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post #31 of 52
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Originally Posted by eric3316 
I can't believe people would actually fall for this and it is almost unbelievable to be reading a thread that we actually need to warn people from sending someone a gift card to purchase a TV at a crazy discounted price.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Things that seem too good to be true usually are.
post #32 of 52

ripped off

Some of you guys have submitted some very helpful info.  But, as far as being stupid for trusting this site, anyone can fall in that hole..... even you.  I bought what I thought was camera for 500 dollars so, I am out 500 dollars but, instead of shaking my finger at others I would rather spend my time trying to get this web site shut down.  People need to be made aware and those who are involved of furthering their success at ripping people off (like go daddy) need to not create such professional looking sites for criminals..... period! Do not do business with revelrie.com. They are a rippoff!


Edited by milliefjj - 12/18/13 at 11:48am
post #33 of 52

First off, I never said I was angry. So I can only assume you have a degree in Psychology to make this summation. If you are experienced in the field of Psychology, there are some other feelings I would like you to analyze. For instance, I am disappointed and once again surprised at our system. It is too easy for criminals to commit crimes on the internet. As far as blame is concerned, this is not a matter of blame, but instead a matter of accountability. If you are a large company and you are made aware that fraud is occurring with one of your products, you should respond to it in a timely fashion to protect your customers. Instead, I have experienced the opposite. However, I will remain calm and logical until my voice is heard and a sensible resolution is made. 

post #34 of 52
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Originally Posted by cray350z View Post

First off, I never said I was angry. So I can only assume you have a degree in Psychology to make this summation. If you are experienced in the field of Psychology, there are some other feelings I would like you to analyze. For instance, I am disappointed and once again surprised at our system. It is too easy for criminals to commit crimes on the internet. As far as blame is concerned, this is not a matter of blame, but instead a matter of accountability. If you are a large company and you are made aware that fraud is occurring with one of your products, you should respond to it in a timely fashion to protect your customers. Instead, I have experienced the opposite. However, I will remain calm and logical until my voice is heard and a sensible resolution is made. 
You are blaming Amazon because they can't do anything about a gift card which is essentially like cash. This is not a credit card nor do they offer any type of protection when using it.

If you mailed those guys cash instead of a gift card would you go and blame the bank for not protecting you? This is the reason why you shop online with credit cards because they do offer protection. Although I would never have thought people needed to be told not to shop with gift cards that don't even belong to the store you are buying from.

To say you won't shop at Amazon because of this is, is kind of ironic because if you would have shopped at Amazon from the start and you wouldn't be in this situation.
Edited by eric3316 - 12/17/13 at 3:25pm
post #35 of 52
I just checked out the site for the heck of it. It says credit card payments accepted? Is that not the case when you go to finalize your order?
Edited by eric3316 - 12/17/13 at 3:33pm
post #36 of 52
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Originally Posted by cray350z View Post

First off, I never said I was angry. So I can only assume you have a degree in Psychology to make this summation. If you are experienced in the field of Psychology, there are some other feelings I would like you to analyze. For instance, I am disappointed and once again surprised at our system. It is too easy for criminals to commit crimes on the internet. As far as blame is concerned, this is not a matter of blame, but instead a matter of accountability. If you are a large company and you are made aware that fraud is occurring with one of your products, you should respond to it in a timely fashion to protect your customers. Instead, I have experienced the opposite. However, I will remain calm and logical until my voice is heard and a sensible resolution is made. 

Whoa, really, are you serious? It is difficult for criminals to commit crimes on the internet UNLESS you help them to commit the crime. This is what you did. You and only you are culpable. The ONLY person accountable here is you AND the criminal. You leveraged your own greed and got caught. Amazon is faultless here. How on earth are they supposed to determine how a gift card is used? Are they now culpable for vetting the use of every gift card? That kind of destroys the purpose. You gave them the gift card willingly. I honestly cannot believe in this day and age that people actually fall victim to this kind of scam. I've used Western Union with some outfits in China with stunning results, but they have reviews and history. The only "sensible resolution" to this is that you learn your lesson and don't make the same mistake twice.
post #37 of 52

I don't believe that Amazon is in need of a cheerleader, but thanks for the chuckle. Lets not forget that I am not the criminal here, nor were my actions greed related. Greed and bargain shopping. There is a big difference. I won't bore you with their definitions. Your use of greed is an emotionally exaggerated description of my true attempt to shop for the best deal. That is one of the reasons we choose to shop online. I'm sorry I can't be the passive victim who takes all the blame and accepts fraud as an "individual" mistake. This matter is more complex than a simple life lesson. One that you could only understand if you had experienced it. Yes I am guilty of making a mistake. Are you Dr. Spock and incapable of making one? All human beings make mistakes and as long as Amazon turns their back and does absolutely nothing to address this, Revelrie will continue to rip people off and Amazon will continue to sell more giftcards. I am asking for fail-safes to be put into place. I am asking for action not inaction. I am asking for decision makers to think creatively. I am not asking anyone to stop shopping at Amazon. It is my favorite online store, but I disagree with the manner in which it is handling this problem.  In this particular case of fraud, the Amazon gift card is the primary key to success. The customer carrying the key is an accomplice. In today's judicial system they are both guilty. Agree or disagree. No one is faultless in this case.

post #38 of 52
Yikes. We better lock up everyone at the federal reserve too, what with all that cash that gets used to buy illegal drugs and weapons. You can't seriously expect Amazon to be responsible for what you did with a product you purchased from them? Amazon made good on their part when they sold you the product you requested. What you do with that product after purchase is solely on your hands. If I bought a TV from Amazon and decided to use it as a skateboard ramp, I shouldn't expect Amazon to replace that TV when it breaks.
post #39 of 52
Those are not good reasons to lock up the FED, but bailing out cronies (both foreign and domestic) would be a good one. wink.gif An audit should be conducted, but some hypocritical friends in high places won't even let it come to a vote. *cough cough* *waits for this post to disappear*
post #40 of 52
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Originally Posted by cray350z View Post

I don't believe that Amazon is in need of a cheerleader, but thanks for the chuckle. Lets not forget that I am not the criminal here, nor were my actions greed related. Greed and bargain shopping. There is a big difference. I won't bore you with their definitions. Your use of greed is an emotionally exaggerated description of my true attempt to shop for the best deal. That is one of the reasons we choose to shop online. I'm sorry I can't be the passive victim who takes all the blame and accepts fraud as an "individual" mistake. This matter is more complex than a simple life lesson. One that you could only understand if you had experienced it. Yes I am guilty of making a mistake. Are you Dr. Spock and incapable of making one? All human beings make mistakes and as long as Amazon turns their back and does absolutely nothing to address this, Revelrie will continue to rip people off and Amazon will continue to sell more giftcards. I am asking for fail-safes to be put into place. I am asking for action not inaction. I am asking for decision makers to think creatively. I am not asking anyone to stop shopping at Amazon. It is my favorite online store, but I disagree with the manner in which it is handling this problem.  In this particular case of fraud, the Amazon gift card is the primary key to success. The customer carrying the key is an accomplice. In today's judicial system they are both guilty. Agree or disagree. No one is faultless in this case.

No really, this is entirely your fault. You ignored common sense in your search for a 'bargain', this is easily defined as greed. You deliberately chose a method of payment that had NO fail-safes. You agreed to it. You accepted it. You were party to it. You deliberately chose to NOT use methods of payment that gave you security. It's not happenstance that these outfits choose gift cards as a method of payment. I'm not saying you shouldn't complain to the FTC or Amazon. I'm saying that doing so is a waste of time and will absolutely not accomplish anything other than assuaging your frustration. I could care less about Amazon. But I'm curious, you expect them to DO something about it. What exactly are you expecting them to do? No, not generally. Exactly. They are a company and have to work within the confines of domestic and international law. What exactly is your expectation and how should they implement it? Say this is your opportunity to make sure this never, ever, happens again. I'm from Seattle. I might even work for Amazon and know managers in their security divisions. If that was the case, what would you have me tell them? Let's not make this a speculative thing.
post #41 of 52

Do not buy from this company( revelrie.com).  They take your money and never send you anything back.  There is no way to contact them.  They have a customer service email but, they never respond.  DONT DO IT!  You are better off with someone you know and feel comfortable doing business online with.  Good luck!

post #42 of 52
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

I just checked out the site for the heck of it. It says credit card payments accepted? Is that not the case when you go to finalize your order?
That's part of the bait and switch methinks.
post #43 of 52

Did you pay with an Amazon gift card or was it a Home Depot, Target, Walmart, or Tigerdirect gift card? 

post #44 of 52

Read my first post and you can read the suggestions I have made. My bank sends me warnings by email whenever a potential fraud exists with one of their products. This is done to protect the financial interests of their customers. Amazon should maintain the same high standards. Why do you feel so strongly about exonerating them? Let me try to convince you otherwise. The finger pointing is over. In an attempt to open your eyes to how big this problem is I am taking this to the next level. The FTC is very busy with complaints. Sometimes it takes the efforts of one person to make a difference. So your either part of the problem or part of the solution. I have my opinion. You have your opinion and I choose to ignore it. 

post #45 of 52
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Originally Posted by cray350z View Post

Read my first post and you can read the suggestions I have made. My bank sends me warnings by email whenever a potential fraud exists with one of their products. This is done to protect the financial interests of their customers. Amazon should maintain the same high standards. Why do you feel so strongly about exonerating them? Let me try to convince you otherwise. The finger pointing is over. In an attempt to open your eyes to how big this problem is I am taking this to the next level. The FTC is very busy with complaints. Sometimes it takes the efforts of one person to make a difference. So your either part of the problem or part of the solution. I have my opinion. You have your opinion and I choose to ignore it. 
I think you are missing the point here. Amazon is not a bank and they should not be responsible with what you do with a gift card. Do you even comprehend what you did? Did you even think for a second this was a legitimate way to do business? What if they linked to a gold Necklace and say buy us this and we will ship you a TV. Should the jewlery store then be responsible as well? Should they use their money and resources to invistigate something they have absolutley no liable for at all or should they just take your word for it that you got screwed just because you said so.

The only thing Amazon should be responsible for is if they were to have a class on how to shop online, they should waive the signup fee for you.
post #46 of 52

I appreciate your sense a humor. There is no better way to start my morning than with a good laugh. Listen, I have really enjoyed reading your posts, but I'm moving on to greener pastures. Unless you have supernatural powers that you can use to rewire my brain, I will not be persuaded. You get an "E" for effort. BTW, those classes are a great idea. You have my support if you need it. 

post #47 of 52
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Originally Posted by cray350z View Post

I appreciate your sense a humor. There is no better way to start my morning than with a good laugh. Listen, I have really enjoyed reading your posts, but I'm moving on to greener pastures. Unless you have supernatural powers that you can use to rewire my brain, I will not be persuaded. You get an "E" for effort. BTW, those classes are a great idea. You have my support if you need it. 
Lol, at least we ended on a good note.

Anyway, I do wish you luck in your journey and if anything should come from it, please follow up here.
post #48 of 52

It has been a pleasure doing battle with you. I sure will keep you posted on the forum. I'm going to collect some data and stats and go from there. I don't have anything to lose. If you could find it in your heart to agree with me it sure would make up for the money I lost. LOL

post #49 of 52

PLEASE DO NOT USE REVELRIE.COM.  THEY ARE SCAMS.  THEY WILL TAKE YOUR MONEY, PROMISE YOU A SHIPPING DATE AND YOU WILL HEAR NOTHING ELSE FROM THEM.  THEY DON'T HAVE VALID CONTACT INFORMATION TO COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE AN EMAIL ADDRESS THAT THEY DON'T RESPONSE .

post #50 of 52

Yes many of us have fallen for the same scam. How did you pay for the item you purchased? Would you mind sharing the dollar amount. You can average the dollar amount. I'm collecting stats to share with the media. You may send to my email....cray350z@yahoo.com. Include your purchase date. Anyone else interested in participating, please do not hesitate. This is our only chance of having our fraud investigation accelerated. 

post #51 of 52

DO NOT BUY THE TV! MY MOM GOT RIPPED OFF!!!!

post #52 of 52
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Originally Posted by Terilynf View Post

DO NOT BUY THE TV! MY MOM GOT RIPPED OFF!!!!

Wow, so there's no doubt that the site is a scam. There NEVER was a doubt the site was a scam. Most people with both hemispheres tied behind their back can still see they're a scam. But these random new users with zero posts to their credit make these extra posts... shady.
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