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flat/ghost wire in rental apartment?

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I have to run some wires along the walls and maybe on the hardwood floor. And i was wondering if, instead of nailing those wire hangers along the bottom of the wall and then having to remove then and worry about what my rental agreement think about those little holes... what if I splurged $200 on tons of 'ghost wire' such as http://www.amazon.com/Aurum-Cables-Adhesive-Speaker-Rated/dp/B00B779IXU/

my idea is to just run those on the walls, floors... leaving them visible (it would even match the minimalist deco decor) and then by the end of the lease i just rip the out...


now, besides the obvious question about them being any good, i present the weirder question:

anyone ever used those and riped them off walls? will it damage the paint too much? will it do anything to real hardwood if left for longer periods?

Plan B, if they do much damage, would be to run them on walls only, paint over, and forget... would the land lord notice them later? smile.gif

thanks!
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Seems like a decent idea in theory. I have no idea about the paint thing, though. And as to whether the landlord would be mad about touch up paint probably depends on your painting abilities . . . biggrin.gif

You're not lucky enough to have carpet in your apartment are you? Because you'd be surprised what you can tuck into the crevice between carpet and baseboard.
post #3 of 6
Assuming you're not hanging speakers on the wall with your "damage" concerns, why even attach the wire to the baseboard/walls at all? If you get wire with a flexible enough jacket (say what you want about Monster's marketing, but they're wire is easy to work with), you should be able to "train" it to lay on the floor right up against the baseboard. Cut to length and leave it stretched out for a couple of days to let it relax and then place. If it needs encouragement to conform to its final location, just use some painter's tape for a few days. Resort to some strategically placed double-sided tape if all else fails.

A few years ago, I bought some "flat" 16g wire by the foot at Lowes'. I put flat in quotes b/c it's much thinner than traditional round wire, but it's not tape thin as in your link. It was also white, which I would expect to be the typical baseboard trim color in a rental unit. This Lowes' wire had a very flexible jacket and needed little encouragement to lay flat and straight. No clue if they still carry it. I want to say it was under $0.50/ft, but that's been several years. If not still available at Lowes', it looks like this product, but no clue if the jackets are actually the same.

HTH.

-Brent
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Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post

Seems like a decent idea in theory. I have no idea about the paint thing, though. And as to whether the landlord would be mad about touch up paint probably depends on your painting abilities . . . biggrin.gif

You're not lucky enough to have carpet in your apartment are you? Because you'd be surprised what you can tuck into the crevice between carpet and baseboard.

hardwood all around. was actually the reason i choose the place smile.gif

about the paint... i was thinking about painting it over and forgetting it. only cliping the ends when the lease is up... they do advertise you can paint over...
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Assuming you're not hanging speakers on the wall with your "damage" concerns, why even attach the wire to the baseboard/walls at all? If you get wire with a flexible enough jacket (say what you want about Monster's marketing, but they're wire is easy to work with), you should be able to "train" it to lay on the floor right up against the baseboard. Cut to length and leave it stretched out for a couple of days to let it relax and then place. If it needs encouragement to conform to its final location, just use some painter's tape for a few days. Resort to some strategically placed double-sided tape if all else fails.

A few years ago, I bought some "flat" 16g wire by the foot at Lowes'. I put flat in quotes b/c it's much thinner than traditional round wire, but it's not tape thin as in your link. It was also white, which I would expect to be the typical baseboard trim color in a rental unit. This Lowes' wire had a very flexible jacket and needed little encouragement to lay flat and straight. No clue if they still carry it. I want to say it was under $0.50/ft, but that's been several years. If not still available at Lowes', it looks like this product, but no clue if the jackets are actually the same.

HTH.

-Brent

that is some good idea too. The ghost wire (take a look at the link in my 1st post) is 1/5 the price of monsters... and they have in white and transparent (transparent tape and the coper showing, obviously)... i was thinking about running them on the floor just for the looks of it... but now i think the roomba and the neato would destroy them pretty fast...

also, i finally found some real world picures of a similar product... i don't think it as easy to conceive as I originally though from the marketing photos... http://howtoinstallflatspeakercable.com/

i think i will try to make my 18 and 16 wire straight and do as you say... what's a good way to do that? with small jumper cables i'd use 2 third-hands stretching them and apply the soldering wire for a few seconds... maybe straighting them under the california sun for a few hours?
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Originally Posted by gcbavs View Post

that is some good idea too. The ghost wire (take a look at the link in my 1st post) is 1/5 the price of monsters... and they have in white and transparent (transparent tape and the coper showing, obviously)... i was thinking about running them on the floor just for the looks of it... but now i think the roomba and the neato would destroy them pretty fast...

also, i finally found some real world picures of a similar product... i don't think it as easy to conceive as I originally though from the marketing photos... http://howtoinstallflatspeakercable.com/

i think i will try to make my 18 and 16 wire straight and do as you say... what's a good way to do that? with small jumper cables i'd use 2 third-hands stretching them and apply the soldering wire for a few seconds... maybe straighting them under the california sun for a few hours?

Some wire probably can't be completely straightened, no matter what. It will depend on how the copper is braided and the material used for the insulation jacket. I've seen stuff that will support its weight out to 12" or so when supported by one end and others that will wrap around your finger and then lay flat with no memory at all.

I would start by simply stretching out a length on the floor and weighting it at each end with as much tension as you can apply. Maybe run a hair dryer across it a bit to help it relax. If you've got somewhere with enough height, you could weight one end and suspend the weight to let the wire straighten and untwist its memory. If it's not a lot of wire, I'd look for the wire I linked at Lowes' or order from P-E.

-Brent
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