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post #571 of 1213
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Originally Posted by farsider3000 View Post

Mike,

As we approach the maximum vertical lens shift does the image become less sharp? I have never seen any testing on this aspect of projectors. That is one of the big problems that I am having since I am about to purchase my first projector. Maybe the JVC looks great when it is using zero lens shift but maybe even with a minimal amount of lens shift it starts to look like a $999 projector? I doubt this is the case but it is difficult to understand how one projector would perform vs another in our specific room. Are you aware of any testing or resources that discuss this?

In theory the less lens shift you use the sharper the image. Same goes for using long throw vs short throw. This is because the center of the lens is usually considered the best spot to shoot the image through. This is because the center of the lens may be the best polished and have the fewest imperfections. Now if a lens is just as polished up to the edges as it is in the center, you may not be able to tell the difference in a side by side test. You certainly are not going to see the difference between the two if you do not have them two side by side. Also with extreme lens shift you may get more CA.

You place a JVC and a $999 projector in a good room and shoot onto a decent screen and you will not have any problem picking out the JVC no matter how much lens shift you use. Still not a fair fight. The JVC will blow the other projector away with most material.
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post #572 of 1213
I am lucky enough to be able to vertical center shelf mount. I used no lens shift and was able to adjust with the legs of the PJ. But it is nice to know the lens shift has little effect on sharpness.
post #573 of 1213
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Originally Posted by cardoski View Post

just played BF4 with my PC and it was pretty decent. lag was not really noticeable. Pretty surprising, COD might be a different matter as it is more twitchy. I had the e-shift on, will try it later with it off. The CMD is super good on the PJ. I normally game on a 39in Seiki 4K set at 1920X1080 @120hz, which is better but i like driving the tanks and Jets on the big screen Will report more when I have done more gaming.

What settings did you use to reduce lag? I'm guessing CMD is off. any specific color profile, and other settings?
post #574 of 1213
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What settings did you use to reduce lag? I'm guessing CMD is off. any specific color profile, and other settings?

I had CMD on Hi and my video setting were on Natural. I had to adjust the mouse speed in the game settings to get a more natural feel when aiming. But I was mostly cruising around in a tank and a helicopter briefly. I could not imagine playing COD or a game that required really fast movement.
post #575 of 1213
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

In theory the less lens shift you use the sharper the image. Same goes for using long throw vs short throw. This is because the center of the lens is usually considered the best spot to shoot the image through. This is because the center of the lens may be the best polished and have the fewest imperfections. Now if a lens is just as polished up to the edges as it is in the center, you may not be able to tell the difference in a side by side test. You certainly are not going to see the difference between the two if you do not have them two side by side. Also with extreme lens shift you may get more CA.

You place a JVC and a $999 projector in a good room and shoot onto a decent screen and you will not have any problem picking out the JVC no matter how much lens shift you use. Still not a fair fight. The JVC will blow the other projector away with most material.

Mike,

Thanks for your insights. I am still trying to determine where I am going to mount my projector. I really do not want a massive projector hanging down into my theater room that is currently cleanly laid out. Entry to the room is from the left rear on my "upper level/riser" so everyone would get a view of the back of the projector with the power cable, hdmi and network cable. I do have the option of having some carpentry work done on my back wall cabinet to accommodate a projector or two.

If I mount on the back cabinet area, the lens of the JVC 4910 would be exactly 22.5ft from the screen and a foot below the top of the screen. I am wondering how happy I would be with the image? My room is fully light controlled with medium blue walls. If I purchase a 120" 2.39:1 screen like the Stewart 130G3 is this going to give me an extremely dim image projecting from this distance? My plan would be to run a separate DLP for 3D so this would be strictly 2D.
Edited by farsider3000 - 1/28/14 at 8:45pm
post #576 of 1213
I started a separate thread to focus on initial setup information, directed mainly at "newbies" to JVC projectors and projectors in general (like myself). I would appreciate any information you can add there (like zombie's recommendation to use auto2 as dynamic iris, for example).

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1514184/jvc-newbies-tips-tricks-and-recommendations-thread

Some questions for example:

- What's the recommended out-of-the-box color profile (without calibration)? Sometimes Natural seems better than Cinema, sometimes not.
- Good beginners non-professional calibration tips (is auto calibration with Spyder4elite any good?)
- Recommendations for screen size and type based on throw distance.
- Recommended viewing settings for 3D viewing, alternative 3D glasses, good screen for 3D etc.
- Recommended default settings for things like Clear black, Gamma, Clear motion drive, contrast, brightness, tint etc (some newbie explanation of the JVC specific settings would be appriciated)
- Anything else you can come up with that would be beneficial for us.
Edited by odedia - 1/29/14 at 6:12am
post #577 of 1213
Hello. I've had my firmware updated RS4910 installed since this past Saturday. Sunday morning I fired it up and it would not turn on, using the remote or the power button on the back of the projector. The red standby light was on. The only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it and wait for 30 seconds, then plug it back in. I chalked that first time up to... I don't know... wishful thinking that it wouldn't happen again. Unfortunately, it happened again last night when I fired it up for the first time in about 20 hours. Same thing, only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
post #578 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Hello. I've had my firmware updated RS4910 installed since this past Saturday. Sunday morning I fired it up and it would not turn on, using the remote or the power button on the back of the projector. The red standby light was on. The only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it and wait for 30 seconds, then plug it back in. I chalked that first time up to... I don't know... wishful thinking that it wouldn't happen again. Unfortunately, it happened again last night when I fired it up for the first time in about 20 hours. Same thing, only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it. Anyone else experiencing this issue?

Are you sending 1080P to the projector or 4K?
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post #579 of 1213
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Are you sending 1080P to the projector or 4K?

Hello Mike. I'm sending 1080p from my Oppo 103D. I have the Oppo to always send 1080p, I don't use the Auto setting. The projector is set to use the Auto input and Auto color space settings.
post #580 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Hello. I've had my firmware updated RS4910 installed since this past Saturday. Sunday morning I fired it up and it would not turn on, using the remote or the power button on the back of the projector. The red standby light was on. The only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it and wait for 30 seconds, then plug it back in. I chalked that first time up to... I don't know... wishful thinking that it wouldn't happen again. Unfortunately, it happened again last night when I fired it up for the first time in about 20 hours. Same thing, only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it. Anyone else experiencing this issue?

Greetings,

Did it ever power on normally using the remote or panel power button?


Regards,
post #581 of 1213
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

Did it ever power on normally using the remote or panel power button?


Regards,

Yes, many times it would power on correctly. After the first incident, I came down the next morning (Monday) just to see if it worked and it did.
post #582 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Yes, many times it would power on correctly. After the first incident, I came down the next morning (Monday) just to see if it worked and it did.

Greetings,

That is peculiar. Perhaps try doing a factory reset and see if that corrects the problem.


Regards,
post #583 of 1213
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Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

That is peculiar. Perhaps try doing a factory reset and see if that corrects the problem.


Regards,

Can't hurt I suppose... just have to write down my settings. I wouldn't think a factory reset would undo my firmware update right?
post #584 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Can't hurt I suppose... just have to write down my settings. I wouldn't think a factory reset would undo my firmware update right?

Greetings,

Correct. The firmware update will be unaffected by doing a factory reset.


Regards,
post #585 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Hello Mike. I'm sending 1080p from my Oppo 103D. I have the Oppo to always send 1080p, I don't use the Auto setting. The projector is set to use the Auto input and Auto color space settings.

What is your signal chain like from Oppo to projector?
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post #586 of 1213
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

What is your signal chain like from Oppo to projector?

The projector's HDMI 1 input is fed by a 1 year old 25 foot HDMI cable (don't remember the brand, but it was not the cheapest) via a Denon AVR-X1000. Everything goes through the Denon and then onto the projector. If I'm watching Directv, Blu-ray or Roku, the Oppo feeds my Denon via HDMI, if playing XBOX or HD-DVD, they feed the Denon directly via HDMI. The 2 times it's failed to power on, I initiated the power on sequence from my Harmony Ultimate remote, once for Directv (i.e. also powers up the Oppo) and once XBOX. When the Harmony failed, I tried the JVC remote and then the button on the back of the projector.
post #587 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Hello. I've had my firmware updated RS4910 installed since this past Saturday. Sunday morning I fired it up and it would not turn on, using the remote or the power button on the back of the projector. The red standby light was on. The only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it and wait for 30 seconds, then plug it back in. I chalked that first time up to... I don't know... wishful thinking that it wouldn't happen again. Unfortunately, it happened again last night when I fired it up for the first time in about 20 hours. Same thing, only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it. Anyone else experiencing this issue?

I had my system installed yesterday and last night I had exactly the same issue as you are describing. Red standby light was on. I had to unplug it in order for it to turn on again. I'm using Oppo 103D also, with a direct HDMI 35 foot HDMI 1.4a cable from oppo into HDMI of the projector. 

 

I also noticed with Joe Kane's digital video essentials disc that on the contrast test pattern, that all my white bars flickered (like what you see when you watch bright white areas in 3D). Even when i'm turning contrast to  the minimum the flicker remains. I never had this on my previous JVC RS1. Does anybody know how to fix this? Is there no manual iris on the 4910 to lower the light output (I could not find it in the menus even though it's listed in the manual)?

post #588 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

The projector's HDMI 1 input is fed by a 1 year old 25 foot HDMI cable (don't remember the brand, but it was not the cheapest) via a Denon AVR-X1000. Everything goes through the Denon and then onto the projector. If I'm watching Directv, Blu-ray or Roku, the Oppo feeds my Denon via HDMI, if playing XBOX or HD-DVD, they feed the Denon directly via HDMI. The 2 times it's failed to power on, I initiated the power on sequence from my Harmony Ultimate remote, once for Directv (i.e. also powers up the Oppo) and once XBOX. When the Harmony failed, I tried the JVC remote and then the button on the back of the projector.

Check the software version that you have on the Oppo. If it is not the latest software, then install and try that. http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/blu-ray-BDP-103-Support.aspx?prodID=BDP103D
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post #589 of 1213
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post

Check the software version that you have on the Oppo. If it is not the latest software, then install and try that. http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/blu-ray-BDP-103-Support.aspx?prodID=BDP103D

I actually upgraded to the latest public beta release from 12/27/13. Maybe I should go back to the latest official release.
post #590 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Hello. I've had my firmware updated RS4910 installed since this past Saturday. Sunday morning I fired it up and it would not turn on, using the remote or the power button on the back of the projector. The red standby light was on. The only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it and wait for 30 seconds, then plug it back in. I chalked that first time up to... I don't know... wishful thinking that it wouldn't happen again. Unfortunately, it happened again last night when I fired it up for the first time in about 20 hours. Same thing, only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it. Anyone else experiencing this issue?

I mentioned in a past post this exact scenario happening about one day following installation of the new firmware on my X500. It hasn't happened again since with another 40-50 hours on the lamp.
post #591 of 1213
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Originally Posted by AV Science Sales 5 View Post


Check the software version that you have on the Oppo. If it is not the latest software, then install and try that. http://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-103/blu-ray-BDP-103-Support.aspx?prodID=BDP103D

I do have the latest software and the firmware version is confirmed on the projector. 

post #592 of 1213
Did anyone upgrade to the 49 from last years models.Im wondering if Its worth the upgrade.
post #593 of 1213
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Originally Posted by raullopez1234 View Post

Did anyone upgrade to the 49 from last years models.Im wondering if Its worth the upgrade.
Yes, I upgraded from the 4810 to the 4910. The 4910 is a definite improvement, but it wasn't quite worth the extra $2k net cost I paid.
post #594 of 1213
Thanks for the reply.You only live once.
post #595 of 1213
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Originally Posted by PJ2014 View Post

I had my system installed yesterday and last night I had exactly the same issue as you are describing. Red standby light was on. I had to unplug it in order for it to turn on again. I'm using Oppo 103D also, with a direct HDMI 35 foot HDMI 1.4a cable from oppo into HDMI of the projector. 

I also noticed with Joe Kane's digital video essentials disc that on the contrast test pattern, that all my white bars flickered (like what you see when you watch bright white areas in 3D). Even when i'm turning contrast to  the minimum the flicker remains. I never had this on my previous JVC RS1. Does anybody know how to fix this? Is there no manual iris on the 4910 to lower the light output (I could not find it in the menus even though it's listed in the manual)?
I think it did than on my RS57 when I chose super white. Auto fixed it for me (from the JVC menu).
post #596 of 1213
Good morning. Well, it happened again last night! Although my wife noticed this time after I performed the unplug procedure that when I powered it on, the green LED at first comes on, but then goes out. Is that normal? This time I had all sorts of trouble getting a picture to display... I don't even remember the procedures I went through to get it to work. My family was sitting around waiting for me to figure this out and giving me all sorts of bad looks.

Before I turned everything off last night, I put the Oppo 103D back to the latest approved firmware. This morning I powered the system on again. This time the projector turned on (green LED for awhile then it goes out), but no picture. In both these scenarios (last night and this morning) I'm trying to watch Directv through the Oppo and then through the Denon AVR. I had to go to work so I turned everything off. Not sure what would have happened had I tried XBOX (eliminates the Oppo).

I've had the Oppo for over 3 weeks with an RS46 and Sony 55ES connected to it. With all of the connections and settings the same, I never had any power on or HDMI handshake issues. Only when I introduced the RS49 to the system did this stuff start happening.

I love the picture on the RS49, noticeably better than the RS46 and way better in my opinion than the Sony. I really really want this RS49 to work out. Are there any users out there that have the new JVC's connected to the Oppo 103D that are not experiencing this issue, if so please tell me how you have things connected. I want Directv to run through the Oppo to take advantage of the Oppo video processing (only reason I bought it). Thanks you!
post #597 of 1213
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Originally Posted by PJ2014 View Post

I had my system installed yesterday and last night I had exactly the same issue as you are describing. Red standby light was on. I had to unplug it in order for it to turn on again. I'm using Oppo 103D also, with a direct HDMI 35 foot HDMI 1.4a cable from oppo into HDMI of the projector. 

I also noticed with Joe Kane's digital video essentials disc that on the contrast test pattern, that all my white bars flickered (like what you see when you watch bright white areas in 3D). Even when i'm turning contrast to  the minimum the flicker remains. I never had this on my previous JVC RS1. Does anybody know how to fix this? Is there no manual iris on the 4910 to lower the light output (I could not find it in the menus even though it's listed in the manual)?

The iris settings are located under the Advanced Setting on the remote. If its grayed out, disable the auto-iris, make the manual adjustment, then you can re-enable the AI and it will use your manual iris selection for the peak white level.
post #598 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Good morning. Well, it happened again last night! Although my wife noticed this time after I performed the unplug procedure that when I powered it on, the green LED at first comes on, but then goes out. Is that normal? This time I had all sorts of trouble getting a picture to display... I don't even remember the procedures I went through to get it to work. My family was sitting around waiting for me to figure this out and giving me all sorts of bad looks.



I love the picture on the RS49, noticeably better than the RS46 and way better in my opinion than the Sony. I really really want this RS49 to work out. Are there any users out there that have the new JVC's connected to the Oppo 103D that are not experiencing this issue, if so please tell me how you have things connected. I want Directv to run through the Oppo to take advantage of the Oppo video processing (only reason I bought it). Thanks you!

Can you elaborate on why you prefer the 49 over the 46 and 55, just trying to get a baseline.

Thx
post #599 of 1213
Also how about a brightness comparison, what's your screen size?

Thx so much
post #600 of 1213
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Hello. I've had my firmware updated RS4910 installed since this past Saturday. Sunday morning I fired it up and it would not turn on, using the remote or the power button on the back of the projector. The red standby light was on. The only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it and wait for 30 seconds, then plug it back in. I chalked that first time up to... I don't know... wishful thinking that it wouldn't happen again. Unfortunately, it happened again last night when I fired it up for the first time in about 20 hours. Same thing, only way to get it to turn on was to unplug it. Anyone else experiencing this issue?

Add another person to the list that have had this issue post firmware update. I've have my projector for about a week, and I received it with the firmware update already installed. I've used the projector for close to a week without any issues (switching between XBox 360, Dish PVR, and Oppo 93 with latest with latest firmware ). This happened to me for the first time last night when I did the following: I was watching TV on the Dish DVR and paused it to put the kids down. I turned the projector off using the stand by button on the remote to avoid adding wasted time to the bulb life...I did this often on my old Panasonic. It powered down fine and the red LED came on. About a half an hour later I came back to turn it on using the remote...and it didn't work. I then tried using the button on the PJ itself...and nothing (I can reach that standing on my chair). I went downstairs...grabbed the ladder (major pain in arse)...and then unplugged it all together for about 30 seconds. I was then able to turn it on using the remote. I have not attempted to turn the thing on since I was finished last night. I will try when I get home. The only thing out of the ordinary that I did last night was view a 3D blu-ray for the first time. This was prior to watching TV on the Dish DVR. For extra information...I watch the Oppo on HDMI 1 input which is directly connected to the PJ' input 1. The Dish DVR runs through my Onkyo receiver (also with latest firmware) and is connected to HDMI 2 on the PJ. I definitely have a feeling there are more firmware updates needed to have this thing working reliably. It's still a brand new product. Anyone purchasing is an early adopter. Now I wish I had the my wall outlet in the ceiling tied to switch on the wall biggrin.gif.
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