Originally Posted by Stu03
That simply isn't true.
The pro FD's and KRP's are driven very differently from the tv's.
Tell me then when there wasn't the power restrictions years ago why ABL wasn't at the numbers you seem to think you know everything about ?
All you are doing is encouraging people to break their KURO's pure and simple buddy - thats what i remember.
So you have made a worldwide assumption of all KRP's based on two people who followed your ill informed information.
You have a service manual with all the warnings written by people who know a lot more about it than you or me do i suggest you read it again.
Have you seen the dozens and dozens of service menu settings - do you honestly think these are all driven exactly the same as the next.
How many times do i need to repeat myself - it doesn't dim on a white screen with AV presets or bright scenes unless contrast is at incorrect levels (clipping) anyway - why is that so difficult to grasp
That would be fixed with ISF modes in conjunction with ABL.
When CNET said that the F8500 and the KURO's were the only TV's they had tested able to hold brightness on a white screen were they lying in your opinion ?
Remembering that the Tv's have lower ABL defaults than the KRP's also.
This is getting silly - i will find the link tonight.
But one more thing - expert calibrators - when they do ISF day modes, one guy had ABL raised by ten - presumably to go with the higher contrast that doesn't clip - when they calibrators aren't working under power restrictions - then why are they not raising ABL to crazy numbers?
Probably because these don't need it presumably.
For u it doesnt matter maybe and u dont need it, But for me and pg its necessary for sure, Its only a matter of taste, I still cant understand how can u even compare a TV without a raised ABL to a non 1 even with all the ISF or contrast calibration, The TV just doesnt produce the efficient back light that it should produce, its a total difference of sky and earth.
I raised my ABL to 198 thanks to pg 3 days ago , and there is no any crash fr 3 days at all thx god , even in the whitest ski snow of eurosport, or even mask on opened for half hour, The krp can handle 198 ABL i guess i hope...
Before i did it i just suffered from the TV and didnt even wanna watch in it sometimes, even now im still suffering and its not enough for me but i afraid to destroy the TV
U need to understand that People who used to high ABL for years its really hard to go back [like me with a flatron CRT Sony or Toshiba screens, that u c for example an island with a pale blue sea shining and glowing and blinding [like i like
] that spills light all over ur bed and ur room and then u feel what is a real joy [again my taste and my point of view] of viewing even in the darkest room, compare to the very nice classic cinema picture of "videophiles people" very nice black no doubt, but for me looks too dark, old ,too dimmed and dead with "yellow white" that u even dont remember the movie u watched after an half hour because it doesnt burn the picture in your brain and ur memory to remember and remind it later like the shining glowing alive picture that gets burn in the mind.
Its just so frustrating that still there is no any option even in 2014 for a real good quality TV with a fair price, that u can enjoy [except of oled that so expansive and maybe f8500 but i still dont know to judge cause i didnt c them both in action] i mean for TV that produces very strong light that u can always dim if u want [because dim u can always do when the light's limit is high but raising abl is another case and another problem] but not those crappy leds like u said that maybe produces the best backlight shining picture but with all the judder, grainy fake picture, lines around moving objects"predator moves style", dripping light and viewing angle problem that i wanna almost throw up when im even watching in our 55es7000 in the living room ordinary cables and when i had the 50es6400 in my room and got rid of it after 3 weeks just couldnt stand the picture it looked so awful when objects starts to move even with the best "cpu picture smoother" on hd cables too and too grainy dry and fake look pic on hd from pc too.
I searched for the "electricity restrictions" that started few years ago that ur talking about, but couldnt find alot of info about that in the net and i really wanna know when it started? someone can tell me please?
I just wanna punish those guys [jk lol] who decided about it because they just DESTROYED all the joy and the pleasure of watching TV and, if they decided that we had electricity and power problems all over the world so why should we suffer from crappy dimmed plasmas or awful leds?!
Even the Samsung ps42q91 which i had for 5 years in my room was much brighter that time and then any plasma that i ever saw after her, and sometimes i really regret i gave it to my parents when i go to their room.
U know, I think sometimes that maybe the companies did it in purpose to sell more LEDS tvs around the world that time when the leds tvs came up , and they just wanted to make the plasma bankrupt or at least to be sold less, but still enjoy from the profit from both sides to those people who cant stand watching on leds TVs.
If they had such a power and electricity problems, instead of limit the ABL and create shxxxy dark dimmed plasmas, they should go and learn from the Iranians lo who already built 8 nuclear reactors to produce electricity instead of that crappy oil that they still use around the world, And at the same time they can even make our electricity's bill become cheaper either.
Stu thanks for telling me about my email problem, maybe i have a problem with anothers too because i dont receive mails sometimes and ill have to check it with my ISP later,
Thanks anyway but pg sent me the guide a week ago.Edited by Stookza - 2/16/14 at 12:06pm