Originally Posted by commsysman
Find me another AVR that actually GIVES a power rating for all channels with all 7 driven. There aren't any. If they are really good units, why do they DUCK this very basic issue and refuse to give meaningful power ratings for 5 or 7 channels? Do you have an answer for that?
Most of them don't put out anywhere near as much, because their crappy power supplies are less than half the size of the Cambridge.
An honest 60 watts per channel to all 7 channels with low distortion is far more than most 7-channel AVRs can supply.
The amplifiers can't deliver what the power supply can't supply!
Home Theater magazine RAVES about how good the Cambridge receivers sound every time they test them. They never say anything as positive about any other brand. Read the reviews.
Your 4311 is a very good unit; one of the few that competes at all with Cambridge, but it still doesn't SOUND as good IMO (and it is not cheaper). Denon is certainly better than Yamaha and Pioneer etc., with their cheap Class D amplifiers and puny power supplies. Actually, if you look at the specs, Cambridge receivers do have an impressive list of capabilities and features.
And by the way; Cambridge is of the opinion that all of the digital signal processing that goes on in most room correction software seriously degrades the sound QUALITY, and most knowledgeable reviewers and engineers agree.
That is why Cambridge refuses to play the "bells and whistles" game and sticks to sound engineering practices. If you prefer the longest list of "features" to the best sound quality, stick with the Japanese manufacturers and they will stick it to you.
Cambridge has their own proprietary room/speaker setup system (CAMCAS) with a calibrated microphone included. They consider it superior to other systems. You are completely wrong when you allege that they do not have one.
Your bias towards CA products is coming through loud and clear
. There is quite a few CA "opinions" in you above post. I guess if you buy into the CA hype then that's cool
. I'm not sure what the average mid-level AVR all channel power ratings are. But I would think many could possibly hit 60 wpc all channels driven. If I was going to setup a system with no concern about features I'd go the UMC-200/UPA-700 route. That option would cost less than the CA 551R and give one more power.
I wonder what CA would think of all "seriously degrades the sound QUALITY"
going on in top AVRs (X4000, 4311/4520) and prepros (Marantz 8801/Onkyo 5509)
. That's total BS if you ask me and many others will I'm sure agree. Does CAMCAS EQ ones speakers and subs as Audyssey does? Keep buying into the CA "hype" and you'll be fine