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post #31 of 1002
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

Here are some pics it realy looks stunning...wink.gif

bj4m.jpg

What movie is this?
post #32 of 1002
Does the HW55ES have the exact same lens as the HW50ES?
post #33 of 1002
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Originally Posted by jamieuk147 View Post

Does the HW55ES have the exact same lens as the HW50ES?

I think so....But i am not sure....wink.gif
post #34 of 1002
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Originally Posted by ScAndal View Post

What movie is this?

It was some nature documentaire i thought it was life...But i am not sure..
post #35 of 1002
It is now on the Canadian Sony store, also $3,999, so a good deal, cheaper than the US site. There is one store selling for less that this it seems; I'm waiting for confirmation of the price.
post #36 of 1002
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Originally Posted by ElDucky View Post

It is now on the Canadian Sony store, also $3,999, so a good deal, cheaper than the US site. There is one store selling for less that this it seems; I'm waiting for confirmation of the price.

The final price (to end users) ain't $3999, is cheaper.
post #37 of 1002
While I'm watching football on a 32" LED and abstaining from movies until my 55ES arrives - can someone PLEASE post something about my future project so I can live vicariously through you guys????? wink.gif

Thanks.
post #38 of 1002
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Originally Posted by Aaronh View Post

While I'm watching football on a 32" LED and abstaining from movies until my 55ES arrives - can someone PLEASE post something about my future project so I can live vicariously through you guys????? wink.gif

Thanks.

Ha! I'm in the same mode. I have about a dozen movies that I want to see so bad but putting off until I get projector. Your 55ES ship yet? ETA?
post #39 of 1002
Still saying 20th-22nd. I sold my previous PJ 6 weeks ago when the 55es was supposed to ship by end of October. I too have a stack of new movies to watch. I'll be lucky to be caught up by Christmas!
post #40 of 1002
good day from greece,

aaronh i know how the feeling is, i was searching the internet daily for the past couple weeks to find any relevant info for the 55es
while i was waiting for the delivery,
finaly mine came on friday and on saturday they came home to install it,

my previous pj was a sony vpl hw80 from which i was very happy with the performance and the image quality
(worth arnd 5k euros at that time i.e 3-4 years ago),

we started to test few 1080p mkv files and... wow i was very impressed with what i saw,

the image quality and the colours were amazing, i have never seen such details in the image, the blacks? wow again... stunning

the brightness? oh boy, you can easily watch something with all the lights on...

hereunder is a photo with an s4 from a scene from wolverine mkv 1080p (my screen is 120'')
and the truth is that when you watch it live it looks even better



the pg was not fully calibrated, the technicial made some changes and he said that we will arrange for a proper
calibration in due course,

the only thing to be carefull is to use the reality creation in low levels i.e 5-10 otherwise you will have a lot of noise in the image,

and then it was time to test the 3d... i have 95 mkv 3d files most of them sbs,

for start we tried avatar and omg, omg and again omg i couldn't believe what i was seeing, the performance was amazing, no ghosting at all and at last
i was watching a bright 3d with perfect colors and quality, abt a month ago i tested thoroughly the jvc x35 and the epson 9100 and the 3d on the sony
is by far better,

and then the technicial told me a tip, on the film mode there is a mode called "game" and there the brightness is even higher... so for the 3d projections
we put it there and did on this mode the calibration.... and we put a 3d movie and believe me it was like watching a 2d movie in the terms of brightness,
i was so happy and satisfied and not only me but also my wife, the kids everyone,
we sit and watch yesterday the despicable me 2 in 3d and it was splendid (at the end of the movie dont turn it off, there is more after the credits and
there they have used some great pop up effects), some friends watch it as well and they say no way this is way better comparing to a cinema...

i watched also few parts from other movies, the quality and motion is still great (of course in some movies you will notice minimal ghosting for few times for few seconds but
i guess this has to do with the movie itself)

that's my ipressions so far and hope to all you guys to get it as soon as possible so to realize yourselves what a lovely machine we own...

best regards/george
post #41 of 1002

hey john2910,

 

These Pic's look nice ,what kind of screen you are using and what is the size ?

 

thanks,IB

post #42 of 1002
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Originally Posted by george4791 View Post

good day from greece,

aaronh i know how the feeling is, i was searching the internet daily for the past couple weeks to find any relevant info for the 55es
while i was waiting for the delivery,
finaly mine came on friday and on saturday they came home to install it,

my previous pj was a sony vpl hw80 from which i was very happy with the performance and the image quality
(worth arnd 5k euros at that time i.e 3-4 years ago),

we started to test few 1080p mkv files and... wow i was very impressed with what i saw,

the image quality and the colours were amazing, i have never seen such details in the image, the blacks? wow again... stunning

the brightness? oh boy, you can easily watch something with all the lights on...

hereunder is a photo with an s4 from a scene from wolverine mkv 1080p (my screen is 120'')
and the truth is that when you watch it live it looks even better



the pg was not fully calibrated, the technicial made some changes and he said that we will arrange for a proper
calibration in due course,

the only thing to be carefull is to use the reality creation in low levels i.e 5-10 otherwise you will have a lot of noise in the image,

and then it was time to test the 3d... i have 95 mkv 3d files most of them sbs,

for start we tried avatar and omg, omg and again omg i couldn't believe what i was seeing, the performance was amazing, no ghosting at all and at last
i was watching a bright 3d with perfect colors and quality, abt a month ago i tested thoroughly the jvc x35 and the epson 9100 and the 3d on the sony
is by far better,

and then the technicial told me a tip, on the film mode there is a mode called "game" and there the brightness is even higher... so for the 3d projections
we put it there and did on this mode the calibration.... and we put a 3d movie and believe me it was like watching a 2d movie in the terms of brightness,
i was so happy and satisfied and not only me but also my wife, the kids everyone,
we sit and watch yesterday the despicable me 2 in 3d and it was splendid (at the end of the movie dont turn it off, there is more after the credits and
there they have used some great pop up effects), some friends watch it as well and they say no way this is way better comparing to a cinema...

i watched also few parts from other movies, the quality and motion is still great (of course in some movies you will notice minimal ghosting for few times for few seconds but
i guess this has to do with the movie itself)

that's my ipressions so far and hope to all you guys to get it as soon as possible so to realize yourselves what a lovely machine we own...

best regards/george

Hello there you dont got any ghosting?

I got ghosting with my unit(could you please check sammys adventures,monster vs aliens(the bridge scene) and even dispicable me 2 ghosts..

Could you give me the exact calibrated settings for 3d please..

Best regards
post #43 of 1002
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Originally Posted by ibmhsa View Post

hey john2910,

These Pic's look nice ,what kind of screen you are using and what is the size ?

thanks,IB

Hello there i use a 1.3 gain screen and 100 inch..

Best regards
post #44 of 1002
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Originally Posted by john2910 View Post

Hello there i use a 1.3 gain screen and 100 inch..

Best regards


Make of the screen?
post #45 of 1002
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Originally Posted by booga24 View Post

Make of the screen?

Its a home made by gt design ..

Best reagrds
post #46 of 1002
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Originally Posted by soeasyseook View Post

I hope we see an overhaul of these SXRD projectors next year to better implement 3D, because right now it's a weak link in the Sony. Not as weak as the JVCs, but weak nonetheless.
pNEg

with all due respect but i totally disagree, last year all the testers and reviewers agreed that sony 50es was producing the best 3d (together with epson and by far better than jvc),
now for the 55es they say that is even better than it's predecessor, the first official very proffesional and serious test was done by projection homecinema france and eventhough
that the reviewer had some things to say against 55es for the 3d he was amazed...

quote

We also will award special mention to the quality of the 3D , which was obviously improved with traces of ghosting much more discreet than the HW50ES but without sacrificing the dramatic side effects spurts that are among the best on the market.


We liked:
Fluidity
Contrast
Color accuracy and gamma
Full menus
Minutes of the extraordinary 3D!!!!!!!!
Stealth operation

unqte

having said that 3d is one of the strongest cards of sony this year and not a weak link... in this price range you can't have the perfect 3d projector but still is remarkable what it can do in 3d projections

brgds
post #47 of 1002
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Originally Posted by soeasyseook View Post

I hope we see an overhaul of these SXRD projectors next year to better implement 3D, because right now it's a weak link in the Sony. Not as weak as the JVCs, but weak nonetheless.
pNEg

You maybe got me wrong,

But 3d is absolutly not weak...
This projector has the best pop outs i ever seen

Yes there is ghosting,but i am a ghost hunter..

Last night we watched journey 2 it has amazinig pop outs at moments..
And the colors and contrast and sharpnes is great..

But lcd and SXRD wil Always ghost a bit if you want ghost free you must go dlp..

And dont forget the 2d almost looks 3d;)
post #48 of 1002
Bottom line -- do you trust the reviewers or the end users on this forum? The reviewers do not live with the equipment for months at a time and they test the equipment with a limited amount of selected material. The bulb and X-talk problems of the JVC projectors of two yeas ago were first discussed here. If you had depended on the early reviews you would have never been ware of these issues.
post #49 of 1002
How are you guys dealing with Cinemascope 2:35 material and 16:9 material since the HW55ES has manual zooms?

What would my options be if I wanted to have a Cinemascope screen with this projector? Would i have to get an external scaler (lumagen) and/or motorized anamorphic lens?

I'd like to save a few bucks with the HW55ES over the VW500ES, but if this would neccisate buying a lens or scaler then I might as well sping for the latter as its motorized.
post #50 of 1002
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Originally Posted by scanido View Post

How are you guys dealing with Cinemascope 2:35 material and 16:9 material since the HW55ES has manual zooms?

What would my options be if I wanted to have a Cinemascope screen with this projector? Would i have to get an external scaler (lumagen) and/or motorized anamorphic lens?

I'd like to save a few bucks with the HW55ES over the VW500ES, but if this would neccisate buying a lens or scaler then I might as well sping for the latter as its motorized.


1. Adjust the zoom, focus and lens shift manually. (deal with off screen black bars and reduced brightness when zooming)
2. You could get just a Lumagen and let the Lumagen rescale the 16:9 image to fit your screen. (16:9 will not be full resolution)
3. Get fixed in place lens and adjust the zoom manually. (no scope 3D with this method, since projector does not do vertical stretch in 3D mode)
4. Get Lumagen and A-lens and use A-lens fixed in place. (Good brightness, no black bars and scope 3D, but reduced resolution in 16:9)
5. Lumagen, A-lens and slide. (This gets you everything, but costs more)
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post #51 of 1002
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

1. Adjust the zoom, focus and lens shift manually. (deal with off screen black bars and reduced brightness when zooming)
2. You could get just a Lumagen and let the Lumagen rescale the 16:9 image to fit your screen. (16:9 will not be full resolution)
3. Get fixed in place lens and adjust the zoom manually. (no scope 3D with this method, since projector does not do vertical stretch in 3D mode)
4. Get Lumagen and A-lens and use A-lens fixed in place. (Good brightness, no black bars and scope 3D, but reduced resolution in 16:9)
5. Lumagen, A-lens and slide. (This gets you everything, but costs more)

Thanks for this informative response!

For me any manual adjustments are out of the question as the projector will be in the ceiling that I would not want to adjust each time a format changes. So this leaves me with options 2, 4, or 5 with option 2 being the most appealing price wise.
post #52 of 1002
hi john, yesterdaty evening i managed to see in 3d the bridge scene from monsters vs aliens and 10 mins from sammy,

well there is bit of ghosting but only for 4-5 times and only for 1-2 seconds otherwise the image was crystal clear with perfect colors etc
(actually if you read the reviews for this movie in eg the review by bluray.com they say that there is a bit of ghosting so this is nothing
have to do with the projector but with the movie itself)

also sammy had even less ghosting and again only for few seconds which for me was unnoticeable otherwise i was amazed how good
it looks on 3d, amazing details and quality,

keep in mind that also few other factors except from the projector could play a role like the movie itself, the source that you are using i.e bluray player, media player etc
and if you have an original bluray disc or mkv rips, just imagine that i have tried only mkv rips and i am so impressed, i guess might get even better results with an
original bluray disc playing through ps3 for example

i saw in an earlier post that you are a ghost hunter... you shouldn't be as it takes you the pleasure to sit back, relax and enjoy a 3d movie
which is spectacular on this projector,

brgds/george
post #53 of 1002
George! Do you game on Hw55ES  and what type of games are you in to? 
post #54 of 1002
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George! Do you game on Hw55ES  and what type of games are you in to? 


i have most of the ps3 games, on sunday i put assasins creed to my nephew and i watched for 10 mins or so and didn't notice any problem,

i will try fifa and the last of us or gta5 lets say and i will let you know but most likely by tomo as i will be back home very late in the evening today
post #55 of 1002
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Originally Posted by george4791 View Post


i will try fifa and the last of us or gta5 lets say and i will let you know but most likely by tomo as i will be back home very late in the evening today

Thanx, George! It will be very helpfull!

Do you use 3D glasses? Any ghosting?

post #56 of 1002
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Originally Posted by weblogic View Post

Thanx, George! It will be very helpfull!
Do you use 3D glasses? Any ghosting?

you mean 3d in gaming? i have motorstorm apocalypse in 3d but haven't use it yet, will check this as well
post #57 of 1002

Yes! Stereoscopic 3D.

post #58 of 1002
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Originally Posted by george4791 View Post

hi john, yesterdaty evening i managed to see in 3d the bridge scene from monsters vs aliens and 10 mins from sammy,

well there is bit of ghosting but only for 4-5 times and only for 1-2 seconds otherwise the image was crystal clear with perfect colors etc
(actually if you read the reviews for this movie in eg the review by bluray.com they say that there is a bit of ghosting so this is nothing
have to do with the projector but with the movie itself) brgds/george

It's the projector technology that causes "ghosting" and not the source. IMO Bluray.com is completely out to lunch and so are all the other reviewers that claim that "ghosting" is a disc problem. This issue has been discussed on this forum many times and about 1 1/2 years ago we persuaded a reviewer to watch a disc he claimed exhibited lots of ghosting with a DLP 3D projector rather than his own. Guess what? He now saw no ghosting whatsoever and admitted he had been wrong and had incorrectly criticized the disc.

I have watched this "bridge" scene on both my 3D DLP and Epson 6010 and 6020 and have seen no ghosting whatsoever. The Epsons do occasionally show some light ghosting, but the DLP does not. I have gone over the exact same scenes that the Epsons show some ghosting again with the DLP and it shows none.

If you want absolutely ghost-free images then you need a DLP. If 3D is not particularly important to you then who cares. If it is, then at the moment there is no other ghost-free option that I know of without going with dual projectors, which is another viable option. The problem I have is that I am extremely sensitive to ghosting and I see it when literally none else does. I have to admit that it does bother me. I'm a big 3D advocate so I really do care.
post #59 of 1002
well noted "deja vu", i will not disagree that some projectors producing better 3d than others especially when you have done such research but i will not agree that ghosting is not a disc problem itself otherwise we have
to put in the same category avatar with green hornet lets say...

the bottom line is that fortunately i am not seeing much ghosting on the 55es and if i do for couple seconds i ignore it easily as the rest of the 3d experience gives me so much pleasure,
(on sunday i watched a couple of 3d movies with friends and family and oh boy we all were so happy and impressed with the brightness, the depth, the amazing pop out effects, the colours, the image quality,
and just to mention that have seen a lot of 3d on cinema and few times wasn't satisfied, have watched also on jvc x35 and my eyes were hurting and have watched also on epson 9100 which was enjoyable but i think the image
quality and colors are better on sony 55)

brgds/george
post #60 of 1002
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Originally Posted by george4791 View Post

hi john, yesterdaty evening i managed to see in 3d the bridge scene from monsters vs aliens and 10 mins from sammy,

well there is bit of ghosting but only for 4-5 times and only for 1-2 seconds otherwise the image was crystal clear with perfect colors etc
(actually if you read the reviews for this movie in eg the review by bluray.com they say that there is a bit of ghosting so this is nothing
have to do with the projector but with the movie itself)

also sammy had even less ghosting and again only for few seconds which for me was unnoticeable otherwise i was amazed how good
it looks on 3d, amazing details and quality,

keep in mind that also few other factors except from the projector could play a role like the movie itself, the source that you are using i.e bluray player, media player etc
and if you have an original bluray disc or mkv rips, just imagine that i have tried only mkv rips and i am so impressed, i guess might get even better results with an
original bluray disc playing through ps3 for example

i saw in an earlier post that you are a ghost hunter... you shouldn't be as it takes you the pleasure to sit back, relax and enjoy a 3d movie
which is spectacular on this projector,

brgds/george

hello there,

could you please make a picture through the glasses with the bridge scene from monsters vs aliens..

Because here the bridge scene continu ghosts on the hw55..

By the way i only use good full 3d disks..
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