Originally Posted by carter840
So I think most of us realize that an AVR is already old tech in 3-4 years after you purchase it, or at the very least there is something new and flashy that you would rather have. This is the reason that we should all be using processors and separate amplifiers. Most of you seem to realize this, but is there any solution or a solution in sight?
It just baffles me that none of the big names in AVRs are producing separate processors with the same slew of features that their mid level AVRs have. For example it should be easy to buy a processor with 6 HDMI in-ports, EQ, and all the bells and whistles for under $500, and the amplifier should cost less than $300. It just seems that every large manufacturer knows that by selling us AVRs for a better price than the processor/amp option we will come back to them and spend the money all over again in a few years. I know that Outlaw is one company that seems to be trying to enter this void in the market, but they are missing the big features on their processes that so many of us want. Is there any reason that Denon, HK, or Onkyo don't just break free from the others and offer smartly packaged separate amplifiers and processors? When did the market turn like this?
I would respectfully disagree with the statement that we should ALL be using processors and separate amps. Mainly for the reason that YOU put forth yourself.
'It just baffles me that none of the big names in AVRs are producing separate processors with the same slew of features that their mid level AVRs have"
This is exactly the reason. I personally can't imagine purchasing a decent receiver today from Denon, Anthem, Marantz, or whoever, for about 2k or so, and wanting something else in 3 or 4 years. Unless of course you just have money to burn. Today's receivers are so feature packed, unless there is some major technological breakthrough, I expect to get 8 to 10 years out of a receiver. You can definitely make a case for a separate amp, if you have large or inefficient speakers, or a big listening space and the amps in your receiver are just running out of power. I know companies like Outlaw and Emo or trying to fill the void, but I personally would not purchase from them. So a decent preamp, from say Marantz will run about what $1500? Then, you wouldn't want to pair it with cheap amps. So you are conservatively looking at LEAST another grand for amplification. That's $2500 to $3000. If you stack that against a good receiver, how much more performance could you expect to get from the amp and processor combo? I know buying separates offer more flexibility when it comes to upgrades. Please understand that I am in no way poo pooing separates. When I have the space and the cash, I will certainly consider them. But for me personally, it's about performance vs dollars spent.
Just my 2 cents..Edited by music first - 12/16/13 at 7:48am