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post #61 of 117
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PHOTO UPDATE: The update I've been anticipating for a few weeks now...the finished (nearly) media room as of last night. I'll take better pics soon for a final post as these came out kind of dark, but these give you a pretty good idea of how it turned out.

100" in a black hole. All room lighting off.


With lights turned up...100% screen accent lights, 50% room lights. Too bright to watch PJ, but ok for music


More mood photos...



About as bright as I'd ever have it while watching the projector...screen accent lights off, room about 40% of brightness.



General room photos...still have some cleanup to do after this weekends work, but at least functional now.




The wife even got in on the act and went "pillow shopping" plus picked up the dark brown thick shag accent rug for in front of the sofa. LOL! Got her trained right!


Still lots of odds and ends to do, but the big stuff is done. Project list now consists of:
Countertop installation in 5-7 days
Under cabinet and bar cabinet LED lighting
A/V cabinet wiring (final version, not the hasty, messy setup it is now)
Set up HDbaseT configuration between bar tv and a/v rack
Set up Plasma TV on stand for casual tv watching
Program Harmony Ultimate remote

Let me know what you guys think. I'm 1000% happy with how it turned out.

I'll try to post better photos later plus give a rundown of the audio/video impressions once I've had time to run Audessey and video calibrate.
post #62 of 117
I think the room looks amazing. I really like the architectural look of the trim on the screen wall. Such a nice touch there.

The furnishings look great too. We had tan felt on our pool table when I was growing up and I've always been partial to that look. It really fits with the rest of the room.
post #63 of 117
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I think the room looks amazing. I really like the architectural look of the trim on the screen wall. Such a nice touch there.

The furnishings look great too. We had tan felt on our pool table when I was growing up and I've always been partial to that look. It really fits with the rest of the room.

Thanks Weldon! I'm more than happy with how the screen wall turned out...I even like the subtle woodgrain of the inner squares (didn't think I would at first). And yeah, the first time I had the pool table set up (in the original version of the basement) it was the traditional championship green. That would've been hideous in this new color scheme, so the tan/khaki was the natural fit. Only thing was (and this is funny now, but not at the time)...the day the table was re-installed/re-felted the family came down and we played a few games of 8-ball. None of them have any skills when it comes to the game, but what the heck, it was fun. That is until my wife decided to mishit a shot and the cue tip (with the old green chalk on it) left a big green mark on the 2-hour old new felt. LOL. I had just bought new light brown chalk when I got the felt, but she grabbed a cue that I hadn't reshaped the tip on yet to remove the old chalk. So "chalk" that one up to my error ultimately. It mostly came out with a bit of vigorous brushing, but I know it's there and now I have another basement remodel story to file away. Haha!

On a completely separate note, I noticed one of your posts in the Logitech Harmony Ultimate thread earlier today...asking about ceiling/wall-mounting the harmony hub to control in-cabinet equipment. I'm happy to say that I played around with my new Harmony Ultimate remote/hub last night and I don't think you'll need to mount it out in front of your cabinet. My hub sits on the top open shelf of my in-wall rack (along with the apple TV and Roku) and just protrudes out over the front edge of the rack/cabinet by a quarter inch or so...and so far I've been able to control everything (even the roku and apple tv that sit behind the hub on the top shelf) using the hub only. I didn't even need to use the included blasters or figure out creative positioning of the hub/blasters...so it must be a pretty powerful IR transmitter or I'm just really lucky and my "bounce angles" are just right (purely by accident). I'm very pleased with the remote so far after just doing a basic programming of a few activities. Hope that helps. Good luck on your build...I've been keeping an eye on yours too.

post #64 of 117
That's great to hear about the Harmony Ultimate. I might try putting the blaster directly above the rack. That would save me from wiring a new outlet or fixing up some janky extension cord.

I couldn't help but smile at the green chalk on tan felt story. Glad it came out though.
post #65 of 117
mstivers302,

I'm looking at using that same Monoprice HDbase-T kit. Do you have any feedback or opinions on how it setup and is working?

Thanks, Damon
post #66 of 117
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mstivers302,

I'm looking at using that same Monoprice HDbase-T kit. Do you have any feedback or opinions on how it setup and is working?
Thanks, Damon

Damon,
Unfortunately I haven't had the chance to hook that up yet so I can't give you any opinions of it other than from my purchase research...which was mostly positive. Right now I'm just running my bar tv off the digital tuner and smart tv apps. I hope to get around to connecting it this weekend and if I do I'll certainly post me first impressions of it.

I have, however, connected the IoGear wireless HD transmitter and receiver and it is working flawlessly. Not sure of your setup, but that might be worth looking at if you're just trying to mirror a display over a reasonable difference.

Sorry I'm not more help in regard to the monoprice unit yet though. I'll keep you posted.
post #67 of 117
I would be interested to hear how the HDbase kit works as well. I will have a bar tv and my projector and would love to find a way to share the same comcast set top box. Saving anything on my already huge cable bill monthly would be nice! I was also looking at maybe going with an HDHomerun prime device so I could control both tv's seperately.
Edited by gec5741 - 2/19/14 at 6:52am
post #68 of 117
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Dang! Pressure is on me now! LOL. Maybe I'll try to tinker with it tonight to give you guys some feedback ASAP...I just hadn't made it a top priority yet since I had bigger fish to fry, but I'll certainly move it up the list since several of you guys are inquiring. I'll keep you posted fellas.
post #69 of 117
No problem. Looking forward to your feedback on the Monoprice HDBase-t kit.
post #70 of 117
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HDbaseT MATRIX SETUP REPORT: Worked setting up the monoprice HDbaseT Matrix unit for awhile tonight. I still had to terminate the ends of the two cat5e cable runs with RJ45 plugs and since I've only done that a couple of times, so it took me some time. With everything wired up I fired up the matrix power on both ends...after a couple of seconds of the main media room blanking out while the matrix and bar tv were doing the handshake thing a picture perfect mirror image of the main screen appeared on the bar tv. No sparkles or pixelation, etc...and this was over probably a 100 ft run (since I haven't cut the cat5e cables to their final length yet...probably 30-40 ft coiled up at the bar end).

Happy with the picture...just one issue I need to address at this point. No audio is being transmitted...or if it is, I've got an incorrect setting or hookup somewhere. I tried both of the two cat5e runs thinking it might be a cable thing, but same result on both. Tried a couple different HDbaseT out plugs on the back of the transmitter in case I had a bad port...no dice. Now it's late, monoprice help desk is closed and I'm tired as hell, so I'll address the issue later. I'm confident it'll work out since HDbaseT is capable of carrying 5.1 audio (and I'm just sending audio to a soundbar on the bar end). I don't think it's an issue with the unit since the image is perfect, more likely I've terminated the cables incorrectly (both are the same). I terminated the cables as a straight cable and not crossover because that's the first thing I read, but that doesn't mean that was right. I'll check around and post in the hdmi/hdbaset forums tomorrow and see if anyone has a solution.

If anyone reading this has any input, please chime in...I'm completely new to HDbaseT and I'm looking for any help I can get. To Damon and Gec, don't be discouraged about the mono price unit yet...I'd bet money that I've simply done something wrong. I'll continue to report as I work through this problem. Thanks.
post #71 of 117
Quote: MStivers302
I have, however, connected the IoGear wireless HD transmitter and receiver and it is working flawlessly. Not sure of your setup, but that might be worth looking at if you're just trying to mirror a display over a reasonable difference.

I would have to second this statement I set up the IOGear to run my bedroom tv from my 2nd HDMI out on Yamaha receiver basically I have access to my Hometheater sources in my second room great for cutting cable bills on that second room and accessing Apple tv and other sources especially when I had the flu and didnt want to leave the room!!! :D

post #72 of 117

MStivers302,

 

I have been watching this thread from afar for a few weeks just wanted to say that this build is amazing. I am still in the idea phase not even the planning phase but you have definately given me alot of inspiration for some ideas. 

post #73 of 117
So what exactly is the difference between the IOGear and the HDBaseT matrix? In terms of end result I mean. Are they both devices that allow you send a signal from your set top device to a remote tv? Or are they a bit different and work together? I am still trying to figure out what I am going to do with my bar TV. I don't really want to pay the cable company an extra 30 or so bucks a month for extra recievers. I will have my media room, Bar TV, and Kids area TV. The kids tv will be mainly for video games and movies which I can handle through my plex setup so i'm not terribly concerened about getting TV to it but if I can that's an extra bonus. From what I know about the HDBase T matrix's is that they are basically way's to plit or mirror your signal from one source to multiple TV's through hdmi over ethernet right?

Has anyone looked into using an HD Homerun Prime uinit? From what I can gather with this device you can pay a small monthly fee from your cable provider for some sort of access card. that card goes into the device and it will allow you to control each tv independantly so you can watch different programming on each device. From what I can tell though you need a pc connected to each TV. But I believe it may work through the smart TV's capabilities as well so you would not need a TV. I have to read more about it myself. Just curious if anyone has any experience with them. I may just go with a matrix as I really don't know if I'll need to be able to watch different shows at once.

At any rate Thanks for the information! Keep us posted on your sound issue as well! I'm sure you'll get it figured out. I did some googleing quick but didn't find much. I'll keep looking.
post #74 of 117
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Originally Posted by gec5741 View Post

So what exactly is the difference between the IOGear and the HDBaseT matrix? In terms of end result I mean. Are they both devices that allow you send a signal from your set top device to a remote tv? Or are they a bit different and work together? I am still trying to figure out what I am going to do with my bar TV. I don't really want to pay the cable company an extra 30 or so bucks a month for extra recievers. I will have my media room, Bar TV, and Kids area TV. The kids tv will be mainly for video games and movies which I can handle through my plex setup so i'm not terribly concerened about getting TV to it but if I can that's an extra bonus. From what I know about the HDBase T matrix's is that they are basically way's to plit or mirror your signal from one source to multiple TV's through hdmi over ethernet right?

Has anyone looked into using an HD Homerun Prime uinit? From what I can gather with this device you can pay a small monthly fee from your cable provider for some sort of access card. that card goes into the device and it will allow you to control each tv independantly so you can watch different programming on each device. From what I can tell though you need a pc connected to each TV. But I believe it may work through the smart TV's capabilities as well so you would not need a TV. I have to read more about it myself. Just curious if anyone has any experience with them. I may just go with a matrix as I really don't know if I'll need to be able to watch different shows at once.

At any rate Thanks for the information! Keep us posted on your sound issue as well! I'm sure you'll get it figured out. I did some googleing quick but didn't find much. I'll keep looking.

 

Gec,

 

From my understanding the HDBaseT is a cat5 HDMI run that converts it to that cable then back to HDMI for longer runs I do not know much about it as I was looking for an option to run that second room that's what someone pointed to right before It was suggested I go towards the IoGear. Iogear is wireless and comes with one hub for the main room and one for the extra room. It is wireless so I am sure the signal strength diminishes around 30-50 feet and cant go through much material but was great for what I was looking for. I was a little skeptical at first about it working and the price tag being some where at the $150 to $175 range and It took a minute or two to get it paired properly but has worked fantastically for my setup. As far as your multiple room situation their was a option to get an extra box or two that would be compatible with the Home hub on your main setup.  I hope that answered your question.

post #75 of 117
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Gec...
End result of the IOGear Wireless HD and the HDBaseT matrix are essentially the exact same. As you say, both send a signal from source device (my AVR) to a remote TV. I use (or plan to use) the HDBaseT unit to mirror the main TV signal on the bar TV with sound bar. I use the IOGear Wireless HD from the AVR to another 51" TV (on a mobile stand) that I roll out in front of the PJ screen when I want to watch casual TV and not use the PJ's bulb. Wanted a wireless solution for the portable TV so that I didn't have a mess of cables running everywhere when I wheel it out...so now only a power cord is visible. In the bar, everything is wired in a closet so wires weren't an issue. Those are the only reasons I explored two different solutions.

That being said...the intended end results are identical...and I must say, the wireless HD solution has impressed me quite a bit so far (and less money). Because of my setup I don't need to use them, but it comes with IR blasters and remote allowing you to control the source from the remote location. The transmitter end still has a port for an HDMI out, so even after you've run an HDMI source cable to it for the wireless signal, you still have the ability to hardwire out of the transmitter end with HDMI to a local display. Considering my setup, if for some reason I can't get the HDBaseT unit to work, I have confidence that a second wireless HD setup would work fine for my bar TV setup. Like you, I simply don't want to pay TimeWarner for another cable box on a TV that won't get a lot of use. Through the Samsung Smart TV (in the bar) i can get all my local networks in HD using the built-in digital tuner, and then plenty of others in HD (ESPN, Golf Channel, etc) using the TWC TV app in the Samsungs Smart Hub...for those times I want a separate TV feed from the main TV. All this effort trying to mirror the main TV is basically for those rare times when I want the same feed on all 3 TV's in the basement (from a channel that I can't normally get in HD). When I think about it...it's pretty much all "overkill", but hey, I like techy, cool stuff so what the hell, huh? LOL.

I just got offline with Monoprice chat and the guy there suggested to troubleshoot using shorter cat5e cables to see if my missing audio issue is a cable length thing. I didn't cut the cat5e cables to their finished length last night as I was just going for a quick setup to give you guys some feedback, so there's probably 30-35 feet of unnecessary cable coiled up on the receiver end. I'll cut it to proper length and try again tonight...and even do some tests using 10 ft lengths to see if that works at all.

Gec, if I understand your setup correctly, it sounds very similar to what I want to accomplish. I might suggest taking a look at the IOGear Wireless HD option (especially for your bar TV), since it's probably fairly close to your source (transmitter). Mine was working fine from about 40ft across an open floor plan. I still hope to get the HDbaseT audio working, but even if it doesn't I still have video (which would always be the same feed as the main source), so I could simply turn up the volume on the main source and turn off video source there if need be. Other option is to return the whole HDBaseT setup and go with a second wireless HD unit. I'll keep you posted...and thanks for looking around for info on my issue. Once it got late last night, I gave up and went to bed! LOL
post #76 of 117
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HognDog...
My sentiments exactly on the IOGear wireless...I have no qualms recommending that unit (especially for the price). And thanks for the compliments! Glad to hear my back-a$$wards OCD approach to a basement renovation has actually helped someone out! LOL.
post #77 of 117
Well I have a lot to think about and it seems like many way's to consider going. I'm still a way's away from needing to pull the trigger on any solution. I guess I should just try and focus on getting my basement finished first! smile.gif I get sooo scatter brained when it comes to the basement. So many things rolling around my big empty head! But yea like you I'm techy. I tend to annoy my wife to no end. But I work in IT so I guess she should of known better before marrying me smile.gif And I'm pre wiring any TV location with a minimum of 4 cat6 lines along with flex chase in case I need to add later so I should be good to go when its time to hook up any sort of solution. And yep like you I tend to do the overkill thing and do it well smile.gif

Thanks again for the information!
post #78 of 117

MStivers302

 

Ha im designing my sound system before I buy the house this summer just trying to figure out my options nothing this elaborate yet but talk about Backasswards. I wish I would have jumped right into a house to begin with but this new job transfer was only supposed to be temporary not turn into a promotion so I guess im sticking around the Chicago area longer than expected.

post #79 of 117
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Well I have a lot to think about and it seems like many way's to consider going. I'm still a way's away from needing to pull the trigger on any solution. I guess I should just try and focus on getting my basement finished first! smile.gif I get sooo scatter brained when it comes to the basement. So many things rolling around my big empty head! But yea like you I'm techy. I tend to annoy my wife to no end. But I work in IT so I guess she should of known better before marrying me smile.gif And I'm pre wiring any TV location with a minimum of 4 cat6 lines along with flex chase in case I need to add later so I should be good to go when its time to hook up any sort of solution. And yep like you I tend to do the overkill thing and do it well smile.gif

Thanks again for the information!

Haha! I feel your pain bro. I get all excited when some neat feature I've planned out works correctly and tell my wife to come down and check it out and she just smiles and rolls her eyes. LOL! She's just happy now that she's able to shop for throw pillows and crap to hang on the walls and clutter up tables (but only in the areas I'm allowing her to!) You'll get there soon enough buddy...just take your time and when you think you've exhausted your research/planning on a particular part of your setup - act on it before you have a chance to reconsider. It took me 4 years to figure that one out!!!! Smart move on all the pre-wiring...you can't do enough future-proofing in my opinion. Although, by the time we all get finished with our renovations everything will be wireless or run off plutonium anyway! hahaha!
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LOL! She's just happy now that she's able to shop for throw pillows and crap to hang on the walls and clutter up tables (but only in the areas I'm allowing her to!)

Wow you and my wife should get together. That sounds EXACTLY like her! Yea all this pre wireing and future proofing is what's taking me sooo long. The wife may never understand but oh well. She really dosen't have to. I just want to get to the point of drywalling. Then I'll know that all these little details are behind me! I'm getting close. My list of little details is getting smaller and smaller. I'm on to insulating now and need to take care of the final framing touchups and such.

And yea I don't even bother showing the wife when something works or HOW it works for that matter because I'll just get the eye rolls too. smile.gif

EDT: man now I just totally messed myself up in my way's of thinking about all of the TV distrabution stuff! I was asking myself Just when would I really need to be able to play different channels to the media room and bar at the same time? then it came to me. FOOTBALL season! grrrrrr.... I may be stuck paying comcast. Guess I have to figure out if it's really worth that though. Or go back to the HDHomerun prime idea at least.
Edited by gec5741 - 2/20/14 at 9:12am
post #81 of 117
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Gec,
Yeah, football season and march madness are the two main times when a separate feed is almost a must for me too...but as long as TimeWarner stays as is and the possible deal with Comcast doesn't change things for awhile, I can always run a separate unique channel on the TWC TV app on the smart tv in the bar and use the cable feed for the media room. If they ever change...I'M SCREWED. LOL.

If...or more likely, when that happens I may take a serious look at the new Tivo Roamio Plus box with a $2.50 cable card from TimeWarner/Comcast and run a few Tivo Mini's in the bar and master bedroom and eliminate my TWC dvr's all together. Cheaper monthly, but the up front equipment and service subscription will make it tough to break even for a long time. Have you looked at the new Tivo's at all? They look promising for accomplishing the type setup we're trying to do...especially when you throw the cheap Tivo Mini's into the mix. Maybe worth you checking out if you haven't. They might give the same function as the HD Homerun you've mentioned.

Anyway, that's another problem for another day for me to over think at another time. HaHa! For now I have accomplished was I was hoping to do.
post #82 of 117
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HDbaseT UPDATE: OK...so I putzed around with the monoprice HDBaseT matrix tonight and by process of elimination I finally got it to work correctly. Long story short (or as short as I can make it), it wasn't a cat5e cable issue at all. I tried shorter lengths, straight vs crossover and even a short cat6 cable...but no matter what, I couldn't get audio to the remote tv...only video. Since cable/termination error was eliminated...I moved to possible HDCP handshake issues. Originally (when it didn't work) I had the HDMI from from TimeWarner DVR going into the Onkyo 818 AVR first, then since it has two HDMI outputs, I connected one to the projector and the other to the IOGear Wireless HD unit. From the IOGear, I connected (via another HDMI) to the Monoprice HDbaseT Matrix. That's what DIDN'T work.

The solution that now has me with perfect image and audio at both remote sources is as follows: I had to come straight out of the TimeWarner DVR with an HDMI to the Monoprice HDbaseT matrix...at that point, I had video and audio at the remote bar tv via CAT5e (regardless of the 80 ft or longer length). From there, I used the HDMI out on the MP HDbaseT matrix to go BACK to the Onkyo with an HDMI to the Cable/Satellite HDMI input. At that point, everything was back to normal on all displays...I simply had to insert the HDbaseT unit BETWEEN my cable box/DVR and the Onkyo AVR. A convoluted, overdone solution for sure...and I may leave it unconnected except for those occasions where I want to mirror the main feed in the bar...but at least it works and I know how to do it. (INSERT LONG SIGH HERE) !!!!

Gec & Damon (and anybody else who was curious and wanting feedback) --- I hope that helps. I was glad to be the guinea pig on this one. Let me know if you end up pursuing the HDbaseT option...but for now I can say I'm pretty happy with the way it's working for a relatively low-budget solution.
post #83 of 117
Thanks that is helpful! I'll look into the tivo thing for sure. I'm kind of leaning toward that HDHOmerun if in fact it works with a smart tv app. My thought is this, For my setup I already have a few PC's that connect to TV's. I'll set up one to be my "DVR" and record straight to a plex location on my network. Then when I would want to watch any recorded shows on any of my devices/tv's I can just go to plex and they will automatically be there. This is all in theory but it should work. The cost would be the upfront cost of the hardware and then of course the cable card. But I will also look into the Tivo version as well to see how that all works. To make things even more complicated I am thinking about putting in a good HD antena up in the attic and run that down into the basement. I live in between Chicago and Milwaukee. Me being a die hard (don't think less of me) Green Bay Packer fan but living in Illinois I'm hoping through the antena I'd be able to pick up packer games. Then on Sunday's I could switch over to the antena on one display for packer games and the other for the bear game. it would be great to have both on for Sunday football! But again I have some time to figure it all out. My main concern right now is just get the basement finished and get my equipment up and running. Then I'll figure out all my signal's and feeds etc.
Edited by gec5741 - 2/21/14 at 7:08am
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Originally Posted by mstivers302 View Post


If...or more likely, when that happens I may take a serious look at the new Tivo Roamio Plus box with a $2.50 cable card from TimeWarner/Comcast and run a few Tivo Mini's in the bar and master bedroom and eliminate my TWC dvr's all together. Cheaper monthly, but the up front equipment and service subscription will make it tough to break even for a long time. Have you looked at the new Tivo's at all? They look promising for accomplishing the type setup we're trying to do...especially when you throw the cheap Tivo Mini's into the mix. Maybe worth you checking out if you haven't. They might give the same function as the HD Homerun you've mentioned.

I haven't tried out the Roamio, as a cord cutter it doesn't offer much of an upgrade at this point. Only the lowest model can be used with an antenna.

That being said, I absolutely LOVE our TiVos. Well worth the reasonable monthly cost, especially when I'm not paying for cable or satellite on top of it. The Roamios offer a faster processor on the same great interface that I have with the Premiere.

The built-in apps will probably be more useful on the Roamios. As is on the Premiere, it's faster to switch over to the AppleTV to use the apps. The Netflix app on the TiVo Premiere is horribly slow to load.

TiVo has the best interface and by FAR the best remote out there. I had the first model TiVo ever released for DirecTV and used various versions until they stopped working with DirecTV. When I decided to cancel DirecTV, it was the TiVo Premiere that made it possible. Had to have a DVR. I caved and turned cable back on for a year, but I didn't want to deal with their crappy DVR, so I kept my TiVo's and paid for the cable card. It was fine. Didn't have access to PPV or OnDemand content at the time (though most providers do now). Back to just the antenna and couldn't be happier.

Someday I'll probably look at the Roamio, just for the faster interface. But for now the Premieres are just fine.
post #85 of 117
Just checked out what Tivo had to offer on their website. Looks really nice. It would be a bit pricey up front for the hardware though. Will see. I like the way it all looks though. It would definately be easier to setup then the HDHomerun prime and proably work with less issues which adds into the WAF. I'll have to serously concider this option. It would be nice to get rid of the lame comcast DVRs I have now and lower the cable bill a tad.

EDIT: The only thing I don't quite get with the TiVo Romio is there doesn't seem to be a standard TV guide at all. So if I have comcast and I just want to pull up a guide to flip through a list of channels and what's on them it dosn't seem to have that. maybe i'm not seeing it really.
Edited by gec5741 - 2/21/14 at 1:29pm
post #86 of 117
Ive been lurking around your HT build for awhile now,you have a top notch HT!! Im about 120 miles southeast of you,love seeing another Ky guy with a A+ theater great job!!!!! wish mine looked 1/2 as good,I put too much $ in my gear not enough on the room!
post #87 of 117
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Ive been lurking around your HT build for awhile now,you have a top notch HT!! Im about 120 miles southeast of you,love seeing another Ky guy with a A+ theater great job!!!!! wish mine looked 1/2 as good,I put too much $ in my gear not enough on the room!

Thanks dholmes! Its awesome to have another KY guy chime in! It's been a long slow process these past few years (not the actual build, but definitely the planning part!), but now I finally have that "destination" in the house that the whole family can enjoy. Having a nice HT was actually a secondary goal to having a great "family & friends" social spot...and to that means it has been a success. Last night the wife, two daughters and I played pool, foosball and watched a movie on the big screen. Next weekend an "grown up" party might be on the docket!, LOL!

And yeah, I walked a really fine line in the balance between equipment cost and remodel cost too...I was just fortunate to have already had a majority of the more costly a/v items.
post #88 of 117
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Saturday was pretty much a bust for basement work....except for finding this steal on craigslist,


Good thing the price was right, considering it took me and a buddy almost 5 hours to disassemble it, fight this beast up a flight of stairs from the sellers basement, down the stairs to my basement, and reassemble/level all over again. But once it was set up, the family and I had a great time with it last night.

Now, other than a counter-height bar table and 6-8 stools, pretty much all the furnishings and major purchases needed are complete. Bar cabinet countertop/sink should be installed by midweek. I plan to work several evenings this week on the finishing touches in hopes of showing it off with a christening party for a few couples next weekend.
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EDIT: The only thing I don't quite get with the TiVo Romio is there doesn't seem to be a standard TV guide at all. So if I have comcast and I just want to pull up a guide to flip through a list of channels and what's on them it dosn't seem to have that. maybe i'm not seeing it really.

The TiVo definitely has that. In my opinion it still has the best guide I've seen.
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EDIT: The only thing I don't quite get with the TiVo Romio is there doesn't seem to be a standard TV guide at all. So if I have comcast and I just want to pull up a guide to flip through a list of channels and what's on them it dosn't seem to have that. maybe i'm not seeing it really.
The TiVo has a guide screen where you can see the listings for what's on right now and you can change the time in the guide to see what will be on in the future. TiVo provides about 2 weeks of listings data.

I really like TiVo. If you have any questions about it, I would highly recommend http://tivocommunity.com
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