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post #1231 of 1273
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Originally Posted by stef2 View Post

I know my lumens estimation is far from exact. From what I know, my Seymour AV center stage XD is rated 1.1 but in real life it is has been measured as a 1.0 gain screen, so that's what I use for my estimate...

I was unaware the EyeOne didn't report correct fL...should I worry about my calibration being out of specs? how can I correctly calibrate my gray scale and gamma curve if the fL readings are wrong...? I mean, I know the eyeOne is not a high end device and I dont mind minor and repeatable error (5% or so) but is it much worse than that?

For calibrations, the eye one is good. For lumens, you would just need a light meter. I can get around 16ftL and my eye one or display 3 would read about 10ftL off the screen.
post #1232 of 1273
I am looking for a replacement for my old JVC HD950 and was wondering how this projector compares. I know the comparison based on numbers just looking for an overall impression between the 2.

Thanks
post #1233 of 1273
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Originally Posted by drjay71 View Post

I am looking for a replacement for my old JVC HD950 and was wondering how this projector compares. I know the comparison based on numbers just looking for an overall impression between the 2.

Thanks
I went from an RS-35 (HD990) to an RS-67 and the difference is substantial. Much improved motion handling, brighter, ("punchier") picture, improved contrast, and 3D capable. I also like e-shift. All in all, a major upgrade. I would think that going from a HD950 to a X500 would also be a major upgrade (the DI should more than make up for the static contrast difference).
post #1234 of 1273
I went from an RS-35 (HD990) to an RS-57 (X700). Definite upgrade, and worth it. I'm sure the RS49 (X500) is very much worth it.
post #1235 of 1273
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Originally Posted by drjay71 View Post

I am looking for a replacement for my old JVC HD950 and was wondering how this projector compares. I know the comparison based on numbers just looking for an overall impression between the 2.

Thanks

Are you going to upgrade? Its looking like a significant upgrade over your current projector.
post #1236 of 1273
Thread Starter 
Have to say it, this years models of JVC are top notch.

Best JVC has ever released.

DI is amazing for their first try too!!!

Only noticable issue I have is if a scene goes from very very dark to bright, you will lose highlight information until the iris catches up.



Never have seen blacks so black on my setup before.

Wish they could work out some Knicks (HDMI handshake, lockups, none working sliders for MPC, banding with CMD on) but over all great projectors.
post #1237 of 1273
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

Are you going to upgrade? Its looking like a significant upgrade over your current projector.

No I ended up selling my house and my home theater equipment but I really loved the JVC projector I had and am looking for something comparable. Leaning towards the entry level 4K projector. Any other suggestions are much welcome!

If the x35 is a decent upgrade over the HD 950 I would consider that as the price is attractive and I could wait for true 4K down the road.
post #1238 of 1273
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

Have to say it, this years models of JVC are top notch.

Best JVC has ever released.

DI is amazing for their first try too!!!

Only noticable issue I have is if a scene goes from very very dark to bright, you will lose highlight information until the iris catches up.



Never have seen blacks so black on my setup before.

Wish they could work out some Knicks (HDMI handshake, lockups, none working sliders for MPC, banding with CMD on) but over all great projectors.

I take it from your last sentence that you did notice the banding with CMD SOWK?
post #1239 of 1273
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I had not looked yet, but I normally don't use it anyway.

I hear you actually lose motion resolution with eshift and CMS low are both on at the same time, but it does not happen with CMD on high.

So a lot of little issues, none of them affect me directly, but something JVC should still fix.
post #1240 of 1273
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

Have to say it, this years models of JVC are top notch.

Best JVC has ever released.

DI is amazing for their first try too!!!

Only noticable issue I have is if a scene goes from very very dark to bright, you will lose highlight information until the iris catches up.



Never have seen blacks so black on my setup before.

Wish they could work out some Knicks (HDMI handshake, lockups, none working sliders for MPC, banding with CMD on) but over all great projectors.

Same exact thing I said about the black levels. With the DI, its worth every penny. Its really a 300,000+ CR projector because of the DI does such a great job. I think its money well spent. Until we have 4K content, I think these projectors will provide excellent quality with all 1080p sources.
post #1241 of 1273
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Originally Posted by drjay71 View Post

No I ended up selling my house and my home theater equipment but I really loved the JVC projector I had and am looking for something comparable. Leaning towards the entry level 4K projector. Any other suggestions are much welcome!

If the x35 is a decent upgrade over the HD 950 I would consider that as the price is attractive and I could wait for true 4K down the road.

I bet the x35 is a good price right now, but the performance of the new JVCs with the DI is worth a look at. We wouldn't have much 4K content for at least two more years or longer, so a 1080p projector should provide great value over a 4K projector. I would try to get a X500/49/4910 if you could but if the price is right, the x35 is also a great projector.
post #1242 of 1273
I decided to buy an X500. I've been hearing so many good things about this years models I just had to check it out. I have my X90 up for sale on ebay currently, I just hope I get the X500 before I have to ship it out. I want to be able to spend at least one evening with the two side by side so I can get a decent look at the performance difference.eek.gif
post #1243 of 1273
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

I decided to buy an X500. I've been hearing so many good things about this years models I just had to check it out. I have my X90 up for sale on ebay currently, I just hope I get the X500 before I have to ship it out. I want to be able to spend at least one evening with the two side by side so I can get a decent look at the performance difference.eek.gif


I look forward to hearing what you think.
post #1244 of 1273
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

I decided to buy an X500. I've been hearing so many good things about this years models I just had to check it out. I have my X90 up for sale on ebay currently, I just hope I get the X500 before I have to ship it out. I want to be able to spend at least one evening with the two side by side so I can get a decent look at the performance difference.eek.gif

I figured you would get one. Hopefully you have the X90 alongside the X500 to compare
post #1245 of 1273
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

I bet the x35 is a good price right now, but the performance of the new JVCs with the DI is worth a look at. We wouldn't have much 4K content for at least two more years or longer, so a 1080p projector should provide great value over a 4K projector. I would try to get a X500/49/4910 if you could but if the price is right, the x35 is also a great projector.

Thanks. I would love to get the X500R just haven't seen one in person yet. If anyone knows where I could see one in the Dallas area please let me know.
post #1246 of 1273
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

I decided to buy an X500. I've been hearing so many good things about this years models I just had to check it out. I have my X90 up for sale on ebay currently, I just hope I get the X500 before I have to ship it out. I want to be able to spend at least one evening with the two side by side so I can get a decent look at the performance difference.eek.gif

Do you feel safe selling something that substantial on ebay?
post #1247 of 1273
Wouldn't it be the buyer who feels unsafe in an ebay transaction?
post #1248 of 1273
Just watched The Ten Commandments. First disc on the 49 and second disc on the DPI LED. Preferred the DPI. There is still something about a DLP that looks different
post #1249 of 1273
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

Just watched The Ten Commandments. First disc on the 49 and second disc on the DPI LED. Preferred the DPI. There is still something about a DLP that looks different

The DPI throws a nice image. We have an open box that would make a nice projector for someone.
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post #1250 of 1273
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

Just watched The Ten Commandments. First disc on the 49 and second disc on the DPI LED. Preferred the DPI. There is still something about a DLP that looks different

What DPI projector, and how do the blacks compare to the JVC?
post #1251 of 1273
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

The DPI throws a nice image. We have an open box that would make a nice projector for someone.

I am so surprised that no one bought it yet. I guess people are waiting for a 4K LED/Laser projector. They are going to be waiting for awhile. The DPI is definitely a great buy
post #1252 of 1273
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

What DPI projector, and how do the blacks compare to the JVC?

It will not have the blacks of the JVC, but it throws a very nice image, typical of good DLP's.
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post #1253 of 1273
It will be as close to as good as it gets with DLP for under $20000. The only projector that might dig a tad deeper is the Runco LS-5 at least that was what I saw when comparing the LED based NuVision ProVu P2 in it's fine tuned DI mode side by side. I expect the DPI to perform similarly because they're the same projector "under the hood". Subjectively on its own, you won't think it lacks contrast. It's only when you place it side by side with a JVC you realize how much better the JVC is, but that can be said with every other digital projector out there too.
post #1254 of 1273
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Originally Posted by RapalloAV View Post

What DPI projector, and how do the blacks compare to the JVC?

I have the DPI M-Vision Cine LED 600. The blacks are not as good. It just has a different look than the JVC and I'm glad I have both. When 4K becomes more affordable, I would definitely have a LCOS and a DLP. That's if I can afford it of course, I'm hoping in 3-4 years, prices will come down significantly
post #1255 of 1273
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

I am so surprised that no one bought it yet. I guess people are waiting for a 4K LED/Laser projector. They are going to be waiting for awhile. The DPI is definitely a great buy

I saw that DPI that Mike has for sale and the clarity of image was awesome and I too am very surprised it hasn't sold yet. I could definitely see you preferring some movies on the DPI and others on the JVC. I really like my X700 but I could also see me liking the DPI. You are lucky to have both.

Mike
post #1256 of 1273
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Originally Posted by SOWK View Post

Have to say it, this years models of JVC are top notch.

Best JVC has ever released.

DI is amazing for their first try too!!!

Wow, that's awesome coming from you because you are one of the PICKIEST. I'm convinced to get me one of the newer models eventually.
post #1257 of 1273
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Did you or Seegs ever compare one to the Runco LS-5, how does it compare?

What you need to remember is that the Runco LS-5 (LS-3, LS-1), Planar PD8150 (PD8130), DPI Cine LED (600 and 1000), Vivitek H9080FD, NuVision ProVu P2, and Runco Q750i are all built on the same Delta design. This means that they all use the same lens (and optional lenses), same Gennum processing, same I/O, and same light path. The only thing that differs is how the projector gets it's light, DI implementation, and possibly DLP DMD choice (DC3 vs DC4). All in all, these units look almost indistinguishable from one another. I will note that the DI implementation in the PD8150/LS-5 was noticeably better than on the Vivitek and NuVision. But the latter two weren't slouches and were some of the better ones that I've seen. I can't comment on how the DI works on the DPI or Runco Q750i as I haven't seen them.
post #1258 of 1273
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Originally Posted by coderguy View Post

Wow, that's awesome coming from you because you are one of the PICKIEST. I'm convinced to get me one of the newer models eventually.

I think you should go for the X500/49/4910. Excellent value. Plus, coming from a JVC, you would appreciate the new DI to add significant contrast over previous models. I watched Oblivion, again:eek: , and I was just amazed at how good that movie looks. JVC did a really good job with the 49. They probably should have only put the DI in the 57 and 67. Oh well, thats better for people who are looking to spend $4000 or less on a projector and get mind blowing quality.
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

What you need to remember is that the Runco LS-5 (LS-3, LS-1), Planar PD8150 (PD8130), DPI Cine LED (600 and 1000), Vivitek H9080FD, NuVision ProVu P2, and Runco Q750i are all built on the same Delta design. This means that they all use the same lens (and optional lenses), same Gennum processing, same I/O, and same light path. The only thing that differs is how the projector gets it's light, DI implementation, and possibly DLP DMD choice (DC3 vs DC4). All in all, these units look almost indistinguishable from one another. I will note that the DI implementation in the PD8150/LS-5 was noticeably better than on the Vivitek and NuVision. But the latter two weren't slouches and were some of the better ones that I've seen. I can't comment on how the DI works on the DPI or Runco Q750i as I haven't seen them.

Thanks for the info, I deleted my post cause I figured you'd already sort of answered it earlier and didn't want to be repetitive. Thanks for listing the models, I knew a bunch were the same but I couldn't remember which ones beyond the Planar and Runco.

I'm fairly picky on IRIS action, but not too bad, as long as the IRIS doesn't look like the hc7900 (oh man that IRIS was the worst one I've seen yet).

@BLee
I'm going to go on the waiting list for a B-stock I think. I'm still pretty happy with the RS-45 and w7000 combo for now, but eventually I'll upgrade.
post #1260 of 1273
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Originally Posted by Seegs108 View Post

What you need to remember is that the Runco LS-5 (LS-3, LS-1), Planar PD8150 (PD8130), DPI Cine LED (600 and 1000), Vivitek H9080FD, NuVision ProVu P2, and Runco Q750i are all built on the same Delta design. This means that they all use the same lens (and optional lenses), same Gennum processing, same I/O, and same light path. The only thing that differs is how the projector gets it's light, DI implementation, and possibly DLP DMD choice (DC3 vs DC4). All in all, these units look almost indistinguishable from one another. I will note that the DI implementation in the PD8150/LS-5 was noticeably better than on the Vivitek and NuVision. But the latter two weren't slouches and were some of the better ones that I've seen. I can't comment on how the DI works on the DPI or Runco Q750i as I haven't seen them.

I let a member borrow my 600 for a week to compare to his 1000. He said they were basically the same projector, but I got a better sample. My 600 was sharper and the DI was a lot better. His of course was brighter, but he didn't have a problem on his 11ft wide HP screen. He really like the DI, maybe they took a short cut to get the price down or maybe he just needs to send his in to get something done with his. But he could not see it working on content, and I never seen it working a content. The first thing I notice about the DPI was how sharp it was, I guess my sample is a really good one. When he returned my DPI, I let him look at some scenes on the 49, he really liked the contrast and could not believe the quality you can get for the price. He has owned many high end projectors, even the 1000ES, and he really liked how the 49 looked.
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