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Color Space for Samsung LCDs, Plasmas, and OLEDs

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I'm not mad at anyone here at AVS or the people who write the user guides for the manufacturers. I am very frustrated with conflicting and opposing discriptions for certain terminologies. Samsung says that Auto matches the color source. You guys say that Auto uses processing to make the picture look normal. Samsung says that Native uses a color space wider than the source. You guys say that Native does not apply processing. On Pioneer's 2011 and 2012 Blu-ray players, while everything was labeled correctly on the players themselves, the manuals got RGB and Full RGB backwards! They said that if blacks rise above the serfice/surface(sp?), use RGB. If colors are showing as uniform black, use Full RGB. It should be if blacks rise above the serfice/surface(sp?), use Full RGB. If colors are showing as uniform black, use RGB. Now ... What's the deal with the Auto and Native Color Space modes on Samsung TVs?
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Recently, Samsung TVs have a "wide" color gamut, so the "Native" color mode shows the picture using the TV's native (wide and incorrect) gamut. Using "Auto" adjusts the color space, through minimal processing probably using a look-up-table, to show the picture with the correct (and not overly saturated/wrong) colors.
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In which mode does the TV show the video without any processing between the source and the display?
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In which mode does the TV show the video without any processing between the source and the display?
Absolutely none.

Every mode the TV is in has some processing done to the source. You can minimize the amount of processing by using Game or PC mode, but there's still some processing being done. It's just the nature of the HDTV beast.
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hi i bought a new samsung plasma 60f5350 . costco version of 60f5300 . and i want to know how many ms it responds. i have a pioneer elite pro-111 and a pnasonic px75u which i game 98 % of my tv viewing time. is the samsung slower or faster? i havnt finished the 150 hrs of ageing this tv otherwise i'd just play the games and see for my self.
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hi i bought a new samsung plasma 60f5350 . costco version of 60f5300 . and i want to know how many ms it responds. i have a pioneer elite pro-111 and a pnasonic px75u which i game 98 % of my tv viewing time. is the samsung slower or faster? i havnt finished the 150 hrs of ageing this tv otherwise i'd just play the games and see for my self.
Isn't there a Samsung PN#F5300 thread in the plasma section? Jus a reider so that this place stays organized.

Best regards,

Big C
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After playing with the various color space modes on my sister's UN32F5000 LCD and my PN43F4500 plasma, I have discovered that Native accents green on my plasma while makin it's slightly lower than the rest of the colors on my sister's LCD. On the UN##F5000, I think Auto is the best setting. However, on the PN##F4500 plasma, Custom gives the best results. You can turn down colors which aren't necessary in making up a particular color. For example, you can set green to 0 while red and blue are at 50 or 100 for majenta. You can set red at 0 while setting green and blue at 50 or 100 for cyan. You can set blue to 0 while setting red and green to 50 or 100 for yellow. For red, green, or blue, you can set everything to 0 except for the respective color. I find that this results in color purity without oversaturation.
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Isn't there a Samsung PN#F5300 thread in the plasma section? Jus a reider so that this place stays organized.

Best regards,

Big C

big c i cannot find it please if you can provide a link that would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

Isn't there a Samsung PN#F5300 thread in the plasma section? Jus a reider so that this place stays organized.

Best regards,

Big C

big c i cannot find it please if you can provide a link that would be greatly appreciated.
I found it. Click here. I'm surprised that the 5300 thread isn't that active! Right now, if you need a budget 1080p plasma between 51" and 60", I couldn't think of a better choice! I wish they made it in a 42" or 43". Oh well, that's why I got the PN43F4500--because I needed something under 50". Anyway, you now have the proper link for the 5300.

Best regards,

Big C
post #10 of 10
thank you very much i have posted on that thread.
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