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post #121 of 207
If you're worried what's coming out in the future, you'll never buy anything.
post #122 of 207
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

If you're worried what's coming out in the future, you'll never buy anything.

Indeed, the only time to worry about the future is when CES is just around the corner. Other than that don't count on anything that seems to be coming soon. Some people have been waiting on a new tech to replace Plasma and LCD for 10 years...
post #123 of 207
Well, OLED is the unicorn of display technology. It's been talked about since a decade ago and 10 years later they still can't produce them in any decent quantity and they still have problem with the blue OLED.
post #124 of 207
I have another request for CES, check in with Sony and see if they are going to continue with their low lag LCDs. Their 70r550 is probably the best large gaming display in existance and it would be great to know how they plan to build on that legacy.
post #125 of 207
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I have another request for CES, check in with Sony and see if they are going to continue with their low lag LCDs. Their 70r550 is probably the best large gaming display in existance and it would be great to know how they plan to build on that legacy.

That's a good point!
post #126 of 207
In the C|NET review of the R520/R550, input lag is 31.9ms in Game Mode.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-70r550a/4505-6482_7-35661322-2.html


The number one in this area is W802A with its 16.9 input lag in game mode (according C|NET)
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57589240-221/best-low-lag-hdtvs-for-serious-gamers/
post #127 of 207
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Originally Posted by 8mile13 View Post

In the C|NET review of the R520/R550, input lag is 31.9ms in Game Mode.
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sony-kdl-70r550a/4505-6482_7-35661322-2.html


The number one in this area is W802A with its 16.9 input lag in game mode (according C|NET)
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57589240-221/best-low-lag-hdtvs-for-serious-gamers/

My mistake, the Sony 65w850 is the best large screen HDTV for gaming. (55" is just too small these days...) I guess the input lag numbers I read a few months ago for the 70r550 were wrong.

Hopefully Sony can put out a few 80" or larger models with a sub 20ms of input lag.
post #128 of 207
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Hey Mark...did Scott Wilkinson get replaced by Dan Wilkinson? biggrin.gif

Nope! :D

post #129 of 207
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No way! Dan doesn't have the cool clocks in the background of the HTG episodes like Scott does biggrin.gif I still can't figure out what time it is confused.gif

Thanks for noticing the clocks in my background set! They are meant as a challenge to see if you can figure out how to read them. ;)

post #130 of 207
Mark - Scott, CES press conferences will be this Monday, will we have a same day update on what's coming out this year for OLED?
post #131 of 207
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Thanks for noticing the clocks in my background set! They are meant as a challenge to see if you can figure out how to read them. wink.gif



My New Years resolution is figuring out those cool clocks biggrin.gif
post #132 of 207
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Mark - Scott, CES press conferences will be this Monday, will we have a same day update on what's coming out this year for OLED?

The plan is to publish posts on the same day that we get the news.
post #133 of 207
I would like to see details on any new Harman Kardon AVRs.
Edited by Harmon Fan - 1/2/14 at 9:29am
post #134 of 207
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I don't want to go all Justice-Scalia-on-Webster's-Third***

Like I said, people who shun the word likely do not understand what it means.

You obviously didn't understand the "Scalia-on-Websters-Third" reference.

Please see MCI v. AT&T, 512 U.S. 218 (1994), n.3 (at 228)
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Thanks imagic. I really look forward to your (and Dan Wilkinson's) impressions of the show. Including all things audio.

Hey Mark...did Scott Wilkinson get replaced by Dan Wilkinson? biggrin.gif

Way to pour salt on the many wounds of a long-suffering Washington football fan!

But better Wilkinson than, say Jeff George, Steve Spurrier, or Albert Haynesworth, I guess. I know, stay medium.
post #135 of 207
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I don't want to go all Justice-Scalia-on-Webster's-Third***

Like I said, people who shun the word likely do not understand what it means.

You obviously didn't understand the "Scalia-on-Websters-Third" reference.

Please see MCI v. AT&T, 512 U.S. 218 (1994), n.3 (at 228)

"Modify" has multiple entries in the dictionary, which leads to the multiple possible interpretations of its meaning. "Audiophile" only has one entry and therefore one (formal) definition.
post #136 of 207
How about another AVSforum CES gathering??????
post #137 of 207
What I really want to see is production ready 4k OLED UHDTVs. Last year, Sony and Panasonic only demo'ed prototypes. Hopefully, we'll see like 10 or more companies having them on display this year.
post #138 of 207
Please report on any new WISA speakers / products, with estimated retail prices and availability if possible!

I'm in the market for some this year, but B&O is not my cup of tea.

Also, if anyone sees BenQ at a booth, ask them if they'd consider putting an NVidia G-Sync chip into one of their DLP projectors! They're apparently going to do it with their LCDs sometime after ASUS. And hopefully with HDMI 2.0 for 1080p / 120hz 3D (or 144hz, even better). That would be the ultimate gaming dream for me. Perfect smoothness.

Of course 4K and lasers would be great too, but I'm not holding my breath for any decent refresh rates in UHD 3D (unless they adopt DP 1.3, which would be another good idea to bypass HDMI 2.0 B/W limitations).

Dream tech for me would be a PJ with those specs, with an HDMI-based Wisa transmitter with Dolby Atmos and all the other codecs that doesn't add any extra lag to the video signal.
post #139 of 207
A solid 1080p DLP LED front projector for under $1500.
post #140 of 207
With the panasonic S60's out of stock I am hoping Samsung will decrease their input lag on their plasma tv's for next year.
post #141 of 207
  • Competition in the 4K projector arena...hopefully to kick the price decrease train into motion...
  • Even better...Affordable SUPER LARGE 4K TV's to eliminate the need for projectors
  • An 11 channel AVR with at least 200 watts per channel on ALL channels to allow for an 11.2 setup without an external amp
post #142 of 207
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Realistic way to incorporate dolby atmos into the home

Yes.
post #143 of 207
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Originally Posted by Romans828 View Post

  • Competition in the 4K projector arena...hopefully to kick the price decrease train into motion...
  • Even better...Affordable SUPER LARGE 4K TV's to eliminate the need for projectors
  • An 11 channel AVR with at least 200 watts per channel on ALL channels to allow for an 11.2 setup without an external amp

The only display tech I see as superior to a projector in terms of versatility, flexibility of placement, ease of transport, and image size is a roll-down screen, and those are coming, eventually, however projectors are also getting smaller (pico) and will even be built into cellphones eventually, alongside the new 3D camera tech in every iPhone 6 since Apple bought the company that makes Kinect for $345 M USD and shareholders expect that kind of money spent to bear fruit. In short, I see 1080p / UHD (eventually) projectors with lasers in every phone, as a much more realistic expectation than roll-down OLED in the near future.

I'm with you about 11.1, but not via receivers. WISA all the way man, with some speakers like the rear height ones having good batteries that can recharge wirelessly as well. That would be truly epic. Atmos 100% wireless that bypasses HDMI + receivers / pre-processors completely and comes straight out of your source player.
post #144 of 207
If only Black Diamond wasn't so expensive, every screen in my home would probably get the projection treatment. My theater build got a lot more expensive when I saw their demo videos.
post #145 of 207
A decent 1080P LED projector at a decent price for the common man with higher lumens.
Including ? while taking the lead from Vivitek with their Qumi 7 and do it at a decent price ? a LED projector with a zoom, glass lens.
Also ? can they put in a 1080P chip with 3D ? come on guys really ? the PF80G with no 3D ? this is 2014.

Hey Scott Wilkinson ? let us know when the LED 1080P decently priced projector finally hits the big time CES.
LG almost had it there back in Aug with their PF80G and I'll say almost.
What a disappointment.
As far as we are concerned here in the USA the LG PF80G is just Vaporware/ Projectorware, come on guys ? really ?
post #146 of 207
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Originally Posted by GotHDTV? View Post

How about another AVSforum CES gathering??????

I concur. Had a lot of fun two years ago.
post #147 of 207
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Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

A decent 1080P LED projector at a decent price for the common man with higher lumens.
Including ? while taking the lead from Vivitek with their Qumi 7 and do it at a decent price ?
Well then you'd have to change your screen name.
post #148 of 207
Avsforum thread reads are one of the better sources of entertainment.
post #149 of 207
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I'd like to see some high-end pre/pros that are modular and can be updated in the future without having to replace it.

This has been done before, remember 14 years ago? One of the first ones, Onkyo 989 at $3k back then.

Problem is, "we don't know what we don't know", so future std's are kinda hard to really protect for.....

http://www.audioholics.com/av-receiver-reviews/onkyo-tx-ds989-receiver-first-look
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Future Proof interface Architecture- a versatile RS232 port allows the TX-DS989s powerful 4mb flash memory to be directly computer accessed for installing such future upgrades as new DSP algorithms, new surround formats/parameters, and other types of processing updates.

post #150 of 207
how about TVs that are already calibrated, they already have "store" and "home" modes; the "home"
mode should be calibrated out of the box
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