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post #181 of 354
So glad my lil joke has brought joy to so many - and drier heads of hair.

You cheeky monkey you. wink.gif
post #182 of 354
Yes I read about it seem interesting but wait and see what the reviews are.
I wonder what the cost is for this projector ?
And does it match Panasonic's new niffty hair dryer and Sony's new $ 30,000 projector laser wall space heater ?
post #183 of 354
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

AFAIK there are no UHD OLEDS from either HiSense or TCL at the show. Are you sure you saw an Ultra-D demo? What you describe does not match my experience.
j

Sorry I couldn't meet up, but I only had two days for the show -- video at the convention center on one day and audio at the Venetian on the other. I would be happy to PM next week to describe my observations in detail.
Herb B
post #184 of 354
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

AFAIK there are no UHD OLEDS from either HiSense or TCL at the show. Are you sure you saw an Ultra-D demo? What you describe does not match my experience.
j

Sorry I couldn't meet up, but I only had two days for the show -- video at the convention center on one day and audio at the Venetian on the other. I would be happy to PM next week to describe my observations in detail.
Herb B

I'd rather have discussions in the open forum, no PM's please. Also, I suggest discussing the topic in this Ultra-D thread. Finally, here's a counter-point to your observation from a 3D expert.

post #185 of 354
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

I've got an invite to check it out this morning.

How was your impressions of the Vizio's "best TV in the world". On their site they are marketing that it will also replace projectors. Obviously this TV review will be interesting not only for panel forum people but also projector owner members. I hope they will sell monitor version so HT owners don't have to pay for the speaker and sub. Regardless what astronomical price tag this set will have initially in a year it will be around $5500. Today 80 inch Vizio is $3699 already. $45 per inch. Unbelievable. 2 years ago 80 inch sets were ridiculously priced and 70 inch was $3699. I wonder now what will Sharp do to the overpriced 90 inch "largest TV in the world'' against Vizio's "best TV in the world". Right now it is $7,500 or $80 per inch. Let the price war begin in 90inch+ market.

Thanks for your CES coverage.
post #186 of 354
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Originally Posted by motogp34 View Post

any word on any sharp elites ???
Are you expecting any? Now that's real faith. wink.gif
post #187 of 354
^^
didn't Sharp discontinue the Elites?
post #188 of 354
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Originally Posted by DrA View Post

How was your impressions of the Vizio's "best TV in the world". On their site they are marketing that it will also replace projectors. Obviously this TV review will be interesting not only for panel forum people but also projector owner members. I hope they will sell monitor version so HT owners don't have to pay for the speaker and sub. Regardless what astronomical price tag this set will have initially in a year it will be around $5500. Today 80 inch Vizio is $3699 already. $45 per inch. Unbelievable. 2 years ago 80 inch sets were ridiculously priced and 70 inch was $3699. I wonder now what will Sharp do to the overpriced 90 inch "largest TV in the world'' against Vizio's "best TV in the world". Right now it is $7,500 or $80 per inch. Let the price war begin in 90inch+ market.

Thanks for your CES coverage.

second your post. impressions of the 120" would be most welcome smile.gif also, how does it compare to the OLED's?
Edited by ss9001 - 1/9/14 at 6:21am
post #189 of 354
Anything from DirectTV this year?
post #190 of 354
Question: With these new 4K televisions, if the feed in to the TV is your output signal from your cable box, does the signal get interpolated in to a "fake 4 K" signal which would appear better than the normal picture that I get on my Pioneer Elite screen today? All of the web sites say they up-res the signal but I wonder what the end quality of the picture will be like.
post #191 of 354
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Question: With these new 4K televisions, if the feed in to the TV is your output signal from your cable box, does the signal get interpolated in to a "fake 4 K" signal which would appear better than the normal picture that I get on my Pioneer Elite screen today? All of the web sites say they up-res the signal but I wonder what the end quality of the picture will be like.

That is the 1 million $ question.....How good is the up-conversion chip set in these new 4K (UHD) tv's? These sets will ALL have to take the incoming signal fed from your Sat/Cable box (1080i or 720P) or your BD player (1080P) and up-covert to the sets NATIVE resolution of (3840 X 2160) AKA 4K.
Netflix and some others have announced some 4k streaming content...... but we will see how good that really is. BTW you need a minimum of 15 mbps in your pipe line for it to even display a proper image.

Paul
post #192 of 354
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Originally Posted by DLPProjectorfan View Post

Have any projector manufactures introduced any new LED 1080P projectors at CES ?

Hope we have a winner this year as in a decent 1080P LED projector that even supersedes LG's PF80G and at a good price.

This is exactly the news i am looking for too. They have LED headlights in cars, no reason they can't have an LED light source with plenty of brightness.
post #193 of 354
can you run over to the Klipsch booth please?
post #194 of 354
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Anything from DirectTV this year?

The only thing I have heard from DirecTV is the price increase notice.
post #195 of 354
For DISH, this the year of the Joey. They announced three new models - Super Joey which adds 2additional tuners, Wireless Joey which lets you put your TV anywhere without digging into the wall for a coaxial cable, and Virtual Joey which is an app that runs on TVs (LG was mentioned specifically) that eliminates the Joey box entirely and moves the functionality into the set itself.
Herb B
post #196 of 354
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any word on any sharp elites ???
Are you expecting any? Now that's real faith. wink.gif

 

AFAICT, that business of the sharp elites possibly coming back was just a conversational quirk in the forum.  I never read anything about it in the press, only read about Sharp looking to dump the branding (or words to that effect), and I'm not sure why anyone would ever think there was anything solid to it.

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post #198 of 354
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Originally Posted by DrA View Post

How was your impressions of the Vizio's "best TV in the world". On their site they are marketing that it will also replace projectors. Obviously this TV review will be interesting not only for panel forum people but also projector owner members. I hope they will sell monitor version so HT owners don't have to pay for the speaker and sub. Regardless what astronomical price tag this set will have initially in a year it will be around $5500. Today 80 inch Vizio is $3699 already. $45 per inch. Unbelievable. 2 years ago 80 inch sets were ridiculously priced and 70 inch was $3699. I wonder now what will Sharp do to the overpriced 90 inch "largest TV in the world'' against Vizio's "best TV in the world". Right now it is $7,500 or $80 per inch. Let the price war begin in 90inch+ market.

Thanks for your CES coverage.

Isn't vizio getting their 70" and 80" panels from sharps 10g fab?
post #199 of 354
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Originally Posted by mr. wally View Post

Isn't vizio getting their 70" and 80" panels from sharps 10g fab?


I am thinking the same thing................
post #200 of 354
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Originally Posted by DrA View Post

How was your impressions of the Vizio's "best TV in the world". On their site they are marketing that it will also replace projectors. Obviously this TV review will be interesting not only for panel forum people but also projector owner members. I hope they will sell monitor version so HT owners don't have to pay for the speaker and sub. Regardless what astronomical price tag this set will have initially in a year it will be around $5500. Today 80 inch Vizio is $3699 already. $45 per inch. Unbelievable. 2 years ago 80 inch sets were ridiculously priced and 70 inch was $3699. I wonder now what will Sharp do to the overpriced 90 inch "largest TV in the world'' against Vizio's "best TV in the world". Right now it is $7,500 or $80 per inch. Let the price war begin in 90inch+ market.

Thanks for your CES coverage.

Mark is updating the first post in this thread as he goes through CES. The answer to your question is in a link he placed there, "Vizio 120" Reference Series UHDTV".
post #201 of 354
I have to say I am kind of surprised and disappointed in this CES so far. I thought there would be new speaker's from Paradigm (no Studio's for sure ... see their Facebook page) either Studio or Signature........no info on any new speaker's so far (just two new soundbars).

Then I thought there may be new top of the line receiver's from Onkyo, Denon etc and it looks like there is nothing......at least I can't find it on the net yet......and no one is reporting from their booth that I could see. I guess they just don't want to announce anything yet..probably at or before CEDIA though.
post #202 of 354
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Originally Posted by kendo70433 View Post

It should be possible. I bought one of these a year ago. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Computer/Computer+Drives/BDR-2208 It claims to be able to, though I haven't tried yet.

Fair enough...the link I looked at on the previously mentioned LG drive didn't mention BD XL. In fact, I (and most other people) forgot that format existed.
post #203 of 354
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Oye.  Great.  A black helicopter offramp for this thread.  You sound like a student activist.  Keep in mind that long before you run out of anything, the price for it goes up.  We won't "run out of rare minerals needed for these products" because as they become harder and harder to get, their value goes up, and pretty soon it becomes ever more valuable to recycle.  Or even mine landfills.  For instance, we will never "run out" of oil either, because the very last million barrels might be worth $1,000,000 each.  Nor will Manhattan "run out" of apartments.  You have to start with an understanding of economics to understand how products are formed and why.

You're right, there will never be the last of anything but the availability to most of the humans on this planet will, leaving it only to the richest who can afford it.
post #204 of 354
Where there no projectors or screens? That's the primary reason I come to your site... I never feel like you give these items much love.
post #205 of 354
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Where there no projectors or screens? That's the primary reason I come to your site... I never feel like you give these items much love.

You can't throw a dead cat without hitting someone who wants to talk about projectors or screens here on AVS. Look around. biggrin.gif

Sorry about that dead cat reference. I hope I didn't offend anyone who can't throw.
post #206 of 354
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Originally Posted by monitormaven View Post

For DISH, this the year of the Joey. They announced three new models - Super Joey which adds 2additional tuners, Wireless Joey which lets you put your TV anywhere without digging into the wall for a coaxial cable, and Virtual Joey which is an app that runs on TVs (LG was mentioned specifically) that eliminates the Joey box entirely and moves the functionality into the set itself.
Herb B

The Virtual Joey will also be an app available for download on the PS3 & PS4.
post #207 of 354
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Originally Posted by turls View Post

Would appreciate a report from the D-BOX booth, since they might be demoing or talking about an upgrade to their product to support HDMI--which would be the first major change on the consumer side in years.

Venetian, Lvl 2 - Bassano 2601, Bassano 2605

I second this. Any word from D-Box?
post #208 of 354
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You can't throw a dead cat without hitting someone who wants to talk about projectors or screens here on AVS. Look around. biggrin.gif

Sorry about that dead cat reference. I hope I didn't offend anyone who can't throw.

As one of the projector people who got hit by that cat, I for one am deeply offended. smile.gif

Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned that projectors tend to be announced in the fall. So, we cat targets might just be out of luck this month.
post #209 of 354
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As one of the projector people who got hit by that cat, I for one am deeply offended. smile.gif

Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned that projectors tend to be announced in the fall. So, we cat targets might just be out of luck this month.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

You can't throw a dead cat without hitting someone who wants to talk about projectors or screens here on AVS. Look around. biggrin.gif

Sorry about that dead cat reference. I hope I didn't offend anyone who can't throw.

No Offense Taken, I just don't understand why imagic (thread starter) couldn't include one item about projectors or screens in this thread about CES 2014. With 17 topics (UHDTVs, LCD TVs, OLED TVs, High Dynamic Range Displays, Glasses-Free 3D, Blu-ray Players, Media Servers, DVRs, Online Streaming, Video Processors, Receivers, Amps, and Processors, Speakers and Subwoofers & Miscellaneous) and 33 sub-topics, not one mention....
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Originally Posted by kendo70433 View Post


Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned that projectors tend to be announced in the fall. So, we cat targets might just be out of luck this month.

So maybe there really is nothing at CES for projector/screen news? Do companies like screen innovations, epson, panasonic, runco, etc. not have anything to show at CES?
Edited by Damon_DR - 1/9/14 at 3:41pm
post #210 of 354
I guess the highlight of the show is Panasonic blow dryer..........................
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