took the safe option of buying DVD'S for Christmas stockings instead of forking out just a few dollars more for blu-ray's for the HD tv's at home that probably herself and family insisted on having at home.

Now these types of people who insisted consciously or sub consciously in keeping the SD debacle going are now all of a sudden going to drop their SD DVD's on their 1080P plasmas and LCD's to go for UHD/4K whatever you want to call it on yet again a new higher resolution capable display like the 720p and 1080p's before it.

Ain't going to happen...

Well not for a long time anyway.
I agree. I think you are stating things correctly here.
However, Each year sales on BDs go up and DVDs go down. Looking back I can remember in the late 90s how there was doubt whether or not DVDs would win out over VHS.
I think the move to UHD/4k will be difficult but inevitable. And I wonder if the slowness will allow something else to come along and take over. I don't know. One thing I think is true is that improvement has always been the direction and always will be; unless the dystopians win.
post #155 of 185
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post


Blockbuster Brighton Michigan closing, I bought 5 blu-rays, 12 theatre size candy bars, and 6 popcorn seasoning shakers.
Hard to see but it was 30 deg f and snowing here, look by the fire hydrant....too cold!!


They had 2 un-used PS3's, each went for $125...I would have gotten 1

 

I have to say I'm sad to see this store close.  The people that operated / managed it were very nice, friendly, and helpful.  This store really did go down hill after Blockbuster filed for bankruptcy and the purchase by Dish Network never revived it.

 

So this leaves a city of approximately 8000 people with a surrounding population of about 20,000 people with no video rental store other than Red Box.  Not good for us serious home theater owners.

 

We went in this past Saturday and bought 4 Blu-rays.

post #156 of 185
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

I agree. I think you are stating things correctly here.
However, Each year sales on BDs go up and DVDs go down. Looking back I can remember in the late 90s how there was doubt whether or not DVDs would win out over VHS.
I think the move to UHD/4k will be difficult but inevitable. And I wonder if the slowness will allow something else to come along and take over. I don't know. One thing I think is true is that improvement has always been the direction and always will be; unless the dystopians win.
The misguided utopians can wreak just as much, if not more, havoc as the dystopians.
post #157 of 185
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

The misguided utopians can wreak just as much, if not more, havoc as the dystopians.
I would say the damage would be the same. There is probably a normal middle viewpoint that is best.
post #158 of 185
A fair assessment. smile.gif
post #159 of 185
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

Blockbuster Brighton Michigan closing, I bought 5 blu-rays, 12 theatre size candy bars, and 6 popcorn seasoning shakers.

Hard to see but it was 30 deg f and snowing here, look by the fire hydrant....too cold!!


They had 2 un-used PS3's, each went for $125...I would have gotten 1
I have to say I'm sad to see this store close.  The people that operated / managed it were very nice, friendly, and helpful.  This store really did go down hill after Blockbuster filed for bankruptcy and the purchase by Dish Network never revived it.

So this leaves a city of approximately 8000 people with a surrounding population of about 20,000 people with no video rental store other than Red Box.  Not good for us serious home theater owners.

We went in this past Saturday and bought 4 Blu-rays.

Hey - a fellow Michigander smile.gif
Just curious - When you were there Saturday were the 2 PS3's gone or still for sale?

btw, we just held a HEMI meet in Clarkston...the next one will be in 2014.
post #160 of 185
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

A fair assessment. smile.gif

cool smile.gif

Home Theater has really increased in quality . I started in 2003 with an Infocus X1 projector in a crawl space converted into an HT. It is amazing how far things have come in ten years. Watching a 100" 1080 picture is a great way to see films. DVDs aren't as good as BDs but they are pretty good. It's a pretty great hobby.
post #161 of 185
I'm quite happy with 65". A projector wouldn't be (very) doable in my environment. biggrin.gif
post #162 of 185
Does anyone know if there is a list anywhere of where the remaining 300 stores are? I'm wondering if there is one near-enough to warrant a road trip for liquidation Blu-rays.
post #163 of 185
It was a good value for me. I used the mail service, and for 11 bucks a month I could have either a movie or a game sent to my house (negating the need for a gamefly account) and then simply drive to a nice and well kept store that was about a half a mile away from my house to do a quick movie exchange. Then I would just have to wait a few days for whatever was in my queue to arrive. It was nice to be able to casually browse around the store at all the titles, and not have to wait or feel pressured to hurry your at selection like at a redbox. Most of the employees were fun and nice college students that were helpful and sometimes had good recommendations. The convenience and price just happened to work well for me.
There are still a couple of store options though with Hastings and a fairly new Family Video that I need to check out. And I guess I'll probably go ahead and look into Gamefly as well.
post #164 of 185
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I'm quite happy with 65". A projector wouldn't be (very) doable in my environment. biggrin.gif

65" is huge! My daytime (Day lit) TV is 42".
post #165 of 185
The day that physical media disappears all you naysayers will regret it.

Technology, no its about profit margins.

People lost jobs...............
post #166 of 185
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Originally Posted by TheAstronaut View Post

Does anyone know if there is a list anywhere of where the remaining 300 stores are? I'm wondering if there is one near-enough to warrant a road trip for liquidation Blu-rays.

Honestly the prices were not really bargains, $6.99 for used bluray/dvds, and only 30% off for the new / un-opened ones, the candy had decent mark-off but still only 30%.

Hence I bought just 5 blurays, now if they were $2-3 I'd gone a little more collector happy biggrin.gif
post #167 of 185
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Originally Posted by TheAstronaut View Post

Does anyone know if there is a list anywhere of where the remaining 300 stores are? I'm wondering if there is one near-enough to warrant a road trip for liquidation Blu-rays.

Not worth a road trip. You'll get better prices Black Friday week end. Google Black Friday and check the ads at Target, Best Buy, etc.
Edited by b curry - 11/13/13 at 4:55pm
post #168 of 185
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

Hey - a fellow Michigander smile.gif
Just curious - When you were there Saturday were the 2 PS3's gone or still for sale?

btw, we just held a HEMI meet in Clarkston...the next one will be in 2014.

There were two PS3's that were in display kiosk's with the flat screens near the games, that's all I saw. Haven't been to a HEMI event as yet. I'm out by Winans Lake. There's still a mom and pop video store in the Kroger strip mall in Hamburg but they have a very small Blu-ray selection.
post #169 of 185
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Originally Posted by olyteddy View Post

To which I say Horse$#!t. I am not going to deny that Amazon has a great selection and is convenient but really, that's about the dumbest thing I've read on this forum. For the record I do buy stuff from Amazon but that doesn't make it the same as a store.

Amazon is a store, I assume you mean a physical store you walk into. If so it is not the same, but to me it is better, and I live in Australia and order from amazon.com, .uk and .fr frequently. My favorite thing is if I get a damaged collectors edition amazon asks me to donate the damaged set to a library and sends me out a new one at no extra cost. I wish my local stores where so understanding, but alas they are not (currently trying to have a gi joe steelbook and superman returns collectors edition replaced at a local store as they came damaged but they treat me like I am scum for daring to want an undamaged product).
post #170 of 185
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

I agree. I think you are stating things correctly here.
However, Each year sales on BDs go up and DVDs go down. Looking back I can remember in the late 90s how there was doubt whether or not DVDs would win out over VHS.
I think the move to UHD/4k will be difficult but inevitable. And I wonder if the slowness will allow something else to come along and take over. I don't know. One thing I think is true is that improvement has always been the direction and always will be; unless the dystopians win.

Yep it has risen year on year but nothing like was originally hoped for. Minimal compression 1080P broadcast and even true reference 1080P would have been enough for most.

There are blu-ray's around nowadays and have been getting better all the time that was the positive around the general global punter SD insistence.

But here we go again with a newer resolution and we'll get there in the end (or nearly like we did with 1080p)

And when we nearly get there once more it will all start again with talk of 8K which after that surely doesn't get much better.

But then again 1080P (or should I say great 1080P) was according to some visual specialists getting on to the limits what the 'good' human eyes can fully resolve.

So once we do get to 8K after 4K and it's bound to happen one day what next after that.

I'm beginning to wonder if i should just skip 4K and wait for 8K in about six years and just stick with stunning 1080p for now and (to me) lifelike details that brings for myself anyway.
post #171 of 185
Well, what do you know? I just got an email from Blockbuster:

"BLOCKBUSTER Liquidation! Buy Now in Store or Online!"

First I checked for stores. Apparently there ARE no stores in PA, MD, WV, or VA. (I tried the last two merely out of curiosity). Nope, none. Either it's true that there are no surviving stores in those states, or their website is incorrect.

Anyway, I clicked on the used discs (didn't see a way to filter for Blu-Rays only), and selected one at random. $7.99 for a used DVD. Surely you jest. tongue.gif
post #172 of 185
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Originally Posted by Stu03 View Post

Yep it has risen year on year but nothing like was originally hoped for. Minimal compression 1080P broadcast and even true reference 1080P would have been enough for most.

There are blu-ray's around nowadays and have been getting better all the time that was the positive around the general global punter SD insistence.

But here we go again with a newer resolution and we'll get there in the end (or nearly like we did with 1080p)

And when we nearly get there once more it will all start again with talk of 8K which after that surely doesn't get much better.

But then again 1080P (or should I say great 1080P) was according to some visual specialists getting on to the limits what the 'good' human eyes can fully resolve.

So once we do get to 8K after 4K and it's bound to happen one day what next after that.

I'm beginning to wonder if i should just skip 4K and wait for 8K in about six years and just stick with stunning 1080p for now and (to me) lifelike details that brings for myself anyway.

It'll take a big screen to make 8k noticeable to enough people to make it viable I think. Where do we go next? IDK. Maybe frame rate, although many people object to the video-like clarity. I would like to see what 60 fps would be like. Motion blur may have to be digitally inserted. But for slow camera pans it would be great. I hate how scenes look when slowly panned. The eyes kind of stop looking.
There is another thread that is talking about glasses-free 3D. That might become a regular part of filmmaking. Remember that sound and color were both denounced when they arrived on the scene. (long before any of us were born.)
Are we now getting the full PQ and AQ of our movies that is possible? Could bitrates and sample rates be done better by the studios? Are we still getting some transfers that were made for DVDs? Are we still getting edge enhancement that destroys the sharpness it was designed to improve?

Well, things are getting better. This is one of those hobbies that pays off pretty well.
post #173 of 185
I think things are stalling actually, with the near death of plasma and no equivalently sized OLED replacements. wink.gif Hopefully, only a short-term issue...
post #174 of 185
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

I think things are stalling actually, with the near death of plasma and no equivalently sized OLED replacements. wink.gif Hopefully, only a short-term issue...
Just got my last ever email from blockbuster...liquidation sale.
post #175 of 185
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Originally Posted by Kascnef82 View Post

Just got my last ever email from blockbuster...liquidation sale.

Like in the Canadian liquidation it will probably be in three stages, stage 1 not worth going to the stores, stage 2 meh and in stage 3 prices are finally decent but most stock is gone.
post #176 of 185
My gosh--I remember going to Blockbuster video as a child. There was something about browsing and reading the back of VHS cases and trying to convince my parents why my selection was better than my sister's selection, that really made renting movies an experience. Would I trade that experience for the ease with which movies are accessible today? Not a chance. Yet, the memories are fond still.
post #177 of 185
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

My gosh--I remember going to Blockbuster video as a child. There was something about browsing and reading the back of VHS cases and trying to convince my parents why my selection was better than my sister's selection, that really made renting movies an experience. Would I trade that experience for the ease with which movies are accessible today? Not a chance. Yet, the memories are fond still.

Yeah. Too bad the gain of accessible ease comes with such a cost. Maybe Mom and Pop video stores will reemerge. There are some around.

It's like libraries. I would hate to think that in twenty years or so we will have the expediency of ebooks at the cost of strolling the library shelves looking for something to read. And the lose of people connecting in subtle ways is not insubstantial.
post #178 of 185
So I went into one of the very few blockbusters in my town hoping to get some really good deals and I honestly was put off by the prices.

$10 for a previously viewed dvd? REALLY? You can get them cheaper at Target and Walmart NEW...

My wife made the point that I shouldnt expect much though because they are trying to get every last bit of money that they can but it's just rediculous in my opinion.
post #179 of 185
with black friday coming is it safe to say that any deals at blockbuster are all gone now, or still some to be had there??
post #180 of 185
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Originally Posted by mtbdudex View Post

with black friday coming is it safe to say that any deals at blockbuster are all gone now, or still some to be had there??
I'm not so sure there were any deals to be had at all.

You're talking about a company that has failed to "see it coming" for two decades now.

Apparently, they didn't see Black Friday coming again this year and opted to not have what could be considered any deals at all in comparison to what you can buy new elsewhere. Why pay $5 for used when new is $4.99 and $7.99?

They should have wrapped this stuff up before the cold weather hit when people would be out and about and more willing to browse and spend at their remaining stores.

Instead, now they're competing with price slashing on brand new titles everywhere else - including online. It's likely they'll be packing a lot of discs up to either be sold elsewhere or simply shredded.
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