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post #31 of 290
To update my previous posts regarding the PQ quality with the 929 and my TV, I am happy to report that I can definitely see a visible improvement over the last day or so. I was watching tonight and it appears to look as well or about the same as it did when I had my 818.

I'm a firm believer in "break in" periods for HT equipment, and I'm thinking that that's what was needed for me. I've had my 929 on for close to a 100 hours now and it's looking good. smile.gif

So far the 929 is working out well for me. I'm also very surprised that there's hardly any activity here at AVS. The reviews on the 929 at amazon were very good though. I think anyone interested in a new AVR should definitely consider the 929. The features and price are just to good to pass up.
post #32 of 290
I upgraded my 875 to the 929 last month and I'm pretty pleased with it so far - the picture and sound for me is much improved with much better bass, but I suspect this may have been more a setup issue than the amp itself. I really wanted to up the technology in my system and also get some extra HDMI ports.

One thing that does bother me that I can't get a handle on is the Anynet+ connection with my Samsung E8000 - I can just about put up with the extra on-screen display from the TV, but I find that I can't keep the facility enabled and not have the amp auto-switch to TV/CD every time I spark everything up from cold. Once I've switched back to the proper input on the amp I can switch between sources just fine, even to a TV source (SmartHub, YouTube) and back, it's just at the very start. I think I'll just have to admit defeat and add an extra step to my Harmony Touch that sets the amp input a second time.
post #33 of 290
I finally got around to running MultEQXT32 tonight and man what a difference. I'm really glad I upgraded to the 929 from the 818.

Performance wise for me at least, this is a helluva great AVR for the money. Built in internet features I haven't messed with yet so I can't comment on those, but the sound on this thing with 11 speakers is flat out AWESOME.

More people need to buy this thing. biggrin.gif
post #34 of 290
Hi all,

Let me start by saying that for the price point, this receiver is tough to beat. 11.x channel processing with 9 channels of amplification.

However, I do have an issue, and I am not sure if there's a fix out there, or if I am the only one with the issue.

For whatever reason, I prefer to use "by-pass" mode for the video output. However, this simply does not work with my Playstation 4 (same with the Xbox 360, but the problem is less frequent). It will trigger regular HDMI synching/handshake issues. The screen will go black, then light back up. I've tried the usual fixes such as disabling deep colour on the AVR, and similar colour modes on the 360 and PS4. I've even disabled lip synching. Nothing seems to work, and I'm forced to use any video mode other than by-pass on the AVR to make these gaming consoles work properly.

By-Pass mode works quite well with my HTPC (nVidia GT-520 video card) though.

I am curious to find out if anyone else is experiencing this. Essentially asking the AVR to do less work ... is causing problems with the PS4 and Xbox 360? Seems strange.
post #35 of 290
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by scratchieepants View Post

Hi all,

Let me start by saying that for the price point, this receiver is tough to beat. 11.x channel processing with 9 channels of amplification.

However, I do have an issue, and I am not sure if there's a fix out there, or if I am the only one with the issue.

For whatever reason, I prefer to use "by-pass" mode for the video output. However, this simply does not work with my Playstation 4 (same with the Xbox 360, but the problem is less frequent). It will trigger regular HDMI synching/handshake issues. The screen will go black, then light back up. I've tried the usual fixes such as disabling deep colour on the AVR, and similar colour modes on the 360 and PS4. I've even disabled lip synching. Nothing seems to work, and I'm forced to use any video mode other than by-pass on the AVR to make these gaming consoles work properly.

By-Pass mode works quite well with my HTPC (nVidia GT-520 video card) though.

I am curious to find out if anyone else is experiencing this. Essentially asking the AVR to do less work ... is causing problems with the PS4 and Xbox 360? Seems strange.

Do you just have the video setting on "by-pass" or do you have it turned off? You may want to turn it all the way off - you will lose the OSD, but well worth it in my opinion. You can turn it off by doing this:

To by-pass video upconversion in the AV receiver, simultaneously press the VCR/DVR and RETURN on the AV receiver. While continuing to hold down the VCR/DVR, press RETURN to toggle until “Skip” appears on the display. Release both buttons.
To use the video upconversion in the AV receiver, repeat the above process until “Use” appears on the display and release the buttons
post #36 of 290
I tried the Onkyo app for my Kindle today and thought that was pretty cool for anyone who hasn't tried it out yet.

1 of the things I liked about it was the ability to just play any music I have on my Kindle through the 929.
post #37 of 290
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Originally Posted by Tom Riddle View Post

Do you just have the video setting on "by-pass" or do you have it turned off? You may want to turn it all the way off - you will lose the OSD, but well worth it in my opinion. You can turn it off by doing this:

To by-pass video upconversion in the AV receiver, simultaneously press the VCR/DVR and RETURN on the AV receiver. While continuing to hold down the VCR/DVR, press RETURN to toggle until “Skip” appears on the display. Release both buttons.
To use the video upconversion in the AV receiver, repeat the above process until “Use” appears on the display and release the buttons

Hi Tom,

I am anxiously waiting for 6PM to roll around so I can head home and try this out. This sounds like a very good solution!

I'll update as soon as I apply the change and play with the system for a bit.

Thanks in advance!

Bao
post #38 of 290
So to update. The old command to totally disable the video conversion is no longer working. Called support. Csr was not 100% sure but felt that the by pass mode from the picture adjustment menu is what replaced the old command. He took my info and has escalated the issue. Should receive feedback in a couple of days. I really hope there is a solution!
post #39 of 290
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by scratchieepants View Post

So to update. The old command to totally disable the video conversion is no longer working. Called support. Csr was not 100% sure but felt that the by pass mode from the picture adjustment menu is what replaced the old command. He took my info and has escalated the issue. Should receive feedback in a couple of days. I really hope there is a solution!

Just checked, the Onkyo tech is right. It references it on page 22 and 74 of the manual. With it in bypass mode, is the OSD working?
post #40 of 290
Hi again. Yep in bypass mode the OSD is not displaying. I have even disabled the deep colour feature on the avr. Still issues in bypass mode with the ps4. With the avr's video converter engaged it works. But I am not happy with what the avr does to the image. I prefer bypass mode! What astounds me is that bypass mode is asking the avr to do less work!
post #41 of 290
I will try another hdmi cable and a different hdmi port tomorrow. I am not convinced that the ps4 is not at fault. I just don't see how it is though.
post #42 of 290
Thread Starter 
Truly an odd issue. I'm with you, I don't care for the video processing either.
post #43 of 290
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Riddle View Post

Truly an odd issue. I'm with you, I don't care for the video processing either.

I really hope that there's a solution to this!

Deep colour disabled on the AVR.

The Xbox 360 in Game 1 HDMI port. Has the same issue, but fairly infrequent... perhaps once or twice an hour in by-pass mode. Any other mode, no issues but it looks like crap.

The PS4 in Game 2 HDMI port. The problem sometimes goes away, sometimes for large chunks of time, but usually it's 3-4 times per minute. Any other mode, no issues but it looks like crap.

HTPC (nvdia GT-520) in PC HDMI Port. NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER in By-Pass mode.

So what I will do is try my PS4 (since it's the easiest device to re-produce this problem), and plug it into the HDMI port that the HTPC is using right now, using the same cable that the HTPC is using. If the problem goes away. I will then swap the HDMI cable that the PS4 is currently using and test it into the PC HDMI port on the AVR. If the problem goes away, then it's likely that the GAME ports on the 929 are oddly not working/broken, and well the next step should be logical.
post #44 of 290
Guys, Im looking at an AVR to use as a pre pro until I can buy something crazy down the road later.

It appears the 828 and 929 use the same Brown Burr DAC's as last year. I do not need audyssey because it will be getting a pro cal, so can you think of any reason not get an 828 vs a 818/929?The refurb pricing on an 828 is crazy right now.
post #45 of 290
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Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

Guys, Im looking at an AVR to use as a pre pro until I can buy something crazy down the road later.

It appears the 828 and 929 use the same Brown Burr DAC's as last year. I do not need audyssey because it will be getting a pro cal, so can you think of any reason not get an 828 vs a 818/929?The refurb pricing on an 828 is crazy right now.

If you plan on keeping this as part of your main system for the future. The thing about the 929 that I really like... is that it does up to 11.x channels of processing, still a fairly rare feature.

The 9 channels of amplication comes out very nice and clean with my SVS speakers too.
post #46 of 290
I wont be more than 7 channels, and of course the amp power doesnt factor in here since Ill be using it as a pre pro only.

Itll be HDMI In to 828, analog outs to Outlaw amp.
post #47 of 290
Ah here's a handy tool,

Apologies if reseller links are not allowed:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Nsg488qnwhW/compare_580TXN828_580TXN929/Onkyo-TX-NR828-vs-Onkyo-TX-NR929.html

The big thing would be Auddyssey Multi EQ vs XT32
post #48 of 290
Guys,

A quick question about a simple set up. I admit I have not gone through the manual fully yet.

I just connected my bluray player to AVR through HDMI and then HDMI main out to TV. When I played a movie, I was not getting sound through TV speakers. I dont have any speakers yet, but just wanted to test basic functions. Any quick guide to audio set up for this? I just need the video and audio to come on the TV. Thanks!
post #49 of 290
^^
You'll want to set the Audio TV Out (Main) to "ON" (p. 79 OM).

post #50 of 290
Quote:
Originally Posted by gadgtfreek View Post

After all that, my determination is I want something along the lines of a 1010, with XT32 and Sub EQ. I could get an X4000 now, but Im just going to use the 6007 and watch and wait. I was wondering if the upper tier Onkyo's had gone to 2 year spans kinda like Denon has done on their upper line.

Yes, they have. The 929 is the highest model to be released for 2013. smile.gif
post #51 of 290
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yes, they have. The 929 is the highest model to be released for 2013. smile.gif

Thanks. Ive been racking my brain trying to decide because Chad B comes for a cal within 30 days. I just cant swing a new pre pro right now, and since any other AVR as a pre pro would be a sideways move from the SR6007 as a pre pro, I'll just have to sit and see what Onkyo and Marantz do for 2014.
post #52 of 290
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
You'll want to set the Audio TV Out (Main) to "ON" (p. 79 OM).


JD, Thanks!
Need to do some homework, I just printed out the whole manual. biggrin.gif
post #53 of 290
Thread Starter 
Scratchie,

What do you have the video profiles set at on your XBOX 360 and PS4? For example, the 360 has the expanded black levels with options of Standard, Intermediate and Expanded (going off memory, so could be differently named). The PS3 had a similar option, stardard and expanded I believe. This opens up the expanded, computer level, RGB black levles. I'm curious if you have it set beyond the standard if it is causing the issue. May be far off, but might be worth a shot.
post #54 of 290
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Originally Posted by Tom Riddle View Post

Scratchie,

What do you have the video profiles set at on your XBOX 360 and PS4? For example, the 360 has the expanded black levels with options of Standard, Intermediate and Expanded (going off memory, so could be differently named). The PS3 had a similar option, stardard and expanded I believe. This opens up the expanded, computer level, RGB black levles. I'm curious if you have it set beyond the standard if it is causing the issue. May be far off, but might be worth a shot.
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Originally Posted by Tom Riddle View Post

Truly an odd issue. I'm with you, I don't care for the video processing either.

Hi Tom,

Let's start off with covering the major components in my setup.

Samsung 64PND550 (with HDMI 1 re-labeled to PC-DVI mode for the lowest possible input lag on this TV).
Onkyo 929
Sherbourn PA 7-150 amp (likely no bearing on the issue at hand).
All HDMI cables on a day to day basis are ioGear HDMI 1.4 cables, sure not expensive, but I like the nylon wrapping :P
http://www.iogear.com/product/GHDC1405P/ (various lengths, but nothing greater than 16 feet).

Sony PS4
Xbox 360 Slim (Halo Reach Edition)
NVidia GT520 based HTPC.

The issue at hand is regarding the By-Pass setting on the AVR (before we go further, setting output to Standard may induce some input lag, but IQ seems to be very close to By-Pass)

As mentioned before, By-Pass mode works with zero issues with the HTPC. And it's plugged into the HDMI "PC" port on the AVR.

I've tried various reference colour settings on the Xbox 360, Standard, Intermediate and Expanded (Expanded being the best IQ). No combination of anything is problem free while in By-Pass. But since I don't play online games on the 360 at the moment, standard video output mode on the AVR and expanded on the Xbox 360 works perfectly fine. And while I would prefer By-Pass, I'm tired of trying to figure it out on the 360. It also doesn't glitch as often as the PS4 so even if I think I've figured it out, it probably isn't... so I'll just stick to standard video output on the AVR for now!

The big issue to me is the PS4, it's the newest toy and I'll probably be using it more and more in the future. Using any combination of suggested AVR settings as well as setting RGB to auto, limited, and full .... always causes glitches in By-Pass mode on the AVR. I even tried restricting it to 720P output on the PS4 just in case. It still happens. So I figured well at a very basic level gaming consoles are just cheap PC's, the HTPC is fine, so I unplugged the HDMI cable from the HTPC and attached it to the PS4. No dice. Same problems. So I figure hey, maybe for some reason the TV doesn't like it (though in the past it wasn't an issue with the Denon 2307-CI). I unplugged the HDMI cable from the AVR, and tried it directly with the PS4... and alas, RBG and YCBR set to auto, limited, and expanded... NO ISSUES. Which means the PS4 probably has no issues with those modes. The cable from the AVR to the TV is also probably problem free. So I figured one last thing, Sony supplies an HDMI cable with the PS4, decided to try that from the PS4 to the AVR to GAME 2 port (same as before). Still the problems remain. So I said screw it. Until Onkyo comes up with some better ideas, I'll just set the video output on the AVR to Standard on GAME 2 as well. Sure it might induce some lag, but it looks almost as good as By-Pass (supposed to be identical).
post #55 of 290
Thread Starter 
If you're still within the return period, I would exchange the 929 and see if you get similar results. It sounds like you have checked everything and it must be the 929.
Edited by Tom Riddle - 12/21/13 at 6:47am
post #56 of 290
Gadgtfreek, I would suggest leaving the 818 out of the equatioin as it's a lesser model than either the 828 or the 929. Also the pro calibration you want to get will probably be a pro form of Audyssey already built into the receiver. So do you really want a receiver without Audyssey built in?

I ran 8 mic positions for Audyssey MultiEQ XT32 for my 9.1 setup on my 929 and I'm thrilled with the results. Easily better than my Integra pre-pro's MultiEQ XT, especially in the bass.

I'm trying to figure out why a pro wouldn't use XT32 if it was there.
post #57 of 290
Thread Starter 
Gadget, if you don't need Audyssey, then the 828 is a great bargain. If you decide that you would later like Audyssey, the 929 and 818 are better options as they have XT32; the 828 only has MultEQ XT.
post #58 of 290

Hello All,

 

Purchased the TX-929 after many, many months of trying to decide which receiver to purchase. Been setting things up for a couple days but have two issues I'm wondering if I can get some help.

 

First, I set my cable box, (Comcast,DVR) to the HDMI input of the receiver CBL/SAT.  For some reason, the on screen display no longer works. I'm pretty sure it worked the first time I plugged it in. It OSD works with all other inputs. Any ideas what I may have done to disable this?

 

Second,  When using the Bluetooth with my Iphone, the music continuously skips and cuts out, making this option totally unusable.  Has anyone else had this issue or is there a fix for this?

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance

MM

post #59 of 290
Merry Christmas All,


I Just picked up a TX-NR929 a couple days ago. wink.gif I did a fair amount of A/B testing at my local Hi-Fi shop. I had it narrowed down to: Yamaha RX-A2030, Onkyo, and Denon AVR-X400. Thankfully I was able to demo on close matching speakers as well.
To tell the truth, I couldn't hear much difference in the store, so my main focus was all the bells and whistles....

For the past 4 years I have had a Yamaha RX-V3900. great sound unit! I was just needing some more features: More HDMI, ARC....A few other things. I had boughten a Onkyo....8 something (can't remember model) just cause I was interested in some of the features the Yamaha didn't have, and I could get a better deal on the Onkyo. From the moment I got it setup I could just tell this wasn't the receiver for me. First off, it sounded really thin with my Klipsch RF-7 system. I even tried running Audyssey multiple times & completely bypassing it.
I still couldn't achieve the sound I was looking for, so I returned it and picked up the Yamaha and was Happy!

I was definitely drawn to the Onkyo once again with it's stunning good looks and features, so I decided to test run again.......Well, got it home a couple nights ago ran Audyssey in a few locations and was so surprised with the quality of sound I was getting!!! Really! my Jaw dropped
demoing some of my favorite Lossless Blu Rays and Flac files. I don't know if this as something to do with Audyssey MultEQ XT? But Wow!!! The soundstage is absolutely remarkable! The sound is crisp while still remaining "Warm"

I also havent had any other issues that I had with the previous Onlyo (knock on wood) HDMI Sync issues, Heating, a few other issues as well. I did take me a while to figure out the remote macros and HDMI CSC (RIHD) But, I think I've got all of that straightened out.
All the network services seem to work well. It would have bee nice to have Airplay but, I use Apple TV anyways so, not a deal breaker. Bluetooth also works flawlessly, although it would have been nice to have a Bluetooth button on the remote
instead of going into Q setup and changing the input but, again, not a big deal breaker for me. So far the Onkyo has passed all the video & audio test I've throw at it....with the exception of playing FLAC 5.1 Files via USB. I have a large collection of multichannel files
I have always play from Foobar via a PC & HDMI. I was hoping the onkyo could read these frown.gif It can play the full uncompressed data but, outputs only to 2 channel. I'm hoping it's not a hardware limitation. Maybe Onkyo can do a firmware update........

All in all I'm really glad I went with the Onkyo! Awesome features for the money!! I'll keep you all in the loop wink.gif

-Ryan
Edited by ryaneagon - 12/23/13 at 9:57am
post #60 of 290
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Originally Posted by MrMax View Post

Hello All,

Purchased the TX-929 after many, many months of trying to decide which receiver to purchase. Been setting things up for a couple days but have two issues I'm wondering if I can get some help.

First, I set my cable box, (Comcast,DVR) to the HDMI input of the receiver CBL/SAT.  For some reason, the on screen display no longer works. I'm pretty sure it worked the first time I plugged it in. It OSD works with all other inputs. Any ideas what I may have done to disable this?

Second,  When using the Bluetooth with my Iphone, the music continuously skips and cuts out, making this option totally unusable.  Has anyone else had this issue or is there a fix for this?

Thanks in advance for any assistance
MM


Congrats!

Make sure you are not on Video Bypass mode on the input you want to watch. I noticed this too. For some reason with this enabled you don't get a on screen display. I have mine set to custom with everything set to off, and resolution to through. Or you can set it to upscale if needed too!



I haven't had a issue with bluetooth cutting out using a iPhone 5. I haven't used it much, but it's been flawless when I do. Maybe try a different device if possible.


Hope this helps.
Merry Christmas!

-Ryan
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