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post #61 of 3486
Brian, personally, I would go for 550s for two channel music sans sub. If you have a quality sub(which you do), I would step up to the 750s if the fundage allowed it. The smaller drivers in the 750 will give it an edge in all areas except the first octave or so...

Sean
post #62 of 3486
Since my order of Divas 6.1s, 2.1s, C3 and Hsu VTF-2 did not fit on the truck on 7/2, they were still on the loading dock at ********** when I spoke with Sean P. early the morning of 7/3. Learning about the release of the new Rockets from the statement from Mark S. and what I had read at AVS forum including the impressive comments from Codemarine, bigwally, Tinhere and the other beta testers I was very interested in the Rockets.

Sean P. was able to accommodate my desire to become a ROCKETMAN and I changed my order to package "1", (RS750s,RS250s and the RSC200). I am still getting the VTF-2, a bunch of Onix SP200 speaker wires, Onix Blue interconnects, some Thunder cable as well as a custom made sub cable (due to a long run).
The RS250s are not available so Sean P. gave me a two week estimate on delivery and I will try to learn patience.

Not being experienced in audio gear I have spent months researching at AVS forums, local shops and friends and I want to thank the people at **********, and the posters at this forum for all the help I have received while lurking and learning.

To compliment my system anyone have ideas for speaker stands for the RS250s? I would like to get something similar to the 2.1 stands av123 had months ago.

Gary
post #63 of 3486
Welcome to AVS Forum Gary-

Here's a thought for you to consider, for the price of stands for those RS 250's why not pay + $200 and go for the RS 550's????

You will probably be hard pressed to get stands any cheaper than that ($200).

just a thought,

Congrats, Bruce
post #64 of 3486
Gary, I still have your order here...it's not too late to change it lol :D


Sean
post #65 of 3486
Quote:
Originally posted by Brucer
Welcome to AVS Forum Gary-

Here's a thought for you to consider, for the price of stands for those RS 250's why not pay + $200 and go for the RS 550's????

You will probably be hard pressed to get stands any cheaper than that ($200).

just a thought,

Congrats, Bruce
Actually you can pretty easily find stands for $100 or less. I'm looking at a couple in an audio advisor catalog in fact. Of course that still makes it just a $100 difference so I would leave it to preference between bookshelves vs. floorstanders for rears.
post #66 of 3486
Brucer, thanks for the welcome and the can of worms you have opened with the idea of using the RS550s instead of the RS250s on stands. The space allocated on one side behind my couch has room for the 550s but the space will be limited for the ports to breath and the lower drivers may be below the back of the couch which is 26 inches tall.

Sean, I know folks have stated a minimum of 6 inches behind the rear ports on the Rockets to let them breath. I can manage that I think, but what about the two lower drivers on the 550s, don't these need room to create a soundstage even when being used as surrounds. How high are the two lower drivers? Also maybe I could get a deal getting the 550s as surrounds with the "Package 1"?

Gary
post #67 of 3486
Oops - Sorry - You didn't think your initiation was going to go bye without some form of 'twist' did you?

Obviously, you'll have to take into account your specific layout (in fact you probably already did).

Let's go fishing!

Bruce
post #68 of 3486
The best speakers for the money are speakers you build
yourself if you know how. Why? Because the material cost of
speakers is about 1/8-1/10th their final retail price. All the rest is
design, marketing, middle men, etc.
Buy a $220 program like bassbox and their crossover module,
do some reading and make your own. You will be amazed at
what can be done.
post #69 of 3486
Gary, I'm using 550's as surrounds on cheapie black 8" stands and they're fastened on with generic Blu-Tack/Fun-Tac type crud. I did it to get the tweeter up higher which helps quite a bit since my chair's back comes up to the base of my skull, but it might help with your woofer/couch issue as well. AV123 has been known to work package deals for any combo people wanted with the Diva's so I'm guessing they'll do the same with the Rockets. That's just a guess though, give 'em a call for the straight skinny. Cheap 8" stands.

Addendum: On the stands the bottom edge of the 550 lower woofer is 23" off the floor.




Quote:
Originally posted by Aproxster
Brucer, thanks for the welcome and the can of worms you have opened with the idea of using the RS550s instead of the RS250s on stands. The space allocated on one side behind my couch has room for the 550s but the space will be limited for the ports to breath and the lower drivers may be below the back of the couch which is 26 inches tall.

Sean, I know folks have stated a minimum of 6 inches behind the rear ports on the Rockets to let them breath. I can manage that I think, but what about the two lower drivers on the 550s, don't these need room to create a soundstage even when being used as surrounds. How high are the two lower drivers? Also maybe I could get a deal getting the 550s as surrounds with the "Package 1"?

Gary
post #70 of 3486
Brucer, thanks for the height info on the lower woofer, the suggested stands would work but if I use the 550s I don't want to detract from the "look" they have. WAF is maximized at our house.
post #71 of 3486
BW,
How come you didn't make the isolation platforms for the 550's as well as the 750's? That would have raised them 5", or did you feel they would benefit more by being raised the whole 8"?
post #72 of 3486
Quote:
Originally posted by rt297
BW,
How come you didn't make the isolation platforms for the 550's as well as the 750's? That would have raised them 5", or did you feel they would benefit more by being raised the whole 8"?
Russ, I didn't have enough floorspace for the platforms in the rear and they really needed to go up at least 8" due to the height of my chair back.
post #73 of 3486
BW,
I had four of the isolation platforms in place within 4 hours of the pictures you posted. :cool:
post #74 of 3486
Quote:
Originally posted by Aproxster
Brucer, thanks for the height info on the lower woofer, the suggested stands would work but if I use the 550s I don't want to detract from the "look" they have. WAF is maximized at our house.
Uh? Your welcome (but not on my behalf)- but it was really BigWally that gave you that info, Thanks BW.

Bruce
post #75 of 3486
Bigwally: Thanks for the info. you have email

Brucer: Two quick thoughts, I think the 550s will look better than the 250s on stands and I will save a few bucks using those as surrounds. So thanks for the suggestion.

Gary
post #76 of 3486
Hmm....well it looks like most of the "new speaker" hype and apprehension has mellowed out a bit...so let me take this time to come foward as another Rocket beta tester.

I will post my experience as a beta tester soon and look forward to answering what I can about the Rockets. That being said, I still love my Divas and hope that the Diva thread continues to break all kinds of AVS records.:D
post #77 of 3486
I have just a simple question. I have a quad 6.1, r-3,c-3 package that was ordered prior to the rocket announcement and is now partially delivered. Is there any question as to weather I exchange for rockets or would you keep the divas?

Thanks,

Ben
post #78 of 3486
My question is just as simple: I would love a beta tester to directly compare the Diva 6.1 to the Rocket 750:confused: without being so politically correct:D Lay it on the line and give me the straight poop!

The C3 is very good but obviously no match for the Rocket 200 and the Surrounds will probably be a wash. It also seems the 250 will best the 2.1 from most accounts.

TIA
James Elvick
post #79 of 3486
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We have liftoff of six RS 750s and one RSC 200 heading for Lincoln Nebraska. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Harley
post #80 of 3486
Quote:
Originally posted by magelsen
I have just a simple question. I have a quad 6.1, r-3,c-3 package that was ordered prior to the rocket announcement and is now partially delivered. Is there any question as to weather I exchange for rockets or would you keep the divas?

Thanks,

Ben
What will you be using your setup for primarily, HT or music?...if music what kind?
post #81 of 3486
Quote:
Originally posted by James Elvick
My question is just as simple: I would love a beta tester to directly compare the Diva 6.1 to the Rocket 750:confused: without being so politically correct:D Lay it on the line and give me the straight poop!

The C3 is very good but obviously no match for the Rocket 200 and the Surrounds will probably be a wash. It also seems the 250 will best the 2.1 from most accounts.

TIA
James Elvick
It really depends on what your primary use will be, what type of music you prefer, if you use a sub, and a few other factors. I will address some of this soon, but I cannot say that one is "better" than the other for everything. It really does depend on the listener, however, that being said...the C3 is no comparison to the RSC200, which should be considered a floorstander!:D

The two surrounds are a toss up and it really depends on one's visual preference and how you plan to place them (wall-mounted vs stands). I do not own 2.1s so I cannot compare those.
post #82 of 3486
Harley,

6 x 750s???? I thought about 4 x 750s + a pair of 550s + the 200...but 6 x 750s???? Yeah, baby!!

Joe
Current Divan, hoping to be a Rocketman
post #83 of 3486
I'm am surprised no one has brought up any questions or comments about the patent pending crossover design used in the 750s. This quasi-5 way array design is pretty ingenious.
post #84 of 3486
Harley,

If I may ask, are you selling your Divas? Or keeping them?

Joe
post #85 of 3486
Quote:
I'm am surprised no one has brought up any questions or comments about the patent pending crossover design used in the 750s. This quasi-5 way array design is pretty ingenious.
I've been wondering what that is all about. I figured that sooner or later someone would fill us in on the scoop. I've said all along that the crossover is where the real "art" comes into play in any speaker design. The 3 big ingredients in any design are the crossover, the quality of the components, and the design and solidity of the cabinet. If I had to single out the most important factor, I would say the crossover. Max, what can you tell us about it?
post #86 of 3486
MaxC, I returned my damaged C3 and I was waiting for the next shipment to get a replacement. I am now seriously considering to offer to pay the difference and get the RSC200 to complement my (6.1s and 2.1s). Can you elaborate on the differences between C3 and RSC200 - my primary concern is music.
post #87 of 3486
Quote:
Originally posted by Joe Wong
Harley,

If I may ask, are you selling your Divas? Or keeping them?

Joe
They are for sell.....6.1, 4.1, 2.1, C3

Harley
post #88 of 3486
Hi MaxC,

In regards to the Diva 6.1 and the Rocket 750's, my listening will be split 60/40 music/HT and I listening primarily to jazz, classic rock and some alternative. I have dual SVS subs so low end is no problemo! I agree completely that the Rocket center channel is clearly superior, what is your impressions for music between the 6.1 and the 750's?

James Elvick
post #89 of 3486
Quote:
Originally posted by Bob Sorel


I've been wondering what that is all about. I figured that sooner or later someone would fill us in on the scoop. I've said all along that the crossover is where the real "art" comes into play in any speaker design. The 3 big ingredients in any design are the crossover, the quality of the components, and the design and solidity of the cabinet. If I had to single out the most important factor, I would say the crossover. Max, what can you tell us about it?
Bob,
You have probably read by now that Dick Pierce is the crossover designer for the Rockets. It is my understanding from email correspondence on the Rocket test site that he is willing to come on this board and answer questions at some point as people get curious. It's pretty esoteric stuff at least to me.
post #90 of 3486
Wow, that would be great! I would love to know more of the specifics about what he has done. I read that it is a "progressive" crossover, but I have never run into such a thing. The fact that he uses 4 identical drivers doing 4 different jobs is something I would like to know more about!
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