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post #151 of 596
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Originally Posted by antisuck View Post

Ordered a 3000DSP once Amazon matched the price again, too good a deal to pass up. Now I just need a sub. rolleyes.gif

Thanks all for sharing the debt. cool.gif
Fixed that for you :P
post #152 of 596
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Originally Posted by Swolephile View Post

What is the voltage sensitivity for the Inuke 6000?

I assume you are referring to input sensitivity. 0.75V It can be driven with pretty much any AVR.
post #153 of 596
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Originally Posted by dwaleke View Post

I assume you are referring to input sensitivity. 0.75V It can be driven with pretty much any AVR.

Thanks. I had four Inuke 6000's before and the avr easily drove all of them so that is what I figured it must be. I dont like using signal boosters with my speakers so every amp I purchase to power them needs to have a .75 voltage sensitivity rating for me to use it with a Onkyo receiver.
post #154 of 596
I believe pioneer outputs 1.5v but I'm not sure at what voltage it starts to distort. I never measured it. Even the crown xls with 1.4v shouldn't be a problem for most avrs. And for reference a lot of the emo amps are around 1.25v.
post #155 of 596
Just FYI with my latest round of audyssey the sub trim is at -10.5 db, and even then my onkyo still can drive my inuke 6000dsp to clipping no problem. Unless onkyo is an exception, a typical AVR has plenty of output voltage for inuke without boost.
post #156 of 596
I just picked up two ultimax 15's. Would a 3000 run one on each channel as a 4ohm load fine or should I just pony up for the 6000?
post #157 of 596
Considering the NU3000dsp - Does the fan suck or blow on the Nukes? Instead of a Fan Mod on an AVR I put rubber feet on a 140mm PC fan and placed it on top drawing heat out so the thing stays so cool the built in fan never comes on = no need to swap out the fan and voiding warranty.
The rubber feet are important! They raise the fan 1/4in and prevent cavitation which makes the fan more effective and also reduces noise. Fan is driven by a wall wart plugged into a switched outlet on back of AVR. Can use multiple fans if needed or 200mm - 240mm fan.
post #158 of 596
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Originally Posted by HoG_FATALFIRE View Post

I just picked up two ultimax 15's. Would a 3000 run one on each channel as a 4ohm load fine or should I just pony up for the 6000?

Inuke 3000 puts out about 580 real watts to a four ohm load per channel. The Inuke 6000 puts out about 2100 real watts to a four ohm load per channel. Make your decision from there.

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Originally Posted by Bob7145 View Post

Considering the NU3000dsp - Does the fan suck or blow on the Nukes? Instead of a Fan Mod on an AVR I put rubber feet on a 140mm PC fan and placed it on top drawing heat out so the thing stays so cool the built in fan never comes on = no need to swap out the fan and voiding warranty.
The rubber feet are important! They raise the fan 1/4in and prevent cavitation which makes the fan more effective and also reduces noise. Fan is driven by a wall wart plugged into a switched outlet on back of AVR. Can use multiple fans if needed or 200mm - 240mm fan.

Inuke fans suck from the back and blow to the front.
post #159 of 596
I thought the 3000 was comparable to a ep4000 at about 900 watts into 4 ohms per channel.
post #160 of 596
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Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

I thought the 3000 was comparable to a ep4000 at about 900 watts into 4 ohms per channel.

That is what I remembered as well. Perhaps my memory is fading. eek.gif
post #161 of 596
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Originally Posted by brian6751 View Post

I thought the 3000 was comparable to a ep4000 at about 900 watts into 4 ohms per channel.

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Originally Posted by jpmst3 View Post

That is what I remembered as well. Perhaps my memory is fading. eek.gif

Hello, gents.
The EP4000 and Nuke 3000 are not equal with output at 4 ohms according to bench tests (no, I will not find them biggrin.gif ) and Behringer's own bulletin seems to closely agree (RMS lit straight from Behringer...and no, I cannot remember where this brochure info was...but this RMS info is not in the manual I don't believe):

NU3000:
RMS
Stereo
8 Ohm per channel, stereo 315 W
4 Ohm per channel, stereo 620 W
2 Ohm per channel, stereo 1040 W

Bridged mono
8 Ohm 1250 W
4 Ohm 2075 W


Hope this helps...?
post #162 of 596
I dunno.. I do remember when Chuck threw the EP2500 (now 4000) up on the bench it did really well. I forget just what though. I have a link around here somewhere..

EDIT> http://www.avsforum.com/t/855865/measuring-amplifiers
post #163 of 596
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

Inuke 3000 puts out about 580 real watts to a four ohm load per channel. The Inuke 6000 puts out about 2100 real watts to a four ohm load per channel. Make your decision from there.
Inuke fans suck from the back and blow to the front.
Also, the inuke 3000 will bridge to 3000watts at 4 ohms and the 6000 will not bridge..
Also also, the inuke 3000 is 2 ohm stable (stereo) and the 6000 is not.

If you are only running one sub, Id get the 3000. If 2 get the 6000.
Edited by Anthony_Gomez - 2/8/14 at 7:33am
post #164 of 596
Found that old Behringer PDF with Behringer's RMS ratings on the iNuke series:

Behringer_iNUKE_WebBrochure_RMS_Power_excerpt.pdf 95k .pdf file
post #165 of 596
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Originally Posted by Anthony_Gomez View Post

Also, the inuke 3000 will bridge to 3000watts at 4 ohms and the 6000 will not bridge..
Also also, the inuke 3000 is 2 ohm stable (stereo) and the 6000 is not.

If you are only running one sub, Id get the 3000. If 2 get the 6000.

That's because the 6000 is two 3000s in one case, it is already bridged.
post #166 of 596
That was it, Steve!
post #167 of 596
Lol, just don’t be hatein on the EP ok rolleyes.gifbiggrin.gif
post #168 of 596
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Originally Posted by Anthony_Gomez View Post

Also, the inuke 3000 will bridge to 3000watts at 4 ohms and the 6000 will not bridge..
Also also, the inuke 3000 is 2 ohm stable (stereo) and the 6000 is not.

If you are only running one sub, Id get the 3000. If 2 get the 6000.

Why wouldn't you want to run two subs off the inuke 3000? Could you not run two SI 18s @ 2ohm off each channel? That's 1000 watts rms to each sub according to the pdf posted.
post #169 of 596
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Originally Posted by likelinus View Post

Could you not run two SI 18s @ 2ohm off each channel? That's 1000 watts rms to each sub according to the pdf posted.

Certainly. SI's don't need a lot of power to sing. 600-700 is plenty for them. An Inuke 3000 will work fine in stereo, or bridged. I'm running 2 SI's at the back of the theater off a bridged Inuke 3000.
post #170 of 596
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Originally Posted by blah450 View Post


Hello, gents.
The EP4000 and Nuke 3000 are not equal with output at 4 ohms according to bench tests (no, I will not find them biggrin.gif ) and Behringer's own bulletin seems to closely agree (RMS lit straight from Behringer...and no, I cannot remember where this brochure info was...but this RMS info is not in the manual I don't believe):

NU3000:
RMS
Stereo
8 Ohm per channel, stereo 315 W
4 Ohm per channel, stereo 620 W
2 Ohm per channel, stereo 1040 W

Bridged mono
8 Ohm 1250 W
4 Ohm 2075 W


Hope this helps...?

Yeah. Ok. That's right.
Around 900 or so per channel with a 2 ohm load. That's actually similar to the ep4k.

Thanks for the info
post #171 of 596
Assuming heat management isn't an issue, why is one better than the other?

1600 watt load @ 2 ohms on an amp rated 2000watts RMS at 2 ohms bridged
or
800 watt load @ 4 ohms on an amp rated 1000watts RMS at 4 ohms

(the root question is, is there an fundamental issue with bridging)
post #172 of 596
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Originally Posted by Anthony_Gomez View Post

Assuming heat management isn't an issue, why is one better than the other?

1600 watt load @ 2 ohms on an amp rated 2000watts RMS at 2 ohms bridged
or
800 watt load @ 4 ohms on an amp rated 1000watts RMS at 4 ohms

(the root question is, is there an fundamental issue with bridging)

Sorry about that, Anthony. Thought you were responding to me.
Edited by likelinus - 2/8/14 at 12:28pm
post #173 of 596
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Originally Posted by likelinus View Post

Are you responding to my question? You are comparing apples to oranges. The inuke 3000 will run a 2 ohm load stereo, not bridged. It puts out 1040 watts at 2 ohm and you can run two subs off the inuke. I'm not sure why you were suggesting only running one sub off the inuke?
My post is not directed at you smile.gif
post #174 of 596
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Originally Posted by bass addict View Post

Certainly. SI's don't need a lot of power to sing. 600-700 is plenty for them. An Inuke 3000 will work fine in stereo, or bridged. I'm running 2 SI's at the back of the theater off a bridged Inuke 3000.


Ha, as of today I'm doing this exact same thing. I spent a lot of time this week playing with sub placement and needed another amp since I moved 2 of my subs from the front to the back of the room.
post #175 of 596
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Originally Posted by carp View Post

Ha, as of today I'm doing this exact same thing. I spent a lot of time this week playing with sub placement and needed another amp since I moved 2 of my subs from the front to the back of the room.

Great minds think alike. smile.gif

I almost ordered two more before they disappear forever, but I figured 8 in a 2,200cf room was sufficient (gasp).
post #176 of 596
Good idea on supplying external cooling to pre-empt the internal fan.

Not sure it will work on a pro amp; the fans on my inuke turn on as soon as the power switch is pressed.

Not sure what cavitation issue there might be, but in any case there can't be one, as it only applies to liquid fluids, not gaseous.
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Originally Posted by Bob7145 View Post

Considering the NU3000dsp - Does the fan suck or blow on the Nukes? Instead of a Fan Mod on an AVR I put rubber feet on a 140mm PC fan and placed it on top drawing heat out so the thing stays so cool the built in fan never comes on = no need to swap out the fan and voiding warranty.
The rubber feet are important! They raise the fan 1/4in and prevent cavitation which makes the fan more effective and also reduces noise. Fan is driven by a wall wart plugged into a switched outlet on back of AVR. Can use multiple fans if needed or 200mm - 240mm fan.
post #177 of 596
This seemed like a good use for the Amazon gift card I got for Christmas.
post #178 of 596
Sweetwater is already shipping, I got my call notification today for my dsp 6000 units. They seem to have pretty excellent customer service!
post #179 of 596
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Originally Posted by Archaea View Post

Sweetwater is already shipping, I got my call notification today for my dsp 6000 units. They seem to have pretty excellent customer service!

I didn't get a call, (that I know of) but did get the shipping notification. Looking forward to it!
post #180 of 596
Jonathan, in case you miss my PM, do you think the inuke 6000dsp could power all 6 of my upfront subs? It would be 3 per channel so 3 ohm load, not sure if the inuke can do that? How many watts per sub would that be? thanks
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