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post #91 of 769
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

It happened more often that you thought on various app stores. It could be pulled due to legal reasons or the company simply want to force you upgrade to newer version etc. The point is with physical media, you know you can always go back to the disc. With downloads, there is no guarantees even if you made a complete backup. We often upgrade computers. With the new PC, your old backup is useless.

That's the beauty of a Mac -- Time Machine backs up applications. When you migrate to a new computer you don't have to reinstall anything.
post #92 of 769
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Still dual output setups is the minority. Most people will not use that feature. And it adds more expense to the player.

Not that much cost actually. My secondary monitor is:
  • Samsung UE22F5000AK or,
  • Samsung UN22F5000AF (equivalent for North American use)

......each are relatively cheap and it's actually used for other equally mundane purposes as well as for SA-CD track information. It's a quality monitor, as well.

I quite like my Panasonic 50GT50 plasma display. Subjecting it to this kind of use is actually abusive; any resultant damage probably not covered by warranty.
post #93 of 769
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I'd argue that the A/V industry has long hindered the acceptance of new technology by trying to make every piece of hardware backwards compatible. It's amazing how long they've continued to service people who cling to analog outputs (no offense to anyone here).

For example, by removing optical drives from its computers, Apple is helping to speed up the acceptance of buying software via download (as opposed to buying it on CD/DVD). Of course they have selfish reasons for doing this -- driving traffic to the app store -- but there are a lot of people who never buy software this way unless forced because they refuse to believe that if your hard drive gets wiped, you can redownload purchased programs.
I completely agree.

People getting caught up in optical vs. digital missed that excellent point. One of the best ways to get people to adopt new technology is to phase out the old. If you wanted The Matrix at home, for example, you had to buy the DVD. Same with HDTV. After 2008, if you wanted to buy a new TV, it was HDTV or nothing.

For that matter, same goes for BD players (along with PS4 and X1) phasing out composite video. Granted, they had to because of new agreements in the industry, but it was a smart/correct move, regardless. I mean, you would be surprised by the amount of people out there, even those with HDTV, who use composite video to connect BD player (or game console) to the TV because it was the default connection in the box. Now, mistakes like that cannot be made, and everyone will have to use HDMI going forward.

It's also why phase out of analog cable was a plus. By doing so, it allowed cable companies to add more HD channels and increase broadband speeds.

And it's why the move to 4K will also be a positive move, whether or not resolution difference is noticeable with average household screen sizes. Providers will need more bandwidth for 4K, and one of the first things they will probably do to gain some of that bandwidth is to phase out SD channels, which means more HD for everyone.
post #94 of 769
Thread Starter 
The Bdp-s6200 is now in stock and available for purchase at sony.com (USA)
post #95 of 769
Are there alot more streaming apps with these new players?

Do they have a list somewhere of all 200 apps?
post #96 of 769
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Are there alot more streaming apps with these new players?

Do they have a list somewhere of all 200 apps?

Not that I can find. If there are some specific apps you are curious about, I can check when mine is delivered.
post #97 of 769
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Are there alot more streaming apps with these new players?

Do they have a list somewhere of all 200 apps?

I dont think so. They count all the junk in the Opera TV store. Thats how they get the app count up on the cheap.
post #98 of 769

Really want to know about FLAC support on these models, concerning:

 

  • Album Art (embedded or external)
  • Gapless playback

 

If one of you get hold of one unit, please test it for us!

post #99 of 769
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Originally Posted by kraftytwo View Post

Really want to know about FLAC support on these models, concerning:
  • Album Art (embedded or external)
  • Gapless playback

If one of you get hold of one unit, please test it for us!

I use the Apple Lossless format and beam everything around using AirPlay. Someone else will have to test the FLAC capabilities.
post #100 of 769
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I use the Apple Lossless format and beam everything around using AirPlay. Someone else will have to test the FLAC capabilities.

 

If I prepare 2 flac files for your pendrive, would you be able to test it for me.

I will embbed album art and provide two gapless files.

I can upload them on mediafire.

post #101 of 769
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Originally Posted by kraftytwo View Post

If I prepare 2 flac files for your pendrive, would you be able to test it for me.
I will embbed album art and provide two gapless files.
I can upload them on mediafire.

Unless someone beats me to it, I will give it a try. I got my shipping email today, so it is on its way...
post #102 of 769
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Unless someone beats me to it, I will give it a try. I got my shipping email today, so it is on its way...

I have sent you a PM with the files.

post #103 of 769
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Originally Posted by kraftytwo View Post

I have sent you a PM with the files.

Cool. I will let you know when I get the player.
post #104 of 769
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Originally Posted by Nickff View Post

Cool. I will let you know when I get the player.

Great. Have you previously owned a Sony BDP or is this your first?
post #105 of 769
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

Great. Have you previously owned a Sony BDP or is this your first?

The 6200 will be replacing a bdp-s350.
post #106 of 769
ive got the 5100 and the 6200 will be here tomorrow.
post #107 of 769

marctronixx, i have sent you a PM

post #108 of 769
Eagle just dropped off the gadget. Be aware of Sony doesn't ship it in a shipping box. It's shipped in its own box.

At the opening of the box, there is a last minute addendum that encourages you to update to add the mirroring function.
post #109 of 769
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^ Looking forward to your review .... Yes sony.com don't double box I'm afraid.
post #110 of 769
Out of the box, this unit feels cheaper in build quality over the 5100. Feels like there is nothing in there.

as mentioned, they added this piece of paper telling you about the update. you can tell someone opened up the box AFTER it was sealed. wink.gif

I use the faster method of start up from OFF, and the 6200 is noticeably faster at starting up than the 5100.

as mentioned, out of the box there was an update. from .49 to .71 if memory serves. update (Ethernet) was downloaded and installed in under 5 minutes.

@krafty, I installed the files on my drive connected to my EA6900 router. the files are recognized by the sony player as FLAC files, but when I attempt to play them, it says file is corrupted or music not supported. also, it does not show the album artwork.

EDIT: I plugged the USB drive directly to the front panel containing the audio files and it played them nicely. in the manual is states this type of file will not play across DLNA servers.

there is no gapless playback nor does the artwork show up. this is with the thumb drive in the front usb slot. (there are two usb ports, one in back and one in front). the door cover for the front usb port is super cheap and flimsy.

SBM is indeed on the device.

it plays mpeg and mp4 files i have on that drive nicely.

remote is smaller and uses AAA batteries.

conventional DVD load up times are also faster over the 5100, as well as blu ray discs i randomly put in.

EDIT: vudu, amazon stream are not supported on this unit. the new netflix UI is on this unit and it looks good.

EDIT: media remote app is not supported on this device but TV sideview app works.
Edited by marctronixx - 1/30/14 at 1:17am
post #111 of 769
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Originally Posted by marctronixx View Post

Out of the box, this unit feels cheaper in build quality over the 5100. Feels like there is nothing in there.

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Looks like Sony is keeping their practice cheapen each generation progressively!!
post #112 of 769
agree. the 790 was solidly built over the 5100 and now the 6200.
post #113 of 769
I'm guessing that Vudu and Amazon is coming later?
post #114 of 769
So, what about a report on the PQ and AQ for those who don't care for streaming and playing files?
post #115 of 769

marctronixx,

 

Many thanks for your effort in testing the files.

What a disappointment Sony won't improve FLAC support!

But I guess this is the same with all players out there.

 

Last Sony product I owned was a DVP-NS53P and I remember the hardware very well constructed and robust.

I saw the BDP-S1100 in the store and I was shocked how cheap it looked like.

Anyways, I'm still thinking in getting either S3100 or S4100, or even a Samsung F6500.

post #116 of 769
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Thanks for the early review. The full user manual is now available at sony esupport.

I noticed ip noise reduction pro setting has moved to video settings rather than under options during file playback

It's also got a new music enhancement setting too.

Could you comment on the general XMB user interface? Is it identical to before ? Folks always complained the GUI looked fuzzy since it wasn't rendered in 1080.

Is the SEN portal still there ?

Very surprised that amazon and vudu are not available .... But that might not be a bad thing .Maybe they are working on a new app?
post #117 of 769
Yes the current Amazon app is terrible. That is the one app I avoid on my S5100s.
post #118 of 769
I have a S6200 on the way and we use Vudu to stream movies from time to time. I checked with Sony Tech Support and they insisted that Vudu was available on the S6200. I guess I will wait and see.

I would like to know what other services people use that can stream movies in 1080p.
post #119 of 769
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Originally Posted by marctronixx View Post

Out of the box, this unit feels cheaper in build quality over the 5100. Feels like there is nothing in there.

as mentioned, they added this piece of paper telling you about the update. you can tell someone opened up the box AFTER it was sealed. wink.gif

I use the faster method of start up from OFF, and the 6200 is noticeably faster at starting up than the 5100.

as mentioned, out of the box there was an update. from .49 to .71 if memory serves. update (Ethernet) was downloaded and installed in under 5 minutes.

@krafty, I installed the files on my drive connected to my EA6900 router. the files are recognized by the sony player as FLAC files, but when I attempt to play them, it says file is corrupted or music not supported. also, it does not show the album artwork.

EDIT: I plugged the USB drive directly to the front panel containing the audio files and it played them nicely. in the manual is states this type of file will not play across DLNA servers.

there is no gapless playback nor does the artwork show up. this is with the thumb drive in the front usb slot. (there are two usb ports, one in back and one in front). the door cover for the front usb port is super cheap and flimsy.

SBM is indeed on the device.

it plays mpeg and mp4 files i have on that drive nicely.

remote is smaller and uses AAA batteries.

conventional DVD load up times are also faster over the 5100, as well as blu ray discs i randomly put in.

EDIT: vudu, amazon stream are not supported on this unit. the new netflix UI is on this unit and it looks good.

EDIT: media remote app is not supported on this device but TV sideview app works.

Thanks for the review. smile.gif

Glad to see SBM has finally returned, but pity that machine doesn't support gapless FLAC playback. Glad that AVR does, however.

I can see one of these or the S7200 in my kit quite soon, but need to get a multi-region version of it.

BTW, the S5100 supports multi-channel FLAC via USB ports, is this support retained for the new models?
post #120 of 769
The vudu icon and Amazon icon are in the list at the home screen as usual, but when I clicked on them they both said "coming soon". Perhaps the unit is so new that it will take a bit of time for these companies to make their apps compatible.

The gui is clean and to my eyes it's rendered better than the 5100.I used to see noise in the" sunrise " backdrop (that blue streak of light on the xmb background) on the home screen on the 790 and the 5100,but not so on 6200.

Let me again say the start up time from power off is fantastic! Much faster over the 5100.

BD start up is also much faster. I don't use any of the video settings, I just don't like to turn on those gimmicks. Pq is just delicious.
Edited by marctronixx - 1/30/14 at 11:57am
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