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PLEASE ADVISE, I have a dilema along the LED/LCD vs. Plasma line. Which is right for my situation.

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Like many out there, I'm completely bummed that Panasonic has decided to exit the plasma world. I'm in the "need" of a TV for the 4 season room my wife insisted we must have. It was a no-brainer that I wanted a Panasonic Plasma, but I obviously had waited too long and and struggling with what would be the next best option. Please be patient while I paint the picture. This room is on the north side of our house in Wisconsin. It is cedar, with windows on the East, North, and West side and the South side of the room is a 6 foot wide opening to our existing house. 2 doors leading outside, 1 to the East, 1 to the West. We have a vaulted ceiling with the ridge running North to South. This made the perfect spot to hang a ~ 50" TV right above the opening to the house. My wife plans on putting a couch on the North wall (Facing the opening to the existing house) and a chair on the West wall. All windows and doors WILL have pleated blinds that can be closed. Because of where we are in, the only direct sunlight into the room will be coming from the East when the sun comes up. Either way, the sun will never shine on the spot above the opening to the house where I thought enough to run power and cable. If I hang the TV on the wall, it will be tilted down a bit because of it being 7 feet in the air. I'm struggling with this because of always hearing that plasmas aren't great in bright rooms. I own 2 other Plasmas, a 65" GT50 and a 50" PX50U (if I recall correctly), and LOVE THOSE TVS, but they are both in lower levels of the house where there aren't many windows and the ones that are present are on the north side, not letting in much light. One of the reasons I love Panasonic Plasmas is because of the 600hz refresh rate. I gag when I watch football on any of my friend's LCD or LED tvs. Even if they are 240hz. OK, I'll try to get to the point. As I see it right now I have 3 options (I know there are probably more):

#1 ---I wait until the spring when Panasonic unveils their new line of LCD/LED tvs and hope that he refresh rate is as good as a plasma.
#2---I wait and see what Samsung does with their Plasmas in the spring and either buy an 2013 model or a 2014 model Samsung.
#3---I go to Costco right now and buy their PN51F5350 for $579.00.

Thoughts in my head right now:
First of all, for the room it is in, do I dare buy a plasma.
Do I really have to worry as I can always close the blinds.
Or, will I regret it either way and should I think LCD/LED.
If I buy and LCD/LED, will I regret it because of the refresh rate.
I don’t need a Smart or 3D TV. We have tablets and laptops.

If you have stuck with me this far, I first of all thank you for your patience and would like to ask what you recommend I do????

Thanks much!
post #2 of 12
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Bumping up. Any thoughts out there?
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Would have been easier to just post a picture because my head is spinning trying to paint a picture of your room in my head.

I really think the whole description was pointless though since you ended with you can close the blinds and get rid of the sun if you need to. That kind of negates needing needing to know where the sun is coming from, at what time it rises and how high the TV will be hung. lol

Now it all depends on how much you want to spend and the quality you are looking for. If you were going to get Panasonic plasma I would think you want more of the top end so I would not look at the Samsung F5350. It is a lower end plasma and offers no filter for light so you would have to close your curtains all the time to really enjoy the TV.

Better plasma's have better filters and can be watched in a lit room. LED's have just as much reflection if not more then a top end plasma. As far as LED's. You kind of answered that question yourself. If you don't like how it looks in your friends house why would you like it in yours? Do they have 240hz native panels or 240hz motion panels? There is a difference. True 240hz panels handle motion better the 120hz panels with 240hz motion rates.

If I was going to wait for a 2014 LED, I wouldn't be looking to get a Panasonic, they were great plasma builders but never proved themselves in the LED market. I would probably be looking at the Vizio M and P series.

Of course the Samsung F8500 would also be a clear winner here.
post #4 of 12
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Well, I had thought about pictures so that is what I did last night. Posting now...








I hope this helps. Also, I'm not sure if I can go the F8500 level. How good is the F5500?
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Originally Posted by bassett72 View Post

I hope this helps. Also, I'm not sure if I can go the F8500 level. How good is the F5500?
The 5500 is not bad as long as you don't have direct sunlight on it. So where would the TV be hung? Guessing at a higher level then the windows so direct sunlight would probably not be hitting it.

I would seriously consider the new Vizio's though depending on how soon you need a TV. Of course after we hear some actual reviews on them.
post #6 of 12
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Too bad the titles of my pictures didn't come through. (This is the first time I've posted pictures).

The TV will go above the opening going into the original dinning area. See the picture with our cat, Max on the floor. You will see the power outlet and Cable Jack.

With the location of the room and where we will hang the TV direct sunlight is impossible.
post #7 of 12
personally, i haven't seen a room i wouldn't prefer a plasma in. but what i like probably won't help you that much.

the only way i wouldn't enjoy a plasma is if there's so much direct sunlight hitting the screen it's like being outside. and in those situations, an LCD would be equally bad
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by fierce_gt View Post

personally, i haven't seen a room i wouldn't prefer a plasma in. but what i like probably won't help you that much.

the only way i wouldn't enjoy a plasma is if there's so much direct sunlight hitting the screen it's like being outside. and in those situations, an LCD would be equally bad
I agree with this.
post #9 of 12

wow.. thats a really bad room to put ANY tv in.. although mounting it where you suggested would help.. however.. if i read it correctly, you're mounting the tv ABOVE the entrance?  So up by the ceiling then?  If so, that is probably the worst possible viewable position i can think of.  You'd have to watch tv practically laying down.

 

If it were me, Id put some light blocking drapes/blinds on all those windows, and mount a retractable projection screen over your wall with the two "quad windows". then mount a projector where you propose the tv to go.  Reel up the screen when you dont want to use it.. you could even hide it behind a valance of some kind, so it wouldn't even be visible when retracted.

post #10 of 12
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Originally Posted by jasondjulian View Post

wow.. thats a really bad room to put ANY tv in.. although mounting it where you suggested would help.. however.. if i read it correctly, you're mounting the tv ABOVE the entrance?  So up by the ceiling then?  If so, that is probably the worst possible viewable position i can think of.  You'd have to watch tv practically laying down.

If it were me, Id put some light blocking drapes/blinds on all those windows, and mount a retractable projection screen over your wall with the two "quad windows". then mount a projector where you propose the tv to go.  Reel up the screen when you dont want to use it.. you could even hide it behind a valance of some kind, so it wouldn't even be visible when retracted.
I could be wrong but I don't think he wants to watch TV in that room only in the dark. With all those windows and natural light why ruin in everyday but the need to make it dark.
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

I could be wrong but I don't think he wants to watch TV in that room only in the dark. With all those windows and natural light why ruin in everyday but the need to make it dark.

well i tell you what i would not watch tv in that room at all but thats because i darken my area where my tv is that being said

you can either cover blinds with black covers get a f8500 or a 5300 forget 5500 the 5300 can be calibrated more then 5500.

or re arrange the tv in other areas or other room
post #12 of 12
now that I've seen the pics, I understand the dilemma. that's a tough room

on one hand, I want to say just buy the cheapest tv you can find, cause there's no way you're going to get a good viewing experience in that room anyway. on the other hand, I'm sure you're not on these forums by accident, and you must appreciate good quality and want as much as you can get.

I'm thinking the f8500 might actually be a poor choice, due to the aggressive filter and limited vertical viewing angle. even with it directed down, you'd end up needing to sit a fairly specific distance from the tv to not be affected by the filter.

I think I'd be asking myself what I could do to the room to make a tv like the st60(if you can find one) or 5series Samsung work better. if you do any critical viewing in there, especially at night, your going to appreciate the effort to make a plasma work.

but wow, I mean, I basically see a room without any walls really. I'd put the tv on a stand in front of the wall with only windows, but I don't know what kind of views you have if it's worth keeping or not.

the closest thing I've seen to that room, was at a friends farm house, they built almost like an enclosed deck, it was almost entirely windows like that, and then barely managed to fit a 40" lcd into a corner. definitely wasn't useful for any serious viewing
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