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post #91 of 116
Looks like all you 3D guys are going to be happy...

In an interview with Scott Wilkinson of AVS, David Katzmaier says that Vizio will have 3D support on the 50 inch and up M-series, all the P-series and Reference sets.

Here is a direct link to that exchange...

30:43 into Home Theater Geeks 190: CES 2014 Wrap up


Katzmaier says in the interview - "take it from me, Brent and I know the guy and if anyone knows its that guy".

He sounds pretty sure of the about-face by Vizio on 3D support.
post #92 of 116
Ummmmmm

WOW
post #93 of 116
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by PeterNincompoop View Post

Looks like all you 3D guys are going to be happy...

In an interview with Scott Wilkinson of AVS, David Katzmaier says that Vizio will have 3D support on the 50 inch and up M-series, all the P-series and Reference sets.

Here is a direct link to that exchange...

30:43 into Home Theater Geeks 190: CES 2014 Wrap up


Katzmaier says in the interview - "take it from me, Brent and I know the guy and if anyone knows its that guy".

He sounds pretty sure of the about-face by Vizio on 3D support.

I already double-checked with Vizio. Katzmaier was mistaken.

Here is Vizio's statement:
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"VIZIO is committed to providing consumers with the greatest entertainment
experience using the latest technology in the most approachable and
intuitive way. While VIZIO will continue to have 3D-enabled products in the
market (2013 M-Series 50” and above), we will evaluate the long-term
strategy to reflect the needs of consumers."

Basically, no 2D in the 2014 E-series, M-series, P-series or Reference Series. If you want 3D, Vizio will continue to sell the edge-lit 2013 M-series at sizes larger than 50".

The main point is you cannot buy a backlit, full-array, 2014-model Vizio that also supports 3D.
post #94 of 116
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

I already double-checked with Vizio. Katzmaier was mistaken.

Figured there was probably some "whacky weed" being smoked here. Common sense says it is too late for any kind of change for the 2014
Models. Design/Specs/Firmware/Panels, etc. have been set in stone. A change of that sort would put production out to the 4th Qtr of this year
and destroy sales. I hope that this dies quickly here on AVS as we just are getting done with this "no 3D" complaining !!!
Gerry
post #95 of 116
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Originally Posted by J y E 4Ever View Post

Ummmmmm

WOW

The vast majority of news outlets reported the story accurately... from post# 89:

Quote:
Vizio announces its first consumer 4K TVs, kills all 3D support - The Verge

Vizio Brings 4K to the Masses, Ditches 3D - IGN

Vizio reveals aggressively priced consumer 4K TVs, drops all 3D support - Techspot

Vizio Drops 3D from 2014 TV Lineup, Teams with Netflix on Ultra HD - Variety

3D TV Is Dead - The Wire

CES 2014 Is Turning Into A Funeral For 3D - (also) Techspot

Actually, Vizio hasn’t given up on 3D TVs, but on 3D glasses - Yahoo Finance

Vizio is First TV Brand to Ditch 3D on Its 2014 1080p & 4K TVs - HDTVtest

Edited by imagic - 1/19/14 at 6:19am
post #96 of 116
So this thread is pretty much a mutual commiseration thread. The deal is done and everyone here has written to Vizio stating their dissatisfaction with the 3D removal. It seems that Vizio is making quality strides; I am sorry 3D couldn't make it as an accepted part of the package.

I saw a 70" frameless 3D Vizio at Costco yesterday that sold for $2000. (Way out of my pocketbook possiblities) It had a beautiful picture. I don't know any of its electronic "trimmings". I am slowly learning more about what the newer Vizios are offering in the other (3D verboten) Vizio thread.

I am a new comer to 3D and have now enjoyed several excellent 3D movies on our 100" hd131xe projector driven screen. Our bedroom 42" Vizio doesn't have 3D.
post #97 of 116
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

The vast majority of news outlets reported the story accurately... from post# 89:

Gotta love these ridiculous headlines like "3D is DEAD!!". I hate it when they take things out of context. No, 3D is NOT dead. Vizio has made a poor decision regarding 3D support this year. I have a feeling they will regret it. Whether they do or not doesn't mean that 3D is dead.
post #98 of 116
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

If that is true then it makes sense because 3D on small TV's do not have the same effect as larger ones. They say you actually need at least a 65" TV to truly appreciate the 3D and see the content how it should look.

How come no mention of 3D on Vizio's website? This is the first report that mentions this. Every other report says no 3D and Vizio themselves said they removed it because consumers didn't want it but they are still concentrating on glasses free for the future.

My 46" Samsung F8000 has amazing 3D with the active system. Yes, it's only 46", because a) that's all I could afford, and b) that's all I have room for in my small apartment. That doesn't mean the 3D isn't amazing. I would have been very sad if Samsung didn't support 3D in their 46" line just because it's a smaller screen size. To many people 46" is pretty large. It's certainly large enough to give a fantastic 3D experience. Sure a larger screen is better for 3D but that doesn't mean a 46" or 50" shouldn't support it.
post #99 of 116
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Originally Posted by imagic View Post

I already double-checked with Vizio. Katzmaier was mistaken.

Here is Vizio's statement:
Basically, no 2D in the 2014 E-series, M-series, P-series or Reference Series. If you want 3D, Vizio will continue to sell the edge-lit 2013 M-series at sizes larger than 50".

The main point is you cannot buy a backlit, full-array, 2014-model Vizio that also supports 3D.

Wow! That was cold news right after good news. Thanks anyway, my hopes are back in check.
post #100 of 116
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

My 46" Samsung F8000 has amazing 3D with the active system. Yes, it's only 46", because a) that's all I could afford, and b) that's all I have room for in my small apartment. That doesn't mean the 3D isn't amazing. I would have been very sad if Samsung didn't support 3D in their 46" line just because it's a smaller screen size. To many people 46" is pretty large. It's certainly large enough to give a fantastic 3D experience. Sure a larger screen is better for 3D but that doesn't mean a 46" or 50" shouldn't support it.
I wasn't just saying that people who have smaller TV's should not have 3D. I was simply stating that I have seen posts from people who know a lot more then me about 3D explain technically why 3D really needs a 65" screen or larger to see the content how it should be. Something to do with distances and such.

I don't think anyone should stop making it, although I personally never use 3D on my TV, but was simply stating I can see why companies might choose to keep 3D to it's larger TV's. It is all irrelevant anyway because it was based on false information.

And a side note, a 46" F8000 ain't to shabby as far as what you can afford. Sure it might not be like the majority of people here who seem like that are ready to buy a Vizio 120" R Series Full Array LED the day it drops, but still the F8000 is more expensive then most other TV's : )
post #101 of 116
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

Wow! That was cold news right after good news. Thanks anyway, my hopes are back in check.

Then there is this...

January 20, 2014
post #102 of 116
Well the no 3D on the Vizio 2014 reference series seals it for me as well. This is the year that I am jumping into the 4K camp and now Vizio has eliminated themselves from the running. Hopefully they will discover the error and in 2015 come back with "because of consumer demand and the technology maturing we have added 3D to our entire lineup".
post #103 of 116
Same here Jaguar. I am very bummed about this IF these sets are a good as the specs indicate they should be.

I have 79 3D Blu-rays that I own and want to enjoy in 3D. I'd be all over the P or R series if it had 3D support.
post #104 of 116
I hope we all note our dissatifaction in writing to Vizio.
And if and when we buy another make we let Vizio know.

Just a thought.
post #105 of 116
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Originally Posted by Elvis Is Alive View Post

Same here Jaguar. I am very bummed about this IF these sets are a good as the specs indicate they should be.

I have 79 3D Blu-rays that I own and want to enjoy in 3D. I'd be all over the P or R series if it had 3D support.

It 's kinda like a bad dream or a slap in the face. Every time I think about the 2014 Vizio sets, I just shake my head just like I did when Derrick Rose went down after a few games this season. I had my hopes up high then came the word of no 3D. I too have a lot of 3D movies and I've been without a main set for a few months now. If they were waiting on glasses free 3D why the heck didn't they keep the 3D tech they have now until glasses free was ready. Instead they have no 4k + 3D. I'd have to say that was pretty dumb.
post #106 of 116
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

It 's kinda like a bad dream or a slap in the face. Every time I think about the 2014 Vizio sets, I just shake my head just like I did when Derrick Rose went down after a few games this season. I had my hopes up high then came the word of no 3D. I too have a lot of 3D movies and I've been without a main set for a few months now. If they were waiting on glasses free 3D why the heck didn't they keep the 3D tech they have now until glasses free was ready. Instead they have no 4k + 3D. I'd have to say that was pretty dumb.

Well said, I feel the same way.
post #107 of 116
I'm no Bulls fan, but I think the loss of Derrick Rose for the year (again) is bigger than the loss of 3-D.
Edited by rogo - 1/22/14 at 11:11pm
post #108 of 116
I don't give rat's patootie about the loss of Derrick Rose (except that I'm sorry he got hurt), but Vizio's decision not to include 3D in the Reference series takes them off my list, too. Of course, I'll be excited to see one as soon as it hits a local store, but I think it's short-sighted of them not to have a single 3D model in the 2014 line-up.
post #109 of 116
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

I hope we all note our dissatifaction in writing to Vizio.
And if and when we buy another make we let Vizio know.

Just a thought.

I sent them a quick note via their "contact us" form letting them know of my dissatisfaction. I was looking forward to purchasing one of their newer models and I wanted 3D included in the next set that I buy. I want passive 3D and that basically leaves me with LG as my only other option.
post #110 of 116
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Originally Posted by Joseph Clark View Post

I don't give rat's patootie about the loss of Derrick Rose (except that I'm sorry he got hurt), but Vizio's decision not to include 3D in the Reference series takes them off my list, too. Of course, I'll be excited to see one as soon as it hits a local store, but I think it's short-sighted of them not to have a single 3D model in the 2014 line-up.

The part where they removed all 3-D support is how they saved all the money from having any. I realize that's not satisfying, but it explains why it wasn't left on 2-3 models.
post #111 of 116
For the record, I registered my opinion about them dropping 3D as well. No use just squawking here.
post #112 of 116
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

For the record, I registered my opinion about them dropping 3D as well. No use just squawking here.

I know. This is just a place to notice that, indeed, there are others who feel the same.
post #113 of 116
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Originally Posted by Cyrano View Post

I know. This is just a place to notice that, indeed, there are others who feel the same.

I didn't mean you Cy, I was just saying that to myself.
post #114 of 116
I just sent email to Vizio as well via "contact us" form letter. I'm sure we will get a form letter response back too.
post #115 of 116
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Originally Posted by jbug View Post

I didn't mean you Cy, I was just saying that to myself.

I know. I really was just completely agreeing with you. smile.gif
post #116 of 116
Glad to hear people are contacting Vizio about their disappointment in their lack of 3D support in 2014 models. It's the only way to get the message out to them. Let them know you're eliminating them from your choices because of it. They need to understand what a poor decision it was to drop 3D support. That's like if Panasonic dropped 3D support from their entire lineup of blu-ray players. I'm really surprised Vizio made this decision.
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