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post #1 of 19
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I have an Older PC in my Garage I use for Music, Factory Service manuals, PDF viewing, youtube, forums, etc. Stuff where you need a PC and Internet access while working in the garage type of stuff

The PC is an IBM Thinkcentre S50 with Intel Integrated graphics. According to the specs, theIntel 865M will do 1080P oitput to it's VGA connector. I only need to do 2D, no gaming.

I want to buy a 32" LG 32LN5310 that does 1080P and has 2 HDMI connectors.

I also have Directv in the Garage.

The issue I am up against is Analog VGA to Digital HDMI and how to do it, cheap and relatively high quality. Because I'm trying to use a TV as a PC Monitor I don't want too much artifact.

I can't put a PCI Video Card in the PC because the Power suply is too small -- 200w and cannot be upgraded.

So I'm looking to find a VGA to HDMI converter that will accept a 1080P VGA signal and take it to 1080P HDMI. It would be nice if there was no downscaling - upscaling. From my reading it seems some want to do a sownscale or upscale and then a convertion/upscale to the final output. In another words, some of these converters will not accept 1080P input.

I'm also assuming that USB to HDMI would tax an already barely acceptable processor on my PC, so that's why I'm looking at VGA -- HDMI

Any suggestions about what works well and is priced for a lower budget?
post #2 of 19
AMD HD6450 will give you 1080p over HDMI and work fine on 200W and cost about $15. That's by far your best option.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hi,
That one is PCI Express, I need PCI. All the lower end PCI cards I can find need 300w and up
post #4 of 19
The HD 5450 I recommended in the other thread should be fine on 200 Watt. You can check reviews for max power, and use the Thermaltake power calculator.
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Roussi View Post

The HD 5450 I recommended in the other thread should be fine on 200 Watt. You can check reviews for max power, and use the Thermaltake power calculator.

You guys must be Youngsters!

PCI Express isn't PCI.

I need PCI, wasn't real clear in my OP because I was asking about converters. But I may pursue an ATI 9200 which seems like it would work.
post #6 of 19
They make a PCI HD 5450

They spec 19.1 Watts TDP/ 6.5 watts idle
post #7 of 19
ATI 9200 has HDMI?
post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

They make a PCI HD 5450

They spec 19.1 Watts TDP/ 6.5 watts idle

That looks like a nice card but I don't have the juice for it.
Quote:
Minimum System Power requirement (W) 350W
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

ATI 9200 has HDMI?

It has DVI that can easily Go HDMI via cable.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post

It has DVI that can easily Go HDMI via cable.

ATI 9200 SE 28 Watts TDP.

Do you want sound?
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Andy_Steb View Post

ATI 9200 SE 28 Watts TDP.

Do you want sound?


Sound goes from the Onboard sound card to a receiver with Speakers

Where are you getting those power specs?

The 9200 may be less efficient at idle but use less while in use because of the greatly decreased capabilities compared to the other card.

ATI certainly made great strides with each Catalyst release in power efficiency. I like the specs on the HD 5450 except I can't risk it because the min PS recommendation is almost twice what I have. The power supply is proprietary of course in the little desktop.
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post

Sound goes from the Onboard sound card to a receiver with Speakers

Where are you getting those power specs?

The 9200 may be less efficient at idle but use less while in use because of the greatly decreased capabilities compared to the other card.

ATI certainly made great strides with each Catalyst release in power efficiency. I like the specs on the HD 5450 except I can't risk it because the min PS recommendation is almost twice what I have. The power supply is proprietary of course in the little desktop.

Newer architecture and smaller die size is why the HD5450 uses less power. Much like why a i3 will blow the socks off of you P4 and using less power to do it.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/48/radeon-9200-se.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/503/radeon-hd-5450.html

TDP is just how much heat it is designed to dissipate. It's not actual power consumption.

I will agree 200 watt power supply isn't much
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 
So I am looking at these 4 cards

Radeon 9200
Radeon 5450
Geforce 6200
Geforce 610

It seems it's Vogue to require high output PS requirements for some time now.

The PC is an IBM thinkcentre 8183 with 200w PS, P4, 512mb RAM, Single HD, and DVD drive

I won't be doing any 3D.

The hardest work that might be done would be Youtube. Rest of the time it would be low impact 2D.

Which would you go for?

Maybe I can get back some wattage if I can disable onboard graphics.
post #14 of 19
The power specs are usually BS. My 6450 is spec'd 300W, yet I've never seen my whole PC ever pull more than 50W. My PS is only 200W and easily runs my video card, a Ceton 4, and a couple of hard drives.

I'd go for the 5450.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm beginning to think they are doing this to deny warranty service to a "certain" extent.

If you look at the 5450 though, the TDP almost seems like a Typo it's so low. But after reading some tests on systems, it does seem it is really low, so I'm going with that one I think.


Thanks to all you cats who piped in here and showed me that card!

Especially Andy who lives in my old stomping grounds. I miss my friends in Covington and Abita.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post

I have an Older PC in my Garage I use for Music, Factory Service manuals, PDF viewing, youtube, forums, etc. Stuff where you need a PC and Internet access while working in the garage type of stuff

The PC is an IBM Thinkcentre S50 with Intel Integrated graphics. According to the specs, theIntel 865M will do 1080P oitput to it's VGA connector. I only need to do 2D, no gaming.

I want to buy a 32" LG 32LN5310 that does 1080P and has 2 HDMI connectors.

I also have Directv in the Garage.

The issue I am up against is Analog VGA to Digital HDMI and how to do it, cheap and relatively high quality. Because I'm trying to use a TV as a PC Monitor I don't want too much artifact.

I can't put a PCI Video Card in the PC because the Power suply is too small -- 200w and cannot be upgraded.

So I'm looking to find a VGA to HDMI converter that will accept a 1080P VGA signal and take it to 1080P HDMI. It would be nice if there was no downscaling - upscaling. From my reading it seems some want to do a sownscale or upscale and then a convertion/upscale to the final output. In another words, some of these converters will not accept 1080P input.

I'm also assuming that USB to HDMI would tax an already barely acceptable processor on my PC, so that's why I'm looking at VGA -- HDMI

Any suggestions about what works well and is priced for a lower budget?

If that particular TV does not have VGA input, get one that does. Problem solved.

Edit: VGA spec, I believe, maxes out at 2048x1536, so why not use VGA, even if it is Analog?
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
It's the deal on the TV and the PQ that is driving this.

This is being called the new Westy if that means anything to you. It's LED. It's $224 at best buy. I was going to have to spend around $199 for a 27". I was watching for the best deal over the Holiday buying system for a 27" and this came to me. People are buying 3 or 4 of theses and setitng them up in an eyefinity setup.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post

It's the deal on the TV and the PQ that is driving this.

This is being called the new Westy if that means anything to you. It's LED. It's $224 at best buy. I was going to have to spend around $199 for a 27". I was watching for the best deal over the Holiday buying system for a 27" and this came to me. People are buying 3 or 4 of theses and setitng them up in an eyefinity setup.

It's in the GARAGE! Who cares what quality it is. It is not like you are using it for main TV. It will get dusty, covered up with dirt and grime from the air tools, etc...

Per your own post:
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Originally Posted by les_garten View Post

I use for Music, Factory Service manuals, PDF viewing, youtube, forums, etc. Stuff where you need a PC and Internet access while working in the garage type of stuff
post #19 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by blueiedgod View Post

It's in the GARAGE! Who cares what quality it is. It is not like you are using it for main TV. It will get dusty, covered up with dirt and grime from the air tools, etc...

Per your own post:

Well the quality does matter when you are trying to look at technical drawings or use it as a computer monitor trying to read text.

The point is that people who used this as a monitor had a good experience and it is only $25 more than the monitors I was looking at. Most TV's make bad monitors, apparently this one does pretty well, that's why it is being called the new Westy.
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