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Has ANYONE tried the Elite Cinegrey 5D screen yet?

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#1 ·
I am looking for a screen to go with my Panasonic AE8000 and I have a very dark room with controlled lighting. Has ANYONE tried this screen material. Elite called me and recommended this over the standard cinegrey, and said the standard white would be good, but this would be the best of all, I'd like to hear of SOMEONE who has tried it.

55

Anyone? :)
 
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Originally Posted by tsteele93  /t/1501120/has-anyone-tried-the-elite-cinegrey-5d-screen-yet#post_23983220


I am looking for a screen to go with my Panasonic AE8000 and I have a very dark room with controlled lighting. Has ANYONE tried this screen material. Elite called me and recommended this over the standard cinegrey, and said the standard white would be good, but this would be the best of all, I'd like to hear of SOMEONE who has tried it.

55

Anyone? :)

They sent me a bunch of samples, I would suggest you do this for every product being considered. They tried to steer me towards the same material for some reason , they must be overstocked



Seriously though, this can be a really expensive purchase and you'll be surprised how different the products are .


How big is the screen you will use, what aspect and how far from the screen is your PJ? Are you going to watch 3D, that is important too?
 
#3 ·
Tried the Silver 5D and 3D was not impressed. The 1.8 gain is just not there . I would say it looks closer to 1.1. They claim, this is ok for passive and active 3D. It may be ok for passive, it does not work with the active glasses. In fact, just viewing the material in 2D without any glasses and it appears to be much dimmer than my 1.3 fabric. Same for the 3D .product . Works with ambient light like the Black Diamond product , I'm not sure that is what it was

advertized to do or not, very confusing IMHO .
 
#4 ·
Its super hard to find any reviews on the Cinegrey 5D material apparently. Anybody has any links with reviews/testimonials from other forums. I am trying to find a solution with ALR capabilities without breaking the bank with black diamond. How does this material compare with the SI black diamond or slate material? Also is it better to just stick with the powergain which seems to be have higher gain 1.8 vs 1.5,


In my case viewing angles are important and screen uniformity. It seems that black diamond may have a bit limited viewing angles and somewhat not 100% screen uniformity, or I could be wrong and this may have been resolved in current generations. How are the two elite products PowerGain and Cinegrey 5D performing in this category.


I understand that in light controlled room its better to go with a popular white and 1.4 gain or something but the ambient light in my case forces me to look for a trade off.
 
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Originally Posted by ghus  /t/1501120/has-anyone-tried-the-elite-cinegrey-5d-screen-yet#post_24302174


Its super hard to find any reviews on the Cinegrey 5D material apparently. Anybody has any links with reviews/testimonials from other forums. I am trying to find a solution with ALR capabilities without breaking the bank with black diamond. How does this material compare with the SI black diamond or slate material? Also is it better to just stick with the powergain which seems to be have higher gain 1.8 vs 1.5,


In my case viewing angles are important and screen uniformity. It seems that black diamond may have a bit limited viewing angles and somewhat not 100% screen uniformity, or I could be wrong and this may have been resolved in current generations. How are the two elite products PowerGain and Cinegrey 5D performing in this category.


I understand that in light controlled room its better to go with a popular white and 1.4 gain or something but the ambient light in my case forces me to look for a trade off.

I'm in the same boat as you, here is the guy who posted the youtube video who gave a little more description:

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/32468/current-living-room-setup?page=1&scrollTo=556612


"The CineGrey 5D material from Elite Screens is their answer to other brands' "ambient light rejecting" screen material -see, SI Black Diamond or dnp SuperNova. One thing to note about ambient light rejecting screens is this; they're not rejecting anything, they're merely more directional than traditional projection screens. This means that the angle with which your projector's lens is aimed at the screen will be mirrored back -albeit opposite or upside down -to your primary viewing chair(s). So if your projector is aimed downward at say 10-degrees (just spit-balling) then you need to make sure to mount the screen at such a height and sit far enough back so that your primary chairs are located somewhere in the vicinity of 10-degrees down of center. This will ensure that you get the brightest, most accurate image reproduction regardless of the lighting conditions in your room -provided of course your projector is the brightest source of direct light. So the screen itself isn't rejecting anything, it's merely reflecting back the brightest source of light in the room the most, which it assumes is stemming from your projector's lens. Sit off axis by too great a degree and the image does begin to wash out. If your off-axis angle also coincides with another light source, well, that source will be reflected back at you likely more clearly than the light coming from your projector. All so-called AMBIENT LIGHT REJECTING screens react this way.


In a light controlled environment the CineGrey 5D material becomes a light reflecting monster, meaning it can make your dull projector appear brighter than it really is. This also makes it prone to hot spotting and/or shimmer depending upon the source material. Again, this is not a knock against the CineGrey 5D but rather something you must consider when shopping for any ambient light rejecting screen material -SI or dnp included. Knowing that, and having lived with both SI's Black Diamond as well as dnp's SuperNova for a spell, I'd rather spend less for comparable performance which is why I side with Elite in this instance. The CineGrey 5D material is very comparable to the competition yet costs a fraction of the price. I believe prices for 100" diagonal EZ Frame screen with CineGrey 5D start at around $800 whereas a comparable SI screen will run you upwards of $2,699 plus shipping (100" Black Diamond G3, HD 1.4 gain fixed frame from Projector People)."


I think i'm going to pick one up and see how it goes.
 
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Yeah its impossible to find any respectable reviews from the known sites or anywhere from that matter. I asked for a sample though to test it with my projector and light conditions. I would not say I was satisfied. The hotspoting was pretty amplified like nothing I have seen before and I am rookie having only tested a small number of samples out there. the screen sample was wierd i have to say. It looked more like a cut out of huge plastic disposal bag than anything else. I know it may sound bad, but I would advice to order one for your self and experiment. Customer service was fantastic and even though I like other material from elite this one not so impressive for my taste. I actually got a portable screen from elite that is more like standard white 1.1 to be able to transport to family and friends but the opening in my home theater room for a good performing gray is still open.
 
#7 ·

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Originally Posted by ghus  /t/1501120/has-anyone-tried-the-elite-cinegrey-5d-screen-yet#post_24469792


Yeah its impossible to find any respectable reviews from the known sites or anywhere from that matter. I asked for a sample though to test it with my projector and light conditions. I would not say I was satisfied. The hotspoting was pretty amplified like nothing I have seen before and I am rookie having only tested a small number of samples out there. the screen sample was wierd i have to say. It looked more like a cut out of huge plastic disposal bag than anything else. I know it may sound bad, but I would advice to order one for your self and experiment. Customer service was fantastic and even though I like other material from elite this one not so impressive for my taste. I actually got a portable screen from elite that is more like standard white 1.1 to be able to transport to family and friends but the opening in my home theater room for a good performing gray is still open.

Do they have a 1-800 number? I couldn't find anything but online web chat on their site.
 
#16 ·
Nice! We have a couple of fearless trailblazers! I inquired Elite of the DarkStar screen they are offering under their premium line. It appears to be a DNP and Black Diamond killer. I spoke to a local seller this afternoon about this screen and unfortunately the prices I was quoted were killer too... a buzz killer!



This let me know the CineGrey5D is the best value I can get right now for the combination of higher gain and contrast. There's a few pics of the screen here on AVS that someone posted. The screen looked nice with a light on off to the side. Also on another forum there was a review with a pic of the screen with blinds cracked open to the side. The screen wasn't washed out at all.. not as dark as the higher priced black screens but still not too shabby for the price...
 
#17 ·
Why don´t exist 2.35:1 curve format with this surface screen?
 
#18 ·
I'm looking forward to this. Right now I have a Da-Lite High Contrast Matte White pull down screen and an Optoma HD20. I have trouble with uniformity due to waves in the fabric, and also I get this strange moire pattern in my whites from the resolution of the projector and "resolution" of the screen material kind of clashing.


This is used in a bright room. It's light-controllable, but with little kids around and such I prefer not to watch movies and game in the dark, so this screen really does look like the holy grail of material, and yet at a price I can afford.


My big challenge is mounting it. My existing setup pulls down in front of a big window. Since this is fixed, I'm going to build a hinged setup to fold this to the ceiling when not in use, similar to what this fella did in this thread .
 
#19 ·
Hey , I to am on the fence was going to get the Powergain but after calling Elite they said it's Discontinued and I should go with the Cinegrey cause it's much better anyway . Have ambient light that comes into the room during the day, could black it all out but would like it not so much of a dedicated cave. Bought a Epson 5030UB. Can't wait to see what your feedback is about the screen .
 
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