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ota hd recording from pc to blu ray............need help please

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I have recorded a couple of hd ota broadcasts on my pc & now would like to create a blu ray dvd of these recordings? Is this possible? I have an external blu ray burner that came with Cyberlink burning software.

Any and all help greatly appreciated
post #2 of 20
What format are these recordings in? How large are they?

Must the result be Blu-ray video, or would a media file version like MKV burned to Blu-ray disc be acceptable?

-Bill
post #3 of 20
Assuming these are MPEG2 transport stream files (.ts extension) then you can do this using tsmuxer and imgburn, I just did this with a couple of college basketball games I wanted to send a friend. Use tsmuxer to create the blu-ray file structure from the TS file and then imgburn to burn the disc
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
OK these are the types of things that I need to learn because at this point I do not know how to answer either of these questions.

how do I determine what type of files I have recorded?
what are the steps to use tsmuxer to create the Blu-ray structure
I think that I would prefer the blu ray version since they are recorded in HD
I would like to be able to watch the end recording on my Blu-ray dvd player on my hd tv
post #5 of 20
What is the file extension of one of the files?

For more: there is a free utility called "mediainfo" which will give you a lot of details on your files.

Download tsmuxer and try it. It's easier to see how it works than explain it.

-Bill
post #6 of 20
What I do is very simple, but it requires VideoReDo which is used first to edit-out commercials. Then you export the video as Elementary Streams, use tsMuxeR to make a Blu-ray structure, then burn with ImgBurn.

Your process may be even simpler if you can just drag & drop your files onto tsMuxeR, but I have never tried that and suspect tsMuxeR would have a lot of trouble at the commercial breaks given these will typically have different audio and video parameters.
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by JDLIVE View Post

Assuming these are MPEG2 transport stream files (.ts extension) then you can do this using tsmuxer and imgburn, I just did this with a couple of college basketball games I wanted to send a friend. Use tsmuxer to create the blu-ray file structure from the TS file and then imgburn to burn the disc
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

What I do is very simple, but it requires VideoReDo which is used first to edit-out commercials. Then you export the video as Elementary Streams, use tsMuxeR to make a Blu-ray structure, then burn with ImgBurn...


This is very interesting information. Does anyone know how tsMuxeR handles multiple files, say dropping in several HD eps. of a TV show? Will it create a multi-title BD structure, or would it append them into a single title? Thanks.
post #8 of 20
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Originally Posted by bnewt View Post

OK these are the types of things that I need to learn because at this point I do not know how to answer either of these questions.

how do I determine what type of files I have recorded?
what are the steps to use tsmuxer to create the Blu-ray structure
I think that I would prefer the blu ray version since they are recorded in HD
I would like to be able to watch the end recording on my Blu-ray dvd player on my hd tv

Here's a screen shot of tsmuxer:



So you'd just click 'add' in the upper right and locate your recording file. You should then see the audio/video tracks populated in the middle section. Click on 'blu-ray folder' in the output type and tell it where you want the folders to be created. Then click on 'start muxing', that's it.


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Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post


This is very interesting information. Does anyone know how tsMuxeR handles multiple files, say dropping in several HD eps. of a TV show? Will it create a multi-title BD structure, or would it append them into a single title? Thanks.

When I tried adding multiple files it just tried to mux them into one new title. I've done a little looking for a basic authoring tool to be able to do multiple titles on one disk but haven't found anything yet. Haven't really spent much time researching it, though.
post #9 of 20
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

Your process may be even simpler if you can just drag & drop your files onto tsMuxeR, but I have never tried that and suspect tsMuxeR would have a lot of trouble at the commercial breaks given these will typically have different audio and video parameters.

That would never happen. In order for commercials to have a different video resolution or a different audio channel layout, the broadcaster would need to stop transmitting for a moment to start sending a new stream with different parameters. Doing that would cause every viewer to experience a momentary blackout where the station was off the air, which would cause massive confusion and complaints. This is why stations always telecine 24 fps prime-time dramas to 30 fps, because doing so allows them to transmit film content in the same video stream used for newscasts and other non-film content.
post #10 of 20
For some reason I feel like I've noticed commercials in AC3 2.0 versus the main program in 5.1, but I could certainly be mistaken.

I've never made a bluray disc this way but if I were going to using Video Redo to clip out commericals and the beginnings or endings of a program would be my first step (I have made DVDs this way for people). I'd save the otherwise unaltered MPEG2 video and AC3 audio into something like a .ts file and then open it in tsmuxer as suggested.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by pittsoccer33 View Post

I've never made a bluray disc this way but if I were going to using Video Redo to clip out commericals and the beginnings or endings of a program would be my first step (I have made DVDs this way for people). I'd save the otherwise unaltered MPEG2 video and AC3 audio into something like a .ts file and then open it in tsmuxer as suggested.

Yep, that's exactly the process I used.

I do recall having some issues at one point where VRD would complain about the video resolution changing during some commercial breaks, but IIRC that was an application problem that VRD eventually fixed, not an actual problem with the captured video file.
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by pittsoccer33 View Post

For some reason I feel like I've noticed commercials in AC3 2.0 versus the main program in 5.1, but I could certainly be mistaken.

That's certainly possible, but the stereo is simply mixed into the front LR channels, while the surrounds contain silence. The stream is still DD 5.1, though.
post #13 of 20
Thread Starter 
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What is the file extension of one of the files?

For more: there is a free utility called "mediainfo" which will give you a lot of details on your files.

Download tsmuxer and try it. It's easier to see how it works than explain it.

-Bill


the recordings were made by Windows Media Center............the file extension is .wtv

as previously stated.......my goal is to create a blu ray dvd that can be viewed by others in a stand alone blu ray player. I want to keep the dolby 5.1 sound track as well

what is my next step.........us tsmuxer or VideoRedo (it would be great to remove the commercials)
is there a step by step guide that I can download for "dummies"
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
What is the file extension of one of the files?

For more: there is a free utility called "mediainfo" which will give you a lot of details on your files.

Download tsmuxer and try it. It's easier to see how it works than explain it.

-Bill


the recordings were made by Windows Media Center............the file extension is .wtv

as previously stated.......my goal is to create a blu ray dvd that can be viewed by others in a stand alone blu ray player. I want to keep the dolby 5.1 sound track as well

what is my next step.........us tsmuxer or VideoRedo (it would be great to remove the commercials)
is there a step by step guide that I can download for "dummies"
post #15 of 20
heres an episode of Marvel Agents of Shield. I opened the .wtv file (which contains bluray ready mpeg2 video and ac3 audio) and then ran the ad detective scan. each vertical red line is a potential commercial. when it sees enough vertical red lines together it assumes its a commercial block.

post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by Vlad Theimpaler View Post


This is very interesting information. Does anyone know how tsMuxeR handles multiple files, say dropping in several HD eps. of a TV show? Will it create a multi-title BD structure, or would it append them into a single title? Thanks.

FYI, this guide shows how to create a multi track BD. Have to demux the files to elementary streams, but it does work.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by bnewt View Post

the recordings were made by Windows Media Center............the file extension is .wtv

as previously stated.......my goal is to create a blu ray dvd that can be viewed by others in a stand alone blu ray player. I want to keep the dolby 5.1 sound track as well

what is my next step.........us tsmuxer or VideoRedo (it would be great to remove the commercials)
is there a step by step guide that I can download for "dummies"
tsMuxeR by itself won't do it, you need VideoReDo to remove commercials (which have different video/audio characteristices tsMuxeR wouldn't like). You can remove commercials "by hand" or as pittsoccer33 has shown it has an automatic detection feature also (which I have never used).

You will need to learn VRD but it's relatively easy compared to any other methods. When you get the commercials edited-out, you just export as Elementary Streams and then use tsMuxeR to make a Blu-ray.
post #18 of 20
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Originally Posted by Laserfan View Post

You can remove commercials "by hand" or as pittsoccer33 has shown it has an automatic detection feature also (which I have never used).

I do both. I run the auto scan to show me where the commercials likely are, and then I do a quick double check manually. What [it seems like] it looks for is a frame or several frames of blackness - thats how it determines the start of a new "segment." Enough short segments in a row = a commercial break that it defines as a cut. But if the show runs right into the commercial with no black frame buffer between the two it won't know to start the commercial break. It will include some in the cut. A dark scene in a program can also throw a wrench into the auto scan.

Some channels are easier than others. I'd say for most channels its about 95% accurate. For others its closer to 75%. Still, having the auto scan run though it first shows you were you need to look for beginnings and ends.
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
had no idea this would be that complicated...........
just wanted to record some basketball games in hd on my computer & create a blu ray disc that my parents could watch when they missed a particular game:eek:
post #20 of 20
Not really that complex, just a bit of a learning curve....
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