Originally Posted by JonStatt
I wish I could see the DI first-hand as it is the defining factor of this years models. It also seems to have come with its compromises such as the removal of the 11 point gamma control. I still find that hard to comprehend as it forces the need for an off-board solution like a Radiance to calibrate. If you are forcing that to be the case, then there isn't any point in providing a CMS on the projector either as if you have a Radiance then the CMS is handled there as well. The Calman direct JVC calibration will be limited as well I assume.
Reading Kevin's description of the 3D and warm-up, it sounds like its pretty much the same as the 2013 models (which were a vast improvement on the 2012). To Kevin's point, the extra brightness was added in the 2012 models with a load more ghosting to go with it. The brightness has then stayed similar through 2013 and I assume 2014 but with the ghosting fixed. Wolverine starts off with a panning shot that shows some obvious ghosting. If you repeat the scene after a good warm-up it is "just" there if you look for it again. I was not aware of any ghosting elsewhere in the movie either and I don't think it was very good for 3D anyway. Interestingly the 2013 models warmed up a lot faster only once you had it in 3D mode, not just sitting in high bulb mode. You can find ways to worsen ghosting such as over-sharpening. I need to understand more about the "new" 3D modes. On the RS56 there were lots of extra 3D modes stacked in the 3D preset. There were 4 3D gamma presets optimised for movies or animations. And similarly there were matching 3D presets for cinema or animations (which was a new feature compared to 2012). So what is new with the 3D modes?
It also sounds like e-shift 3 is a variant of e-shift 2 (as the odd text changes not seen in e-shift 1 are still there), which supports a 4K input and auto-changes depending on input resolution to save you having to change the preset. It sounds like there is still a noise associated with e-shift but perhaps less obvious.
So really the push to upgrade is largely defined by how much extra the DI brings to the table compared to the 2013 models.
You know you already have the open invite out there from a couple days ago my friend(Geoff too)!
I think you sum it up nicely Jon but being I skipped last year I'm unable to comment on the added 3D features exclusive to the 57 (already there on the 56), but for anyone like Rich and I who's going two mod's up the differences IMO are fairly significant. To be completely honest as to my previous answer I might
have thought for a second or two I saw something "just" there in the opening scenes after rechecking, and so it may not have been completely devoid of ghosting but I was certainly left with the feeling it was primarily based on initial panel warming (or lack there of).
I'm surprised you didn't care for The Wolverine in 3D though; we quite enjoyed it even though there was nothing in your face per sea. I just enjoy any movie well done for 3D even if just for the added dimensionality it provides.
I'm planning on using Todd's list of troubled versions (I'm sure Jason is too; especially as I remember that lamp post scene he so well documented… that was Despicable Me... No?), and will report my findings. I would have a hard time believing they could completely eliminate ghosting with the panel speed limitations they've put on these chassis' but after that hard pencil stuff you exposed last year I would be real happy to have that gone for good (fingers crossed).
As to the noise associated to e-shift I'm not hearing that. What I was asking Jason and others about was if they heard a mechanical motor whine during the resolution change (I hear it every time!).