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post #31 of 47
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Just played with Plex on a pc. Nice looking but 90% of my files are in iso form. If they dont make any more media players i would have to convert all my files to mkvs. That would be a lot of converting.
post #32 of 47
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Originally Posted by bluewhale1 View Post

Just played with Plex on a pc. Nice looking but 90% of my files are in iso form. If they dont make any more media players i would have to convert all my files to mkvs. That would be a lot of converting.

That's what I did. Luckily, I didn't have that many ISOs. ISOs are becoming obsolete.
post #33 of 47
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That's what I did. Luckily, I didn't have that many ISOs. ISOs are becoming obsolete.

I know you mentioned Plex a couple of time so thats what made me try it out. For now im leaving everything as is. My Dune smarts work great for now. Ill get a new tv then see whats out this year. If we wind up lucky and the media players aren't dead ill get a new one. Maybe well get newer containers, also see where the HEVC stuff fits.

Are you mkv files encoded(handbrake) or lossless(MakeMkv)?
post #34 of 47
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Originally Posted by bluewhale1 View Post

I know you mentioned Plex a couple of time so thats what made me try it out. For now im leaving everything as is. My Dune smarts work great for now. Ill get a new tv then see whats out this year. If we wind up lucky and the media players aren't dead ill get a new one. Maybe well get newer containers, also see where the HEVC stuff fits.

Are you mkv files encoded(handbrake) or lossless(MakeMkv)?

I too have a Dune Smart Series D1, and I had about 5 movies (Star Wars for example) in ISO form, and some of them took forever to load. 2 of them wouldn't load at all. Then I moved to M2TS format via ClownBD, and now I use strictly MKV. All of my MKV as lossless. I use MakeMKV, and if by some reason or another MakeMKV won't can't rip the movie, then I use ClownBD to rip to folder structure. I then use MergeMKV + the MPLS file made by ClownBD to make a MKV file. I use the MPLS file so I can keep the chapters option.
post #35 of 47
I would never..ever..use Plex.

Why? No support for HD audio. None.

Yes, I'm THAT picky. To me, blu-ray is both HD video and HD audio. Taking out half of the equation means it isn't truly blu-ray to me.

That's why I'll stick with the Dune players, as they seem to be the only ones capable of it. Everything else either doesn't support it, or down-mixes, which is unacceptable to me.
post #36 of 47
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Originally Posted by SilverBlade View Post

I would never..ever..use Plex.

Why? No support for HD audio. None.

Yes, I'm THAT picky. To me, blu-ray is both HD video and HD audio. Taking out half of the equation means it isn't truly blu-ray to me.

That's why I'll stick with the Dune players, as they seem to be the only ones capable of it. Everything else either doesn't support it, or down-mixes, which is unacceptable to me.

plex supports HD audio. its all up to the player. If you take your dune and install emplexer or a PCH with the plex app you get 100% native support that the box has with the exception of ISO files.

Only the cheaper roku/appltv things like that dont have HD audio support nor do they have it for anything native.
post #37 of 47
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Originally Posted by halfelite View Post

plex supports HD audio. its all up to the player. If you take your dune and install emplexer or a PCH with the plex app you get 100% native support that the box has with the exception of ISO files.

Only the cheaper roku/appltv things like that dont have HD audio support nor do they have it for anything native.

Yeah, it is up to the player. Most players that can use Plex, either can't or won't handle HD audio through Plex, such as the Roku. Some people think Plex is totally amazing, but it's the limitation of the player which leaves a lot to be desired.

But I stand by my statement. HD audio is a MUST for me. Any media player that can't use it, is simply a 'me too' instead of 'I'm innovating'
post #38 of 47
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Originally Posted by SilverBlade View Post

I would never..ever..use Plex.

Why? No support for HD audio. None.

Yes, I'm THAT picky. To me, blu-ray is both HD video and HD audio. Taking out half of the equation means it isn't truly blu-ray to me.

That's why I'll stick with the Dune players, as they seem to be the only ones capable of it. Everything else either doesn't support it, or down-mixes, which is unacceptable to me.

It isn't Plex, as everyone else said, it is up to your device to support HD sound. If your device doesn't support it then Plex will transcode on the fly!
post #39 of 47
Well you're wrong regarding HD audio and Plex, and more importantly, those people referring to it as "amazing" would be largely correct in doing so when you consider it within the context most use it for which is streaming over wifi to ios clients and the like. Please relay the other mainstream options for doing so? Horses for courses.

And HD audio is anything but "innovating'- it's a decade old now, and most are enlightened enough to know that there has yet to emanate any evidence that one can tell the difference between them and their lossless counterparts in level matched, blind, auditions. But we know, people just know it sounds better- just like lossless music vs 320 rips...especially when played back REALLY LOUD.

Go figure. rolleyes.gif

James
Edited by mastermaybe - 1/14/14 at 12:02pm
post #40 of 47
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Originally Posted by mastermaybe View Post

Well you're wrong regarding HD audio and Plex, and more importantly, those people referring to it as "amazing" would be largely correct in doing so when you consider it within the context most use it for which is streaming over wifi to ios clients and the like. Please relay the other mainstream options for doing so? Horses for courses.

And HD audio is anything but "innovating'- it's a decade old now, and most are enlightened enough to know that there has yet to emanate any evidence that one can tell the difference between them and their lossless counterparts in level matched, blind, auditions. But we know, people just know it sounds better- just like lossless music vs 320 rips...especially when played back REALLY LOUD.

Go figure. rolleyes.gif

James

placebo effect is real and it does make a difference towards ones viewing preference. No reason to bring in blind tests. if someone likes HD audio and they think it sounds better its enough to justify there reasoning.
post #41 of 47
You mean listening preference? "Preference"? No, there's not one that can be measured anyway and that's the imperative difference...it's getting too late in the game for the Don Quixote card, lol. Change the two around and show them it's not real (this preference) and then ask them of their opinion. wink.gif

There's an infinite number of good reasons to introduce substantiation - for rational human beings, anyway. Choosing to remain deluded and ignorant of fact- ultimately- leads to a much less satisfying existence in just about any vein of life- audio codecs much less than some, and more than others, to be sure.

I'm fairly well-read in the power (and lack thereof) of human perception and time and time again the majority of those imagining things as they aren't find it to be a less-satisfying way to live as opposed to subscribing to things the was they are- even if they need a bit of help sometimes. wink.gif

See the hundreds of "recovering" speaker wire, interconnect, and painted CD addicts right here on AVS. biggrin.gif Less money and time spent on things they thought (lol) were improving sound and more on what actually does. Definitely something to be said for a product/change with a real distinction that can be identified over one that cannot.

James
Edited by mastermaybe - 1/14/14 at 12:52pm
post #42 of 47
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

It isn't Plex, as everyone else said, it is up to your device to support HD sound. If your device doesn't support it then Plex will transcode on the fly!

Transcoding means an automatic loss in quality. Which is why I went with an HDI Dune Base 3.0 instead of using PS3 Media Server and my PS3. It would just somehow 'bother' me if I knew quality was being lost when I can avoid that...
post #43 of 47
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Originally Posted by denass View Post

Not a zilch in support with firmware in 9 months and still counting.
It looks like the media player business doesnt matter to them anymore.
They are saying fixes are coming for the Base Hd 3D but they have been saying that for 6 months.
They have dropped the ball bigtime.
If they cant fix the fairly new 3Dplayer what hope is there for a new model
Dune are dying a slow death but at their own hands.
I was a Dune diehard but not anymore.
CES they promise alot but usually lately dont deliver
I have been talking on facebook to them but no joy.
They are just upsetting their client base
post #44 of 47
Dune update firmware 13/12/13....hardly 9 months ago!
post #45 of 47
B6 firmware for the Dune Base 3D came out April 2013 --which by my calculations is 9 months ago
You quoted the firmware for the Zappiti player which had their B8 firmware come out then.
It isnt the Dune Base 3D
Edited by denass - 2/6/14 at 3:27am
post #46 of 47

http://dune-hd.com/eng/support/firmware_zone/37

 

Dune offiical website......nothing to do with Zappiti player.......I have a Dune smart D1 with the same updated firmware! 13/12/13...........

post #47 of 47
In December you would have received the b6 firmware which came out april last year.
You wouldnt have gotten the b8
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